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Old 09-25-2017, 08:01 PM   #31
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I despise the Cowboys,but LOVE this!

"The entire Dallas Cowboys team including owner Jerry Jones briefly knelt before the national anthem before their Monday night NFL game against the Arizona Cardinals in the final game of a football weekend dominated by attention paid to the protests.

The Cowboys knelt as a team before the anthem began, leading to boos from the crowd, but then stood as the anthem was sung.

The Cardinals, meanwhile, stood locked in arms with current and former military service members in a show of solidarity."
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It's brilliant. Anyone who condemns this is just wrong. They didn't disrespect anything the flag or anthem represents. They did this before the anthem, then stood and locked arms during. They made a statement in a peaceful way as a unit, ownership down to locker boy. Whoever came up with this (Jones himself?) is a genius. Anyone who screams about this (and there are already a lot) proves they don't believe in anything, they just hate because they hate.
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Old 09-25-2017, 08:56 PM   #32
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Does anyone believe for a moment that taking a knee will actually stop cops from shooting blacks or have any effect whatsoever on police brutality?

Better stock up on those knee pads.


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Old 09-26-2017, 06:46 AM   #33
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I despise the Cowboys,but LOVE this!

"The entire Dallas Cowboys team including owner Jerry Jones briefly knelt before the national anthem before their Monday night NFL game against the Arizona Cardinals in the final game of a football weekend dominated by attention paid to the protests.

The Cowboys knelt as a team before the anthem began, leading to boos from the crowd, but then stood as the anthem was sung.

The Cardinals, meanwhile, stood locked in arms with current and former military service members in a show of solidarity."
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...efore-national

It's brilliant. Anyone who condemns this is just wrong. They didn't disrespect anything the flag or anthem represents. They did this before the anthem, then stood and locked arms during. They made a statement in a peaceful way as a unit, ownership down to locker boy. Whoever came up with this (Jones himself?) is a genius. Anyone who screams about this (and there are already a lot) proves they don't believe in anything, they just hate because they hate.

And people in the stadium still booed. Almost makes one think this wasn’t about vets or the flag. Maybe it was about athletes, majority black, doing something some fans didn’t like. Kinda how they tell athletes to stick to sports when they say something some fans don’t like.
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Old 09-26-2017, 06:51 AM   #34
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Does anyone believe for a moment that taking a knee will actually stop cops from shooting blacks or have any effect whatsoever on police brutality?

Better stock up on those knee pads.


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Did anyone ever say taking a knee would stop it? Did people think throwing tea off a boat would directly lead to representation? No the protest is to show people that you’re not going to sit quietly and take the injustices you see. It’s a step towards making change. But hey at least you can admit there is police brutality and shooting of African Americans, some people can’t see that or they deflect with stupid things like Chicago.
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Old 09-26-2017, 07:42 AM   #35
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And people in the stadium still booed. Almost makes one think this wasn’t about vets or the flag. Maybe it was about athletes, majority black, doing something some fans didn’t like. Kinda how they tell athletes to stick to sports when they say something some fans don’t like.
NFL players only started coming on field for the National Anthem in 2009.
The reason: The govt. paid them to stage patriotic displays to boost military recruitment.
The Department of Defense and the National Guard paid the NFL a combined $12.3 million between 2011 and 2015, so the next time you think NFL players should stay out of politics, just remember that politics injected itself into the NFL first, and these players never got a say in being used as army recruitment tools.
Don't like players protesting? Petition the government to reallocate those funds to something productive and let the players make their own choices in the locker room like they used to.
Article from 2015.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/04/news...tes/index.html
Neo-Nazis shouting "Jews Will Not Replace Us" and "Blood and Soil": Some very fine people.
Black athletes using their first amendment right to kneel for victims of police shootings: Sons of bitches.
Trump logic.
This whole disrespecting-the-flag-is-disrespecting-the-troops type bullshit coming from someone who dodged the draft and made fun of John McCain's POW stint though.
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Old 09-26-2017, 04:13 PM   #36
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:24 AM   #37
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NFL = No Fans Left.
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Old 09-27-2017, 06:43 AM   #38
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It will be interesting to see what impact all this has on both attendance at games and watching on TV. My feeling is that the impact will be minimal. Most people, no matter what their feelings are on the matter, are fanatics about football and will not be willing to tear up tickets costing hundreds of dollars. A few will not turn on the game, or turn it on to see what happens when the national anthem plays, and then turn it off.
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Old 09-27-2017, 11:47 AM   #39
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I've seen many FB friends claim they cancelled their NFL Sunday ticket. I friend who has season tickets to the pro team in the city said fuck it and selling them on CL. People think Trump was divisive by saying what he did. Meanwhile those people don't consider the millionaire babies kneeling divisive. 70% plus say the knee crap is stupid and they are against it. The NFL commissioner has got to be the worst business man EVER in the world. He has put these owners in a no win situation. Now the liberals are saying "why play the anthem at all?" Well, why fly the flag? Once again...a minority of the people ruin it for everyone. Trump speaks for me saying "FUCK YOU! I'm not taking this shit lying down anymore. Give an inch take a mile. NFL blew it!
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:08 PM   #40
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Well I can say fuck you as well, I fought on 3 different fronts so you and your president can say fuck you to me. For people that say fuck the NFL yall sure comment on it s lot, why don't you talk about something else? Ooh, it's your right, hypocrites!
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:11 PM   #41
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That's stupidity at it's finest.
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:13 PM   #42
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Wow, you copy and pasted from "urban" dictionary, you fool
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Old 09-27-2017, 12:30 PM   #43
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NFL players only started coming on field for the National Anthem in 2009.
The reason: The govt. paid them to stage patriotic displays to boost military recruitment.
The Department of Defense and the National Guard paid the NFL a combined $12.3 million between 2011 and 2015, so the next time you think NFL players should stay out of politics, just remember that politics injected itself into the NFL first, and these players never got a say in being used as army recruitment tools.
Don't like players protesting? Petition the government to reallocate those funds to something productive and let the players make their own choices in the locker room like they used to.
Article from 2015.
http://money.cnn.com/2015/11/04/news...tes/index.html
Neo-Nazis shouting "Jews Will Not Replace Us" and "Blood and Soil": Some very fine people.
Black athletes using their first amendment right to kneel for victims of police shootings: Sons of bitches.
Trump logic.
This whole disrespecting-the-flag-is-disrespecting-the-troops type bullshit coming from someone who dodged the draft and made fun of John McCain's POW stint though.
You will never get it through thick-headed people. They don't care what Trump does and that is for one simple fact, sad in this day and age but true!
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:31 PM   #44
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Well I can say fuck you as well, I fought on 3 different fronts so you and your president can say fuck you to me. For people that say fuck the NFL yall sure comment on it s lot, why don't you talk about something else? Ooh, it's your right, hypocrites!
They are weak minded pawns. Fake ass Patriots. I'm a die hard Cowboys fans and there is no way I would let a Racist POS like Donald Trump convince me to stop watching football or Boycott the NFL. How long has it been since KP first took a knee and now these Fake Ass Patriots want to act like their feelings are hurt?


The Government paid the NFL to act Patriotic. They kissed the NFL's ass. The NFL is too big and powerful and will be just fine. Anyone with half a brain know what Trump is trying to do.
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Old 09-27-2017, 02:35 PM   #45
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Wow, you copy and pasted from "urban" dictionary, you fool
Huh? What are you talking about?
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