SugarBaby Meets SugarDaddy.. Could this be YOU?!♡♥

[exoticdanceweardealer]

Originally Posted by woodyboyd

If it is choice between pimps and white knights for hookers, I will take pimps.

You do realize that when you pay for anal from a provider, it means putting in your penis not your nose.

Hahahahah!

Sorry but that is pretty much my take on all White Knights. They don't realize that women actually don't respect them for that crap either, they just end up screwing the guy who has self respect and genuinely respects her after she earns his respect.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by woodyboyd

Good point. Most women would rather hang with their pimp who gets them hooked on drugs, takes all their money, and beats their ass if they don't produce than their grandparents.

Originally Posted by exoticdanceweardealer

Hahahahah!

Sorry but that is pretty much my take on all White Knights. They don't realize that women actually don't respect them for that crap either, they just end up screwing the guy who has self respect and genuinely respects her after she earns his respect.

Wow.

I've been at this for near 40 years, and I've let a lot of ladies get close once they have earned my respect. Out of dozens, never had a single one screw me in anything but the good use of the word.

Your comments say more about your standards, selection criteria, and how you view them than they do about the ladies in general.

[woodyboyd]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Wow.

I've been at this for near 40 years, and I've let a lot of ladies get close once they have earned my respect. Out of dozens, never had a single one screw me in anything but the good use of the word.

Your comments say more about your standards, selection criteria, and how you view them than they do about the ladies in general.

So the women you see don't do drugs and don't have pimps, but the ones I have seen do have pimps and consume illegal drugs? I have no escort reviews on my profile. So, do you have anything to back up your claim besides your own arrogance?

If you look up White Knight in the dictionary, a picture of your face would cover four pages. Jesus.

[Johanna]

Originally Posted by sugar.marie

Hello gentlemen.. Although I loveeeee the hobby, im looking for a more stable relationship!
College and everyday life leave me little time to deal with the cons of a relationship and pros of the hobby.. A sugardaddy/sugarbaby relationship seems to be the in between of the two.. (based on what i know)
So here is kind of what I am looking for. If the following arrangements seem to interest you, check out my profile and give me a shout! (;
Sweet upscale, educated gentleman with an upbeat personality
About 2 visits a week (potentially more)
An understood financial agreement (monthly)
More than just sex!!! Ocassional dinners and outtings
A BOND! I want you to feel comfortable with me, as well as I with you!

I enjoy sports, outdoors activities, shopping, traveling, reading, and more! I am a registered dental assistant as well as attending school full time! Im looking for fun, support, and of course wild crazy sex!! :P
This is just a few of the "qualities" i prefer.. PM me if interested! (;

Marie,

I have had mostly good experiences with sugar daddies. In your search you will likely find a little of everything. I used to be a sugar baby before joining the hobby, and I had an awesome time! I got to go on several trips and enjoy great company along with the finer things in life. The down side is that it is not easy to find just ONE sugar daddy that can fully sponsor your life, and it is probably not a good idea to put all your eggs in one basket either, especially in the early stages. On average, sugar daddies are willing to give you about 400 per visit once a week, and a visit usually entails dinner and/or drinks and private companionship. You will probably have to step down a bit from your current lifestyle. Also, sugar daddies don't always like to date escorts. They mostly go for the girl-next-door, struggling through school type. If you want to be successful, I would advise to choose carefully the details of your life that you share with them. Anyway, there is someone out there for everyone. Good luck!!


-Johanna

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by woodyboyd

So the women you see don't do drugs and don't have pimps, but the ones I have seen do have pimps and consume illegal drugs? I have no escort reviews on my profile. So, do you have anything to back up your claim besides your own arrogance?

If you look up White Knight in the dictionary, a picture of your face would cover four pages. Jesus.

As you say, you have no reviews so I cannot go by that--but I (maybe foolishly) read your post and assumed you meant what you posted. Let us recall what that was:

Originally Posted by woodyboyd

Good point. Most women would rather hang with their pimp who gets them hooked on drugs, takes all their money, and beats their ass if they don't produce than their grandparents.

That IS your post, yes? I didn't "quote you out of context", did I? YOU say in there that most women have pimps. YOU say most are hooked on drugs. Your words. Now you accuse me of having the audacity to believe what you posted? My bad. I assumed it was based upon your personal experiences with them--how else could you make such a broad condemnation of "most women"?

