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12-28-2012, 01:11 PM
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I've seen both the $2000/hr and the $150. The $2000 was a disappointment. Not because she wasn't pretty, sexy and fun. She just wasn't worth $2000. But I've seen $150s that weren't worth $150. It's always a crap shoot because the most important factor is chemistry. And paying $2000 doesn't guarantee chemistry any more than paying $150 automatically eliminates it.
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12-28-2012, 03:16 PM
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For a serious response, I think the whole "well what does she do???" is the BIGGEST misconception. The higher price has very little to do with physical services.
I personally know ladies that charge or have charged $1,000, $1,500, $2,000, and $5,000 per hour, respectively. Each saw no more than 1 - 2 gents a day in major, international cities, and very rarely did anything shorter that 2 hours of a date. I also have met guys who have paid such rates not "once in a blue moon" but regularly (weekly/monthly).
These ladies were not:
- pornstars
- former pornstars
- famous strippers
- offering bbfs
- offering anal
- only getting a date once a month, or a few times a year. They stay booked. (think about it - advertising for a lady like that can easily cost $5k a month - add in travel/beauty/incalls, etc - so they're definitely getting regular dates to make such investments worthwhile)
Believe it or not, only one lady offered bbj. Most did not allow or even have reviews (in my dealings with these gents, they generally don't have the time or concern to study "hobby boards")
Now before you go run and start calling these ladies clientèle stupid, realize that they are far from it. These are very intelligent and successful men who know quite a lot about money. They did not choose these ladies for their "menu", they choose such ladies for the following reasons:
- High level of education (PhD, Masters, etc)
- High IQ
- The fact that she has other pursuits outside of sex work
- Formal training in etiquette and professionalism
- Multi-lingual
- Globally concious
- Highly well read
- Modelesque looks WITHOUT huge fake DD's, "frog lips",orange skin, etc
- There are some traditional geshia/courtesan "schools" around the world that a lady can "enroll" in, and some women are professionally trained in the art of seduction (not sex - seduction.)
.... in that order.
You just have to realize that for what to you is say, "mandatory" bbj, is instead for them a "mandatory" PhD and being fluent in French and German. Those are the "services" that suit their needs. The sex, well, that's a given so its somewhat of an afterthought.
With all that said, there is one huge exception: Pornstar/Stripper escorts. Those rates are, obviously, based on sexual fantasy and the clients would be fans. So in that respect there is a "market" where huge breasts, porn credits, and "freaky" sex moves are the desire of men who are "review-driven" and oftentimes "save up" to afford the fantasy they saw on screen. This market is in the same price range, but totally and completely different from the one I'm talking about. I think there is much confusion when people do not realize there are three (at least) distinct $1,000/hr + markets: Pornstar, High End Courtesan (the one I'm talking about), and Extreme/Rare Find Fetish, they each operate in very different ways.
Thats the best I can do at explaining it...of course, the question will still come up over and over again, because its two totally different opposing philosophies about whats "worth it"
Before this discussion becomes too heated, lets all remember this: To all the guys who pay $200/hr and are bewildered as to why a guy would pay $2k/hr, keep in mind that the guys who are paying $2k are not in the slightest bit concerned as to who or what your doing with your money. They are enjoying what I'm sure is a very nice lifestyle that involves a lot of doing whatever they damn well please without much concern for others opinions - perhaps some of Eccie ought to do the same? Just a thought... ![Wink](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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Don't forget one fact. Money spent is relative to your wealth. To some $1k is a mere tip, while to others it is aweeks wages!
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12-28-2012, 08:44 PM
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this is a fallacy
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Don't forget one fact. Money spent is relative to your wealth. To some $1k is a mere tip, while to others it is aweeks wages!
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I may be a 1% but I have never considered a 1000 a mere tip. I didn't get to where I am by considering that kind of money a "mere tip". Now of the .1%'s maybe, like a Buffet or a Gates, then ok it is a tip.
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12-29-2012, 02:20 AM
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Don't forget one fact. Money spent is relative to your wealth. To some $1k is a mere tip, while to others it is aweeks wages!
