If a Provider Says shes Low Volume then maybe...

[Lia88]

I think alot of the errors of statements About a provider are based on Comparisons to Civie girls . You can not compare the two. That's like comparing McDonald's to home cooked meals.
One's a Business and One is Not.
One makes a Profit one Does not.
Expectations and Rewards are different.
One is looking for the Satifaction of their clients as well as Monetary profit. And one is just looking for satisfaction.

When you separate the two then you start making accurate assessments.

Escorts should be in comparison to SW's.

Not Civie girls. That's a unrealistic Comparison. Of course a Civie girl will be low Volume in Comparison.


@Gentlemantoo same To you. I actually enjoy our Debates lol

[Lia88]

Originally Posted by Krystal_RoseBBW

I appreciate the fact that you are attempting to educate yourself on something there is NO POSSIBLE WAY you could TRULY understand by reading "studies" on the subject.

But just as I will NEVER understand what it is to be say....An African American Male (or A.A. Woman for that matter).....no matter how much I read and learn about it.

There is not a statistic or study in the world that is going to tell ME how I should feel.

I don't need proof of MY truth. I know ME. I love me. I do what makes me happy and I avoid things that will bring me no joy. And I couldn't care less if you believe me LOL

You can say I am in "denial" all you want. I'm sure most people are in denial, in some way, about themselves. But I am not going to assume that they are because they have a different opinion or belief than mine.

Attempting to speak for an individual person and how they feel and think based on some anonymous group, that did not include that specific person,is just ignorant. Yes, I am saying those "studies" are IGNORANT!!

*Back on Topic*

When I see a provider say that she is "Low Volume" I assume she has a RW job, or a second income of some sort, or she only sees Gentlemen for extended sessions for a larger sum. Since I will gain nor lose anything from what she does with her life/time, it does not concern me.

Words like high and low are RELATIVE terms. What is high to one person may seem low to others.

It's a matter of OPINION, not FACT. Period.

Exactly! Can we make this the best comment of 2018

[Grace Preston]

Lol... Low Volume, High Volume-- what difference does it make as long as when she is in the room with you-- she acts like YOU are the only one??

There are some days that I will decline most appointments because I know I don't have more than 1 session in me. There are other days that I will happily fuck like a rabbit because I know I have it in me. Knowledge of what I feel up for on any particular day is something you learn with time... new girls often bite off more than they can chew when they are deep in the "Flavor of the Month" syndrome and it leads to burnout.

Do I agree that lots of ladies in this industry have some form of PTSD or Anxiety disorder? Absolutely. But not all ladies. Some are just built for this mentally/emotionally more than others. My saving grace is that I've always been able to approach it from a male point of view and I am generally swayed more by logic and reason than emotion. But I've seen girls melt down as well, so I know that-- for some-- this path is not a good path.

I think people need to stop worrying about what we think of each other as a group and just worry about taking care of the gentlemen that come to see us. These topics are feeling more like someone is writing a Sociology Thesis....

[Jmtvms2016]

Finally!! An interesting topic with actual intellectual debate. Good hearing from both sides on this subject. I dated a provider and, although I have a much better understanding of the topic now, I'm still on the fence about the shame and denial aspect. Only the provider could truly know that. Whether she admits it or not, is the question. Some probably are and some aren't I would guess $$$$$ in hand can put a whole lot of shame to shame if you ask me.

[Randall Creed]

I think she said that three a day WOULD be what she considered 'busy', not that she actually sees three guys every day.

I don't care if a provider is high or low volume, just give me the impression that I'm your first visit of the day. This would mean a fresh smelling body (no lingering after-breath on your tits from the previous perv mouth), no used condoms in the trash, and have a fresh cloth available. Smelling like soap is really sexy, btw.

If a lady is a bit on the high volume side, I hope she's doing all the right things to get out of the business, or at least getting to a low volume level. If she is high volume and never has any money or is starving, then she's not doing something right.

[Guest111819]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Lol... Low Volume, High Volume-- what difference does it make as long as when she is in the room with you-- she acts like YOU are the only one??

There are some days that I will decline most appointments because I know I don't have more than 1 session in me. There are other days that I will happily fuck like a rabbit because I know I have it in me. Knowledge of what I feel up for on any particular day is something you learn with time... new girls often bite off more than they can chew when they are deep in the "Flavor of the Month" syndrome and it leads to burnout.

Do I agree that lots of ladies in this industry have some form of PTSD or Anxiety disorder? Absolutely. But not all ladies. Some are just built for this mentally/emotionally more than others. My saving grace is that I've always been able to approach it from a male point of view and I am generally swayed more by logic and reason than emotion. But I've seen girls melt down as well, so I know that-- for some-- this path is not a good path.

I think people need to stop worrying about what we think of each other as a group and just worry about taking care of the gentlemen that come to see us. These topics are feeling more like someone is writing a Sociology Thesis....

Nope....THIS is the best comment of 2018 LOL


As far as any kind of "shame"....

I don't feel any shame. I am completely honest with my friends and family. My family has known what I do from day one.
Hell, my Mother was present (and partially gave me the idea) when I made the decision to give this life a try.
I was always quite promiscuous (a slut) and I still enjoy variety of sexual partners. I just make a living with it now (a whore).

[Jmtvms2016]

God bless you Krystal!!! I like the way you think!