If your post IS based upon your personal experience--that most the ladies YOU HAVE SEEN have pimps and such--then I stand by my statement: your selection process is questionable.

If that is NOT the norm of the ladies you have met, why would you say such things about them? Please explain--I am confused. Either you have slurred a whole lot of women you don't know, or you have some dubious selection criteria.

But while I am logged on, let me clarify your confusion about what I DID post, not what you seem to have rerad:

Originally Posted by Old-T

Wow.

I've been at this for near 40 years, and I've let a lot of ladies get close once they have earned my respect. Out of dozens, never had a single one screw me in anything but the good use of the word.

Your comments say more about your standards, selection criteria, and how you view them than they do about the ladies in general.

Did I say "none of the ladies I have met had pimps. None did drugs"? No, that is not what I said. I said none of the ones I let close (not "no lady I have seen") has done anything bad to me. And no, none of those ladies have pimps--and I can say that with 100% confidence. Quite honestly, if any guy "beat their ass", most of them would shoot the guy where he stands.

If you make yourself feel better by calling me a White Knight--or if that is your way of rationalizing why you feel pimps aren't really so bad--then by all means keep feeling that way. And if you like, please imagine that you have hurt my feelings and I will be sulking in the corner the rest of the day. I do not understand WHY that should make you feel better, but carry on. I truly don't care much what you think of me. I am here to have some interesting discussions and to decide which of the ladies I wish to meet--and the ones I do wish to meet have never turned me away based upon how I voice myself here.

[Gotyour6]

Originally Posted by Johanna

Marie,

On average, sugar daddies are willing to give you about 400 per visit once a week, and a visit usually entails dinner and/or drinks and private companionship.

-Johanna

No, A sugar daddy doesn't pay per visit.

You are mistaken being a sugar baby with being an over priced hooker that goes to dinner with a client.

[Alyssa Marie]

Awesome, I think we have a celebrity on this board! Or... At least we found the person who supplied the definition to websters when they decided to add the word, "sugar daddy."

I always thought a sugar daddy supported a female in whatever way they agreed upon.. And of course it's about money. Who does their job for free? Buddha? Anyone else? Maybe Arnold Schwarzenegger.... But it's not ONLY about money for the girl - just like it's not ONLY about ego and ejaculation for the guy.

[Lacey Amour]

WOW. I'm sure she, like any other girl seeking a SD, would wait until meeting an interested party to sort out the logistics of the arrangement in private. Each persons wants and requirements are subject to negotiating or accepting schedules, financial decisions, and preferences. Those sorts of things (I think but am not sure) are usually done in private.

Why would ANYONE who isn't even interested demand she immediately disclose the details in this thread? Because whoever the fuck you are said so? Are you like the President and CEO of sugar babies and whenever someone wants to be one they have to run it by you first? You must be the all knower of all things to do with SB/SD. Maybe you should put your exclusive Sugar daddy knowledge to good use and teach a seminar on how to be a SB since you seem to know everyfkingthing. I'll remember that in case anyone I know mentions it. Maybe I should just tell them according to you they should just forget about it, continue being "a hooker" because they'll never do better, go do drugs with their pimps and after a while just go on and shoot themselves because none of us will ever be shit.

You hijacked this girls thread and she may never find what she's looking for now. Do you feel better? You seem to of just wanted an opportunity to make someone else feel half as shitty as you probably do on a daily. I find it hard to believe someone as repugnant as you would have anyone give you more than an accidental look, much less willingly spend time with you. Riddle me this: Since you have such a negative outlook on providers AND you claim to already have a SD turned GF why are you even here? Don't you have some animals to abuse and beds to wet?

The next time we have a SD expert analysist in the house would someone please send me a fking memo?

[Johanna]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

No, A sugar daddy doesn't pay per visit.

You are mistaken being a sugar baby with being an over priced hooker that goes to dinner with a client.

Let me clarify something, since I assume (and hope) your experience does not come from looking for and communicating with SD's.

I spent months on SD forums, and there are three types of SD's that I encountered: the "monthly allowance" type, the per visit sponsors, and the time-wasters.

The guys that offer you a monthly allowance will usually razzle-dazzle you with a number bigger than you expected, travel benefits, clothes etc, but it's all talk. After you fulfill your part of the agreement, they will somehow break things off, disappear, etc. No sane guy will give you 3-5K up front because you could do the same disappearing act on him just as easily, and that's something they think you're supposed to understand.

