OK , no collusion, veto not overridden!

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by bambino

Obama’s approval rating was a bit lower than Trumps at this time.. By your logic, Trump winning is more probable and very much possible.

According to FiveThirtyEight, Obama's approval rating was almost 6 points above Trump's at this point in time in their presidencies. Even Jimmy Carter had a higher approval rating than Trump.

To me, the most significant point to be made about the approval ratings is that at no time has Trump's overall approval rating exceeded 50%. That has never happened in the history of approval ratings. One article I read stated that Trump's approval rating band (highest to lowest rating) is the narrowest in history. No matter what he does, positive or negative, his approval rating barely moves. I'm sure we will interpret that fact differently as to the reasons.


https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com...roval-ratings/

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

You're Serious?

If you can provide any solid proof other than opinion that statements made by the media have significantly impacted the voting decisions of voters, please post it.

[gfejunkie]

The constant perpetuation of a false narrative will always keep someone's poll numbers lower than what they should be. Hopefully we're past that now.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_mar28

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I can't argue against that statement, but that does not prove that the media has any meaningful impact on voters decisions as to whom to vote for.

actually you're wrong. You obviously didn't read Sherryl Attinkson's interview regarding the state of the media and Ted Koppel recently confirmed her story.



that is a powerful media echo chamber.


if they are all saying the same-thing, it must be true. Fox is the outlier on this.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by gfejunkie

The constant perpetuation of a false narrative will always keep someone's poll numbers lower than what they should be. Hopefully we're past that now.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...ez_track_mar28

Again, Rasmussen is deemed to be the most pro-Republican polling firm out there. They got the 2016 presidential election right because of that. They were the worst polling firm out of about 20 in predicting the 2018 mid-term elections. They actually had the House vote being positive for Republicans when in fact Democrats won by 8.6 million votes.

My suggestion is to use FiveThirtyEight or RealClearPolitics which take into account ALL polls.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

actually you're wrong. You obviously didn't read Sherryl Attinkson's interview regarding the state of the media and Ted Koppel recently confirmed her story.

that is a powerful media echo chamber.

if they are all saying the same-thing, it must be true. Fox is the outlier on this.

I searched on Sharyl Atkinson and found no statements by her on the impact of television/newspapers on voters. I then searched for a link between Ted Koppel and Sharyl Atkinson and found nothing.

Let me try to further explain the reasons behind my opinion.

The fact is that Trump's approval rating has varied little from his first day in office to today. To me that means that the majority of the people have their minds already made up on Trump and his performance while in office. If he does something deemed positive, there is little to no upward movement in his approval rating. If he does something deemed negative, there is little to no downward movement in his approval rating.

So if rather major policy decisions made by Trump have little to no impact on voter preferences, I doubt a station like CNN, which is not heavily watched, would have an impact on voter preferences. Just my opinion.

[bamscram]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

CNN, MSNBC/NBC, CBS & ABC are all anti-trump.

Your opinion?

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I searched on Sharyl Atkinson and found no statements by her on the impact of television/newspapers on voters. I then searched for a link between Ted Koppel and Sharyl Atkinson and found nothing.

Let me try to further explain the reasons behind my opinion.

it was a radio interview. the link was posted here in one of the threads.



Koppel was interviewed by some one I forget who.



I will have to find the link.

[dilbert firestorm]

speedy your google fu sucks!!!

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

it was a radio interview. the link was posted here in one of the threads.

Koppel was interviewed by some one I forget who.

I will have to find the link.

Ted Koppel
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...p-as-the-enemy

https://www.eacourier.com/opinion/ch...6e0e2420b.html

Repeating portions of his previous statement, Koppel continued, “We are not talking about the Washington Post of 50 years ago. We’re talking about organizations that I believe, in fact, decided as organizations that Donald J. Trump is bad for the United States.”

NYT claiming Koppel is wrong; they were fair to Trump.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dean-b...-fair-to-trump

my bad, got the name wrong. it was Lara Logan. not Sharyl Atkinson.