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To some 1/3rd of that is a week's wages. I'd personally work for tips all day for a person with that kind of wealth.
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12-29-2012, 03:24 AM
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ok, i have seen a few showcases, or on line web sites for ladies that are approaching $1K ph. Are there any $2K ph, that have a public ad? I can see paying $2K for a multi hour, but not as a single hour rate.
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12-29-2012, 04:27 AM
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I have one thing to add after reading this. If the higher end scale means discretion , then why do alot of then talk after getting busted? Book deals? I have seen providers all across the price scale, and the cost does not mean "whatever". As with any thing in life YMMV is so true. I have meet some, we connected and was awesome, and was not high end. Hell I still think about a few.
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12-29-2012, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by lostforkate
ok, i have seen a few showcases, or on line web sites for ladies that are approaching $1K ph. Are there any $2K ph, that have a public ad? I can see paying $2K for a multi hour, but not as a single hour rate.
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The $2K/hr providers are rare, but they exist; I've seen some on p411, and they have personal websites as well. Many of the traits of a high-end provider mentioned above can be experienced with providers in the $300-$700 / hr range, which is the great majority of my experiences. With ample research and due diligence, almost all my encounters have resulted in very positive experiences.
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12-29-2012, 11:05 AM
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That reminds me of an old group I used to love ! Anyone from the old Demimonde group still participating on this forum. The ladies in that group were a living definition of the difference that always seems to be in question. Great group at least in the beginning, don't know what happened to it.
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12-29-2012, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by mike1701
I have one thing to add after reading this. If the higher end scale means discretion , then why do alot of then talk after getting busted? Book deals? I have seen providers all across the price scale, and the cost does not mean "whatever". As with any thing in life YMMV is so true. I have meet some, we connected and was awesome, and was not high end. Hell I still think about a few.
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That is because some people have no idea how to spell "discreet" in the first place. I am not sure, if you talk about "book deals" how much incriminating details are to be found. I read a few things about this one NYC callgirl and all she mentioned was what was already in the papers. I doubt that anyone with half a brain (and I am aware that some people are incredible stupid in this business, also writing details about clients on blogs .. ) would be doing such a thing.
Wasn`t there this person - I don`t remember her name - Heidi Fleiss, I guess, whose "Black Book" was chased to no extent? I doubt that anything not "known" was published before.
Mostly these "book deals" consist of semi-professional schoolwritings-style that serve as cheap wanking material for the curious. But that is the whole purpose, I guess, and I am pretty sure that there are no incriminating details about persons exposed. People are stupid and financially greedy, but I doubt anyone would be THAT stupid
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01-02-2013, 04:08 AM
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I could show you top dollar performance
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01-02-2013, 04:27 PM
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I don't know how reddogdancer? You'd have to travel a long way and I don't pay for travel. LMAO
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01-03-2013, 11:19 PM
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I think its the over all experience offered. Supreme service takes effort. Its all in the details that make the experience of anything more lavish and worth an equally lavish rate.
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01-05-2013, 10:29 AM
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That reminds me of an old group I used to love ! Anyone from the old Demimonde group still participating on this forum. The ladies in that group were a living definition of the difference that always seems to be in question. Great group at least in the beginning, don't know what happened to it.
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Toto pulled back the curtain!
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01-08-2013, 09:51 PM
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it's like comparing cheap clothes to expensive ones. sometimes you are paying for better cloth & sturdier stitches.other times you are just paying for a label. one is not better than the other, as long as you leave smiling
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01-09-2013, 01:49 PM
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I've paid in excess of a thousand on a handful of occasions, but those were pornstar providers. In those situations I was paying to say I was with a pornstar I've watched for sometime, and less about her performance being above that of a $200 provider. However, I will say I've never had a thousand dollar plus experience be negative, but I can't say the same about my $200 experiences.
I wouldn't think looks alone would equate to such a price difference, than again I grew up near a beach and extremely attractive women were always plentiful so I may be jaded.
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