The time wasters are usually out of town and send you endless text messages with flattery and even explicit talk, promise you they will visit soon (or fly you out to visit) and never do. Or they fly you out, do their thing, and you get nothing but a mediocre vacation.

The per-visit guys are the only ones that I had success with. They will agree on a number, come over, share a glass of wine and a few laughs, or go to dinner etc and then have some privacy. No, this is not a hooker thing because you agree to be exclusive or to whatever terms you initially propose. You actually have a friendship and good chemistry and enjoy each other's company. They bring you the amount and stick it in your purse or on your dresser just as help with your bills or whatever, which is what many of them would do with their girlfriends anyway. They also bring you occasional gifts and lingerie, take you on trips, etc. It's a much greater commitment than being a "hooker", and you share so much more than sex and money. Being in a sugar relationship can be a great experience, I hope the nuisance that Gotyour6 has brought to this thread is not successful in discouraging anyone from trying it out. I think it would be a great stepping stone for someone looking to retire soon.

-Johanna

[inspector farquar]

That sure sounds "like a hooker thing."

[woodyboyd]

Originally Posted by Old-T

YOU say in there that most women have pimps. YOU say most are hooked on drugs. Your words. Now you accuse me of having the audacity to believe what you posted?

Expanding the subset of women providers to all women in an attempt to ridicule me, which is basically what you and IF are doing, is insulting to the people you are trying to impress. I can play the same game. If I say that the phrase "most women" was referring to female baboons not human women, my comment would be just as dumb and pointless as yours is.

Originally Posted by Old-T

And no, none of those ladies have pimps--and I can say that with 100% confidence. Quite honestly, if any guy "beat their ass", most of them would shoot the guy where he stands.

If you make yourself feel better by calling me a White Knight.

I don't know how you can not expect to be called a WK with those two comments.

And you exhibit a dangerous mixture of arrogance and naivete in saying that you know why women get beaten and how they would react if beaten.

I am going to take the author's name out of the quote below and put in ?

"In the book Prone to Violence ? has argued that many of the women who took refuge had a personality such that they sought abusive relationships. ?describes such behaviour as akin to addiction. ? speculates that high levels of hormones and neurochemicals associated with pervasive childhood trauma lead to adults who repeatedly engage in violent altercations with intimate partners despite the physical, emotional, legal and financial costs, in unwitting attempts to simulate the emotional impact of traumatic childhood experiences."

And you and IF can feel free to attribute this quote to me. Even though I didn't say it, I agree with it.

Here is another one of ? marks quotes. ? was born in 1939.

"Thirty years later, when feminism exploded onto the scene, I was often mistaken for a supporter of the movement. But I have never been a feminist, because, having experienced my mother's violence, I always knew that women can be as vicious and irresponsible as men.

Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the movement, which proclaimed that all men are potential rapists and batterers, was based on a lie that, if allowed to flourish, would result in the complete destruction of family life."

? refers to Erin Pizzey, a woman who founded the first battered women's shelter.

So you see Old-T, WKs like you are in part responsible for the complete destruction of the family unit. Why do you hate families so much?

[Old-T]

Wow. Do you work at being confused?

Let us go back to basics. You said:

Originally Posted by woodyboyd [IMG]file:///C:\Users\Joseph\AppData\Local\ Temp\msohtmlclip1\01\clip_imag e001.gif[/IMG]
Good point. Most womenwould rather hang with their pimp who gets them hooked on drugs, takes all their money, and beats their ass if they don't produce than their grandparents.

Which is it, “most women”, or “most escorts”? Either way I would call that post out as BS—which is exactly what I did. I read your post as referring to escorts only (since I generally associate pimps with escorts, not women at large), and that is exactly how I replied. If you mean all women in general, then your post is even more absurd.

Be specific. Tell me, where did I misrepresent you? What collection of women WERE you referring to? You are now trying to backtrack and you are stepping all over your feet and other body parts. Admit it, you made a very broad insulting comment about either “most women” or “most women [escorts]” and either way you painted yourself as a chauvinist macho-man.

Quote:
Originally Posted by woodyboyd
Expanding the subset of women providers to all women in an attempt to ridicule me, which is basically what you and IF are doing, is insulting to the people you are trying to impress. I can play the same game. If I say that the phrase "most women" was referring to female baboons not human women, my comment would be just as dumb and pointless as yours is.

