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I'm taking notes of all these players yall are mentioning that I haven't really heard of. I want to hear how good they were. Hopefully I can find some decent recordings online.
You tube!
You'll recognize the tunes I mentioned even if you don't recognize the names.
BTW Jessica was Betts' daughter.
Be careful. You'll get sucked into the YouTube Vortex.
There are a billion guitarists out there, and a million of them that can actually play.
NO ONE is the best ever!
I partly agree. Anyone with instrument talent can inspire and there will never be a one absolute best ever but consensus rules the day. Just as quality and grade are not the same neither is precision the same as accuracy. There are classes. A, B, and C. and of your million only a small % bubble up to the top and get the consensus approval.
So while Michael Jordan, in group A , Patrick Ewing in group B, and Kenny Smith in group C can all play and inspire it's obvious MJ is the best of the bunch. If you don't think this is a good example then feel free to explain why. I could be wrong.
edit: So in other words I'm not going to let you lump the best guitarists of all time in with joe blow if joe blow should be in that class then let joe blow rise to the top.
I love Jimi but do you think he gets sentimental Woodstock points. Where do you think he ranked before Woodstock followed closely by his death in 1970.
Anything is possible, I suppose....perhaps even in this case. Say for instance if Jimi hadn't performed at Woodstock and Eric Clapton (Cream) or Jimmy Page (Zep) had? Would either one of these Brits get that "sentimental" nod as the all-time Number One by the voters (or the individual who put that list together)? It's a question worth asking ourselves and it's likely you'd get strong arguments either way.
But IMHO, Jimi was already regarded by many as the best of his generation (with or without the benefit of playing Woodstock)....his early demise may have fortified that legendary status simply because the living find it difficult to detach themselves from "what if" (he'd lived to a ripe ol' age).....so we immortalize him as the greatest in order to cover that "lost potential" scenario.
Anything is possible, I suppose....perhaps even in this case. Say for instance if Jimi hadn't performed at Woodstock and Eric Clapton (Cream) or Jimmy Page (Zep) had? Would either one of these Brits get that "sentimental" nod as the all-time Number One by the voters (or the individual who put that list together)? It's a question worth asking ourselves and it's likely you'd get strong arguments either way.
But IMHO, Jimi was already regarded by many as the best of his generation (with or without the benefit of playing Woodstock)....his early demise may have fortified that legendary status simply because the living find it difficult to detach themselves from "what if" (he'd lived to a ripe ol' age).....so we immortalize him as the greatest in order to cover that "lost potential" scenario.
You seem to know your stuff and have pretty good analysis. Let me ask you why doesn't Santana get any serious mention with the all-time greats. He's pretty dam awesome.
There are a some others that are not on the list, but should be.
1. Carlos Santana. Saw him and his band last week at Bayou Place. 67 and still great. He created an entirely original sound, Latin R and R with lots of jamming.
2. Mark Knopfler, of Dire Straits fame. Eric Clapton is "Slow Hands". Mark Knopfler is "Smooth Hands". That's because he is a finger picker. When you watch him, his picking hand appears to be still, while the great notes are blasting out of that guitar. My favorite musician overall and member of the "Song Writers Hall Of Fame". Every song on every album his was written by him, except for MTV, which was co-written with Sting, who shares vocals on that song. Got to see him in a 1,500 seat auditorium in Santa Rosa, California, 6th row.
3. Leo Kotke. Best acoustical guitar player ever. Finger picks a twelve string.
4. Jerry Douglas. Best Dobro player. Has a current hit, "The Fighter", performed with Marcus Mumford. Plays with Allison Krause and Union Station.
And you can add Eric Johnson, Joe Satriani and Yngwie Malmsteen to that list if you wanna get into technical guitar players.....
Russ - I like some of Satriani's stuff very technical but you gotta combine that with some hits that move the crowd otherwise you kinda get lost in the shuffle.
Russ - I like some of Satriani's stuff very technical but you gotta combine that with some hits that move the crowd otherwise you kinda get lost in the shuffle.
I've seen all three perform live and believe me, the crowd was moved.....but then again, I never followed the mainstream crowd.....