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...ighlight=radio

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...agandist-press

Rush Limbaugh's comment on Lara.
https://news.iheart.com/featured/rus...liberal-media/

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

I have a difficult time remembering why I went into a room in my house and you expect me to remember the specifics of a race 30 years ago?

....

That's why BigTex kept wine in every room.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

That's why BigTex kept wine in every room.

LMAO!!

he's sousing down the wine about now. My UK Kats took his Coogs out earlier tonight in the Big Dance ..


Final

• 
  (3) Houston
  Cougars
  
  58
• 
  (2) Kentucky
  Wildcats
  
  62

Kentucky team breakdown


GO BIG BLUE!


BAHHAAAHAAAAA!!

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

speedy your google fu sucks!!!



Ted Koppel
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/o...p-as-the-enemy

https://www.eacourier.com/opinion/ch...6e0e2420b.html

Repeating portions of his previous statement, Koppel continued, “We are not talking about the Washington Post of 50 years ago. We’re talking about organizations that I believe, in fact, decided as organizations that Donald J. Trump is bad for the United States.”

NYT claiming Koppel is wrong; they were fair to Trump.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dean-b...-fair-to-trump

my bad, got the name wrong. it was Lara Logan. not Sharyl Atkinson.

https://www.eccie.net/showthread.php...ighlight=radio

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...agandist-press

Rush Limbaugh's comment on Lara.
https://news.iheart.com/featured/rus...liberal-media/

Thanks for the clarification. No wonder I couldn't find anything on Sharyl Atkinson, or a link between Sharyl Atkinson and Ted Koppel.

But getting back to my point. At no time have I ever said the newspapers and other news sources were not liberal-biased. What I am questioning is the impact of that news-bias on voters. I will not vote for Trump. I do not like his character which is not based on lies perpetuated by the media. It is him. Calling Schiff a "pencil neck" is that latest example. Trump supporters love him for the same reasons I dislike him. So be it.

Secondly, I look at his lack of accomplishments as POTUS. Failure on health care. Failure, so far, on immigration. Failure on trade agreements that will be "better" for the U.S. Tax reform which did little for the middle class which was supposed to be the main beneficiary of the plan.

My belief is most voters do what I do -- look at Trump as POTUS and evaluate him through their own eyes, independent of the media. Some agree with me and some do not. I respect the opinions of others even if they differ with my opinion.

Again if you or anyone else has solid proof that MSM has negatively impacted the opinions of voters towards Trump I'd like to see it.

[SpeedRacerXXX]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

That's why BigTex kept wine in every room.

If I drank wine I'd try that. Maybe some rum.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

My belief is most voters do what I do -- look at Trump as POTUS and evaluate him through their own eyes, independent of the media. Some agree with me and some do not.

So, you believe it was your opinion FIRST AND the "VOTERS" after carefully and thoughtfully evaluating YOUR OPINION ...


... "AGREE" with YOU?



You have interesting company .... MadCow thinks like that too!

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Before everyone gets too carried away with Trump's "Victory", let's examine some things.

1. Prior to the Mueller report coming out, a poll conducted prior to last November's election put the Russia probe was 12th in importance to voters.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/244367/...migration.aspx

2. In 2 polls conducted AFTER the Mueller report came out, Trump's approval rating has not changed at all:

"A survey from Morning Consult/Politico found Trump's net approval rating was still struggling at -13, even with the Mueller probe coming to a close. The poll, conducted March 25 through March 26, pegged Trump's approval rating at 42 percent and his disapproval at 55 percent. Morning Consult/Politico noted those results were "virtually identical" to the survey it had conducted the week before."

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trum...ry-lap-1376834

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/...rr-letter.html

So Trump supporters on this forum should feel free to do their victory dance. But the fact seems to be that voters just don't give a damn about the outcome of the Russia investigation. In my opinion, most of the country thought along with me -- there was no collusion. So the resulting verdict that there was no collusion had no impact on the voting public.

So you and most of the voting public always knew there was no collusion? Therefore a cast of sordid characters within the Democratic Party lied. Which do you think is more crucial at this point, Trump's approval rating or the elect-ability of a Democratic Candidate?