[Lia88]

The reason for This Thread is based solely on Observations of Comments, First hand Interactions and Labels I have Seen.
I think the Label is Somewhat lost in translation with everyones idea of what is or isn't considered this or that. At the end of the Day when it's all said and concluded it's nothing more than a persons opinion of it. And there's no changing that, Which shouldn't be, based on Someone else's opinion. My reasons were based on Observations. And the fact that the term low volume is deemed better than high volume. Which in fact is not True ,In my opinion. Remember these are Opinions and everyone is entitled to that Right of a Opinion. But to be Naive to Certain things Lets get this point clear. Yes I advertise Low volume but...
Low volume is not better than high volume. Like Ms Grace preston stated it's all in how you carry yourself. Some days one is Enough for me and I can not do more until possibly after a longer stretch of time has passed. Other days I'm in to Win it lol.

Nice talk Guys!! I'm Glad we can all express ourselves without degradation or name calling

[Gucci]

I don’t bash a provider for being “ high volume “ there are a LOT of women here that see between eight and twelve guys a day seven days a week. My only gripe is what the heck do they do with their money because most of them work their ass off and still don’t have shit after two years of non stop action everyday. I like to set an appointment as early as the provider will wake up, that way she doesn’t smell like the old spice from the guy before me lol.

[ValentinaAmaro]

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

No women do not cry themselves to sleep at night due to shame of being a provider. Denial, she typically pushes it deep down internally and ignored it. A study I read stated of 193 prostitutes or escorts that work the online boards. 90% of them over a short period of time develop some type of mental disorder such as PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder) same thing as soldiers after combat. They get PTSD because it is traumatic for a woman to allow scumbag to molest her. Just as soldiers in combat get used to the constant and continuing trauma so do providers. Research a little and read. Shame is real whether you deal with it or not.

As a believer in God, does he approve of your being an escort?

What multiple studies are you quoting that you averaged for this post? Everything I am reading puts those numbers in the 60%-70% range and do not remove the outliers such as victims of human trafficking or girls with pimps.
In fact, the actual study I'm assuming your quoting (because of the sample size of females you stated) which was written in psychology today - states that only girls who are working out of brothels and studios who expierience high volumes of violence, abuse, and no social support fit that 90% you are talking about.


In the group that worked comfortably out of high end hotels (i.e. True escorts) their mental health was on par with a regular civilian lady. In fact the levels of anxiety and PTSD were significantly lower than a non working lady.

Here is the article he is referencing ladies if you care to read it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psy...problems%3famp

... it is so very important to not skim through facts before you start pushing your ideas onto other people.

[Brightwing]

I remember reading a survey that said the average American has been 2 to 15 sex partners in their life time depending on the state.

So we're all high volume sluts here. I wouldn't have it any other way .

[papadee]

Originally Posted by ValentinaAmaro

What multiple studies are you quoting that you averaged for this post? Everything I am reading puts those numbers in the 60%-70% range and do not remove the outliers such as victims of human trafficking or girls with pimps.
In fact, the actual study I'm assuming your quoting (because of the sample size of females you stated) which was written in psychology today - states that only girls who are working out of brothels and studios who expierience high volumes of violence, abuse, and no social support fit that 90% you are talking about.


In the group that worked comfortably out of high end hotels (i.e. True escorts) their mental health was on par with a regular civilian lady. In fact the levels of anxiety and PTSD were significantly lower than a non working lady.

Here is the article he is referencing ladies if you care to read it: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psy...problems%3famp

... it is so very important to not skim through facts before you start pushing your ideas onto other people.

Thank you for quoting his possible source. Using the "I read a study somewhere" argument without having the source is lazy & disingenuous debating.

[Ballistixz]

DONT EVER claim "this study shows this and this study says that so it must be true and you must believe me" without posting the source to said studies... people that do this please feel free to ignore them.

this is obvious to some but not to all, so im just throwing it out there for future reference. Annoying when people do that. Trying to look smart without actually being smart.

[gentlemantoo]

Yes, that is the article. But you misquoted it. Maybe I did too, so I will write here word for word and give my interpretation of the words.

"One end of the spectrum were the women in cluster 4. These were virtually all non-European, working at of studios or brothels, low levels of social support, high levels of pressure, violence and rape as part of their work (though very little of it outside of the work contact). Their mental health was in poor shape: 90 percent had at least one psychiatric issue."

Non-European- United States is non European. Brothels or studios, not this place but most here have an incall but do not have a boss, so that can effect outcome. Low level of social support, most certainly defines American culture, name a support program for prostitutes, there are no, so no social support. High levels of pressure, lots of pressure to earn cash in this country! Violence and rape as part of their work, most providers run into at least violence or robbery or some sort of scumbag that is intimating violence. I would say this study describes wen here pretty good, but not a brothels so there is that.

On the other end of the spectrum were Europeans, where btw prostitution mostly legal more healthy mentally. Americans compare on depression of hookers in Europe, but anxiety and PTSD high in U.S. providers.

But yes I read, thanks for finding it. I am not good and links. I will not post them but at least you can see I do not make up reading this crap, but I did misquote a little not 90%have PTSD 90% have at least one psychiatric issue. Thanks for helping me fix it.

[CurvyKatie]

You are cherry picking quotes to support your own version of reality in your failed efforts to appear superior to the ladies in this forum.

Why not choose this quote from the same article???

"On the other end on the spectrum were the women in Cluster 3 (n = 42). They were of mixed European origin, worked mostly in studios or as escorts, experienced high levels of social support, and relatively little violence, pressure or rape outside of work, and little to none within sex work. Their mental health was quite admirable. They were very similar to the general U.S. female population in prevalence of depression or any psychiatric diagnosis; and were actually in much better shape when it came to anxiety or PTSD: 2 percent and 0 percent reported past-year anxiety and PTSD, respectively, compared to 23 percent and 4 percent of US women in general."



And also...

Originally Posted by gentlemantoo

As a believer in God, does he approve of your being an escort?