I wasn’t trying to ridicule you, but I was calling you post out for ridicule. It deserved it.

And if you really want to change the topic to female baboons I am afraid I can’t help you out much (and your post should probably be on a different site altogether).



Originally Posted by woodyboyd
And you exhibit a dangerous mixture of arrogance and naivete in saying that you know why women get beaten and how they would react if beaten.

Why don’t you go back and try reading my post for content. I was very clearly referring to a small number of ladies I have let close to me and who have earned my trust. Here is the exact quote to refresh your memory:

“I said none of the ones I let close (not "no lady I have seen") has done anything bad to me. And no, none of those ladies have pimps--and I can say that with 100% confidence. Quite honestly, if any guy "beat their ass", most of them would shoot the guy where he stands.”

Are you really dumb enough to try and say that EVERY women who gets physically abused “Asked for it”??? That is just sick. I was not talking about domestic abuse writ large, or generalities about women who have been beaten. Try responding to what I actually said. Or are you implying that I don't really know these ladies? What do you base that on?


As far as your weird quotation mark substitutions, pray tell, what does that have to do with
(a) these specific ladies I was talking about
(b) anyone being a WK
(c) your claim that most escorts have pimps
(d) sugar babies
(e) female baboons

Originally Posted by woodyboyd
So you see Old-T, WKs like you are in part responsible for the complete destruction of the family unit. Why do you hate families so much?

THAT is a non-sequitor that some of the loons in the political forum would be proud of. Somehow in your mind the fact that I called you out on a dumb post means I hate families? Somehow the fact that I have some friends in this community who are strong, intelligent ladies means I hate families? You want to talk “destruction of the family unit”? Then let us start with the internal combustion engine, the Reconstruction South, the Industrial Revolution, the artificial boom in US quality of life because of the destructive nature of WW II in Europe, and many other things.

By the way, typically one earns the WK moniker because they shill for a particular lady. Not because they point out the major logic flaws in some guy’s post.

Admit it, you didn’t think before that first post and you haven’t stopped digging your hole since. It is probably in the best interest of your reputation here to let this argument die. But if your do happen to reply, let’s ask three basic questions:

1. What DID you mean by your comment:
“Good point. Most women would rather hang with their pimp who gets them hooked on drugs, takes all their money, and beats their ass if they don't produce than their grandparents.”

2. Specifically which lady or ladies did I supposedly White Knight for? Especially since I never mentioned any names.

3. Finally, for extra credit, tell me how my having a small handful of strong, intelligent ladies as my friends is somehow because I hate families. Or are those friendships the cause of family units decomposing--I can't quite follow.

[inspector farquar]

Originally Posted by woodyboyd

People say that sex for money is at the core at SD-SB relationships, but it really isn't. It's enjoying the other's company. The money for sex part is secondary to just being with that person.

Originally Posted by inspector farquar

Of course. I mean, who doesn't love hanging out with their grandparents?

Originally Posted by woodyboyd

Good point. Most women would rather hang with their pimp who gets them hooked on drugs, takes all their money, and beats their ass if they don't produce than their grandparents.

Originally Posted by inspector farquar

You, sir, might consider enlarging your social circle.

Nice deflection though.

Originally Posted by woodyboyd

If it is choice between pimps and white knights for hookers, I will take pimps.

You do realize that when you pay for anal from a provider, it means putting in your penis not your nose.

It would seem, Old-T, I'm the one who got him started. But when I pointed out in 8 ("You, sir, might consider enlarging your social circle.") and it flew over his head, I moved on.

You have spent many hundreds of words more than I but have gotten similar result. You might consider the idea that no amount of words can reach some.

[woodyboyd]

Originally Posted by Old-T

Are you really dumb enough to try and say that EVERY women who gets physically abused “Asked for it”??? That is just sick.

LOL. Yes, that is what I said not an expert on a battered women. As far as reputations go, you have cemented yours as a boring, predictable, mendacious WK.

[woodyboyd]

Originally Posted by inspector farquar

You, sir, might consider enlarging your social circle.") and it flew over his head, I moved on.
You have spent many hundreds of words more than I but have gotten similar result. You might consider the idea that no amount of words can reach some.

Flew over my head? LOL. Name one woman in my social circle. Oh, wait, sorry, that is a fact, and the world you two winners live in, facts are irrelevant. How is the weather in Fantasyland?