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09-09-2023, 10:09 PM
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No you did not say that. I did.
But ima sure that if you could find a bank at the same time period that still around today, the interest would make the gold investment look less than chump change.
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What do you think the interest would be?
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09-09-2023, 10:19 PM
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Good advice. I would also add propane, generator, solar battery, gold, silver, 2 way radios, sat phone, camp stove, garden seeds, rain barrel, medical supplies, barter items and anything else that may be in short supply in a collapse. Being prepped gives me peace of mind. I wouldn't trade that for anything. The banks are getting more desperate every day. You just won't hear about it on the corporate, deep state, news media. The independent media is covering the banking crisis. I feel sorry for folks that still watch the propaganda news ministry. Even after the "safe and effective" covid jab campaign, people still trust these clowns. Unbelievable.
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09-09-2023, 10:37 PM
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Q. How do you know what’s being said on the corporate, deep state, news media if you don’t watch it or listen to it?
A. You don’t, because it doesn’t fit your tin foil hat agenda?
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09-09-2023, 11:01 PM
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Q. How do you know what’s being said on the corporate, deep state, news media if you don’t watch it or listen to it?
A. You don’t, because it doesn’t fit your tin foil hat agenda?
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You don't watch alternative media because it doesn't fit your woke agenda that you get from the Main Stream Media.
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09-09-2023, 11:58 PM
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^^^ Another miss, Levi because trust me that guy is not woke. Unlike you, I know from actually being around woke motherfuckers in person and not by defining them from watching clown videos on bitchchute because they have different views from me on a whore board.
Anyway, this thread is comical. I've admitted that I work in the financial service industry. I've had many banks as clients and still do. You have a better chance of getting hit by lightning every day of the year than you have of a financial institution like a Wells Fargo, BofA or Fidelity (just to name a few) of losing your damn money.
Do any of you the sky is falling know it all folks even know what bank regulations are for a public company in that industry? Of course not. I do though which is why this troll thread is laughable to me.
My unsolicited advice is that some of you folks should really stop watching stupid ass videos on the internet.
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09-10-2023, 05:05 AM
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Lucas:
Thank you for that affirmation of the banking business.
Now please, speak to the possibility of the US going to a crypto dollar and recalling or cancelling hard currency. Is that a real thing or just more scare talk?
I don't watch crazy YT vids but sometimes the radio folks gat a little out there.
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09-10-2023, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Lucas McCain
^^^ Another miss, Levi because trust me that guy is not woke. Unlike you, I know from actually being around woke motherfuckers in person and not by defining them from watching clown videos on bitchchute because they have different views from me on a whore board.
Anyway, this thread is comical. I've admitted that I work in the financial service industry. I've had many banks as clients and still do. You have a better chance of getting hit by lightning every day of the year than you have of a financial institution like a Wells Fargo, BofA or Fidelity (just to name a few) of losing your damn money.
Do any of you the sky is falling know it all folks even know what bank regulations are for a public company in that industry? Of course not. I do though which is why this troll thread is laughable to me.
My unsolicited advice is that some of you folks should really stop watching stupid ass videos on the internet. ![Smile](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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I don't need to hear any of your crap today.
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09-10-2023, 08:00 AM
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Now please, speak to the possibility of the US going to a crypto dollar and recalling or cancelling hard currency. Is that a real thing or just more scare talk?
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The dollar is obviously weaker globally now, but trust me, we are a long way away from just crypto. It may get there one day, but I won't be alive to see it. Don't believe me? Look at the share prices of Bitcoin and Ethereum and how they are low in comparison to where they once were.
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I don't need to hear any of your crap today.
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Well, that's not very nice. I thought we were internet besties... and technically, you didn't "hear" anything from me. You intentionally read my post and even quoted it and you didn't have to, so I assume you obviously want to "hear" my "crap" today... or perhaps bitchute told you that I remotely give a flying fuck about what "crap" I think you want to "hear" today. LOL
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09-10-2023, 09:37 AM
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The key to food...
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I don't think so. Food can be packaged in hermetically sealed pouches for longer shelf life and it's cheaper and less toxic.
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Peanut butter. In a pinch some sealed containers of PB and drinkable water will be enough to keep someone going for a long while.
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09-10-2023, 09:56 AM
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Peanut butter. In a pinch some sealed containers of PB and drinkable water will be enough to keep someone going for a long while.
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hahaha, ok
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09-20-2023, 10:29 AM
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"Doom Porn" -- Watch out, it sells like hotcakes!
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Anyone else listen to Mannarino?
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No. This guy is one of many purveyors of what many of us refer to as "doom porn" -- the sort of stuff that's peddled to those who seem to believe that there's a conspiracy behind every tree and a financial collapse just around the corner at any given time. To be sure, there are plenty of elements of instability embedded in our (and the world's) financial and monetary systems. But people like this don't understand them, or don't care, since their primary goal is to sell podcasts and videos touting the wonderfulness of cryptocurrencies and other alternative assets.
Roundup of a few more comments and replies to posts of others curious about this and related issues:
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I keep enough money in the bank to pay bills and that's all. Stacking gold and silver coins is the best strategy to reduce risk from failing banks and rising inflation. If you believe the federal government, deep state media, and the corporations have your best interest, YOU are the brain dead conspiracy theorist. Have fun wiping your ass with those worthless dollars.
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In my view, the only risk of bank failures in the near-to-intermediate future arises from the likelihood of CRE mortgage defaults over the next 12-24 months, and is almost exclusively limited to smaller regional banks. In particular, owners of sub-class A office buildings financed with lower interest rate loans scheduled to reset within the next year or two are in serious trouble. One friend of mine with a great deal more detailed understanding of this issue estimates that this could be a $250 billion problem over the next three years. Still, the risks are not exactly unknown, and the biggest banks (especially JP Morgan Chase, but also B of A and a few others) stand to pick up some assets "on the cheap" and become even stronger than they are now.
Inflation? It began spiking rather alarmingly a couple of years ago, of course -- but has been on the wane for some time now, and looks likely to remain quiescent.
So, the risk inherent in holding balances in any of the larger banks today is nil. Still, if that concerns you, you can always park your liquid funds in T-bills while awaiting a more attractively priced market for whatever strikes your investment fancies. The 3-month through 12-month portion of the UST yield curve now pays close to 5.5% (which is actually about 3.25% after-tax, since the income tax rate on interest is 40.8%). Nothing to get all giddy about, obviously, but a lot better than what you'd get for your liquid funds a couple of years ago.
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Is there any prudence in keeping some fraction of my net worth in something tangible such as Art or precious metals?
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Art? A hard "no," in my view. Gold or other precious metals? I like to own a little gold, and have for many years -- and see it as a store of value. However, though it's not a "precious metal," I like copper even more, and have owned some Southern Copper Corporation shares for at least 15 years, adding a bit more here and there over the years. It pays a pretty good dividend as well as owning substantial reserves.
A number of promoters of LPs and SPACs have been touting art during the past couple of years. Generally, the pitch runs something like this: Wealthy art collectors have enjoyed huge gains recently in the market value of fine art. The trouble with this is that people suffer from "extrapolation bias." In other words, since this stuff has had quite a run-up in market value, it will continue to do so. The problem is that a lot of people are likely to buy in at or near a market peak and then lose money or at the very least have trouble selling out of an illiquid investment vehicle.
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Now please, speak to the possibility of the US going to a crypto dollar and recalling or cancelling hard currency. Is that a real thing or just more scare talk?
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More scare talk. Part and parcel of the "doom porn" purveyance.
As I said earlier, doom porn sells!
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09-20-2023, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas Contrarian
No. This guy is one of many purveyors of what many of us refer to as "doom porn" -- the sort of stuff that's peddled to those who seem to believe that there's a conspiracy behind every tree and a financial collapse just around the corner at any given time. To be sure, there are plenty of elements of instability embedded in our (and the world's) financial and monetary systems. But people like this don't understand them, or don't care, since their primary goal is to sell podcasts and videos touting the wonderfulness of cryptocurrencies and other alternative assets.
Roundup of a few more comments and replies to posts of others curious about this and related issues:
In my view, the only risk of bank failures in the near-to-intermediate future arises from the likelihood of CRE mortgage defaults over the next 12-24 months, and is almost exclusively limited to smaller regional banks. In particular, owners of sub-class A office buildings financed with lower interest rate loans scheduled to reset within the next year or two are in serious trouble. One friend of mine with a great deal more detailed understanding of this issue estimates that this could be a $250 billion problem over the next three years. Still, the risks are not exactly unknown, and the biggest banks (especially JP Morgan Chase, but also B of A and a few others) stand to pick up some assets "on the cheap" and become even stronger than they are now.
Inflation? It began spiking rather alarmingly a couple of years ago, of course -- but has been on the wane for some time now, and looks likely to remain quiescent.
So, the risk inherent in holding balances in any of the larger banks today is nil. Still, if that concerns you, you can always park your liquid funds in T-bills while awaiting a more attractively priced market for whatever strikes your investment fancies. The 3-month through 12-month portion of the UST yield curve now pays close to 5.5% (which is actually about 3.25% after-tax, since the income tax rate on interest is 40.8%). Nothing to get all giddy about, obviously, but a lot better than what you'd get for your liquid funds a couple of years ago.
Art? A hard "no," in my view. Gold or other precious metals? I like to own a little gold, and have for many years -- and see it as a store of value. However, though it's not a "precious metal," I like copper even more, and have owned some Southern Copper Corporation shares for at least 15 years, adding a bit more here and there over the years. It pays a pretty good dividend as well as owning substantial reserves.
A number of promoters of LPs and SPACs have been touting art during the past couple of years. Generally, the pitch runs something like this: Wealthy art collectors have enjoyed huge gains recently in the market value of fine art. The trouble with this is that people suffer from "extrapolation bias." In other words, since this stuff has had quite a run-up in market value, it will continue to do so. The problem is that a lot of people are likely to buy in at or near a market peak and then lose money or at the very least have trouble selling out of an illiquid investment vehicle.
More scare talk. Part and parcel of the "doom porn" purveyance.
As I said earlier, doom porn sells!
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Good post as always. I'll chime in. If a person is paranoid about banks, Treasury Direct is a great way to buy treasury instruments. You can realize interest rates in excess of 5% with an account held directly with the government:
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/
Unless the government goes belly up, your funds should be safe.
The problem with art is that commissions and fees to buy and sell typically total around 20%. It's hard to make money when the brokers are getting that kind of juice.
If you want to make money in art or crypto, the best way is to get in the ground floor.
For example, own a gallery or an auction house. Become Hunter Biden's agent.
A couple of acquaintances have made millions, working for crypto companies while being paid in coin. It must be a high margin business, like printing counterfeit money, only it's semi-legal! Ponzi schemes are great ways to make money, as long as you don't go to jail!
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09-23-2023, 01:37 PM
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Thought blacks at first
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10-04-2023, 06:11 PM
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What do you think the interest would be?
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Doesn't matter what *I* think.
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