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12-06-2010, 11:18 AM
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Hmmm
Fascinating!!! I don't know anything about the blog or individual being discussed here...or for that matter any other blog.
But, reading between the lines, it appears that some guy was running a blog, acting like a woman, and referring women to himself. Also was giving providers advice that might be more in his best interest than theirs. Cute trick, and I guess pretty clever...until, of course, you get caught.
But listening to some of the guys here...it appears the only reaction is to tell the women to "smarten up". I dare say the reaction would be different if the guys found out some gal was writing reviews for herself in an attempt to lure guys to her lair. Hell, in the various forums, we have entire sections devoted to such alerts.
Lighten up folks...it's Christmastime.
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12-06-2010, 12:00 PM
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But listening to some of the guys here...it appears the only reaction is to tell the women to "smarten up". I dare say the reaction would be different if the guys found out some gal was writing reviews for herself in an attempt to lure guys to her lair.
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Actually, it seems fairly common to tell guys who had a bad experience -- because they didn't check reviews or relied on a single review by a new member -- that they need to be more careful. Camille gave essentially the same advice in this case; it's not just us men.
I am sympathetic, even if it didn't sound like it. I intended only to offer some advice, but of course shouldn't have. I forgot the First Rule: never offer unsolicited advice or comments about an escort's problems. (Or, for that matter, about a client's problems.)
So . . . those earlier posts? Please disregard.
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12-06-2010, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Rudyard K
Fascinating!!! I don't know anything about the blog or individual being discussed here...or for that matter any other blog.
But, reading between the lines, it appears that some guy was running a blog, acting like a woman, and referring women to himself. Also was giving providers advice that might be more in his best interest than theirs. Cute trick, and I guess pretty clever...until, of course, you get caught.
But listening to some of the guys here...it appears the only reaction is to tell the women to "smarten up". I dare say the reaction would be different if the guys found out some gal was writing reviews for herself in an attempt to lure guys to her lair. Hell, in the various forums, we have entire sections devoted to such alerts.
Lighten up folks...it's Christmastime.
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Thank you. You are such a smart man! There should be more men like you on this board.
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12-06-2010, 01:13 PM
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It disturbs me that any clients would try to defend his actions. If I found out that one of my colleagues, a female escort, was posing as a man to write fake reviews, using fake photos, ripping people off or otherwise behaving dishonestly, I certainly wouldn't defend her. I know that it happens, but I know that it's wrong. And I know that behavior like that discredits honest people who engage in this activity, and makes the community less safe for everyone.
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And to clarify -- I don't think we were trying to defend the actions in question. At least, I wasn't.
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12-06-2010, 03:01 PM
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Thank you. You are such a smart man! There should be more men like you on this board.
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Rudy? You must have him mistaken for someone else.
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12-06-2010, 03:39 PM
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Rudy? You must have him mistaken for someone else.
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Yes.. Rudy. :-) No Mistake.
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12-06-2010, 03:42 PM
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Obviously. It's a relatively unsafe industry to work in at all, and unfortunately many women have to learn through trial and error—myself included, I certainly made mistakes during my first year of work. Many women don't have anyone they can confide in or get real-life advice from when beginning in this profession. So while it's very unfortunate that this man was able to manipulate ladies who most likely really needed money (and were possibly new to the business), it's not horribly surprising. Thank god enough sex workers did have this healthy dose of skepticism you speak of, so they were able to out this person and assure that he doesn't prey on anyone else.
It disturbs me that any clients would try to defend his actions. If I found out that one of my colleagues, a female escort, was posing as a man to write fake reviews, using fake photos, ripping people off or otherwise behaving dishonestly, I certainly wouldn't defend her. I know that it happens, but I know that it's wrong. And I know that behavior like that discredits honest people who engage in this activity, and makes the community less safe for everyone.
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Well said Natalie.
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12-06-2010, 03:43 PM
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And to clarify -- I don't think we were trying to defend the actions in question. At least, I wasn't.
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You didn't?
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12-06-2010, 08:23 PM
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It disturbs me that any clients would try to defend his actions. .
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And to clarify -- I don't think we were trying to defend the actions in question. At least, I wasn't.
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Nor was I. What I was trying to point out was that one must take responsibility for their own actions. If you ladies believe in the Tooth Fairy or blogs at this advanced age you need to look in the mirror, not point a finger at me or anyone else.
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But listening to some of the guys here...it appears the only reaction is to tell the women to "smarten up". I dare say the reaction would be different if the guys found out some gal was writing reviews for herself in an attempt to lure guys to her lair. Hell, in the various forums, we have entire sections devoted to such alerts.
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If a woman wrote fake reviews and that lured me over to her pad and then she blew my mind....I'm thinking , "No harm, No foul!".
My guess is some of the so called experts are diverting attention from their embarrassment for being fooled in "The Crying Game''
Here is partial interview with this dude....sounds like sound advice to me.
http://www.thedailynorm.com/2009/10/alexa-dicarlo-sex-worker-and-sex-worker-rights-activist/
TDN: What would you change about your work, industry, profession or self if you could change anything?
Alexa: I would change the stigma associated with sex work. People have this media- and ignorance-induced concept of what being a prostitute is like, and the reality for those of us who do private work is nothing like what most people envision. The people who make it seem as though we’re all drug-addicted, sexually-abused, can’t get a “real job” lowlifes are the ones who seem to get all of the attention. The people who do this work and can speak intelligently about it are rarely heard, and when we are, we’re not believed. I’d change it so that we at least get equal footing with the anti-prostitution crowd. That was the primary impetus for the My First Professional Sex web site, in fact.
TDN: Who do you most admire? Why?
Alexa: I’m going to cheat and say that I admire women as a group. Women are such special creatures and so very misunderstood or intentionally ignored by the power structures in our world. Even when women participate in those power structures, they often seem to lose touch with their femaleness and their sense of community with women as a whole, so things don’t get better for us. We’ve made progress, to be sure, but have so far to go to rid the world of misogyny, sexism, inequality and all of that. That we live in that kind of environment and manage to thrive and succeed is awe-inspiring to me.
TDN: If someone wanted to be you or do what you do, what would you say to them?
Alexa: Oh, gosh. ....
...... Just make sure you understand the bad parts that go along with the good parts. Some women discover they’re born for this kind of work and excel at it.
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No he didn't. Nobody has. Life is about taking lemons and making lemonade. Not blaming others. Take a glass over to Rudyard and see if he can add a lil Sweet'N'Low to it.
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12-06-2010, 09:32 PM
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I guess if a Con Man tells some parts that are true...he ain't a Con Man.
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Life is about taking lemons and making lemonade. Not blaming others.
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This statement from Mr. Whiney when it comes to healthcare reform, defense spending, immigration, executive salaries, ad naseum, ad naseum, ad naseum...
Guess that's more of your bouncing linear balls.
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12-06-2010, 09:42 PM
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Well. If he were any more a con than the rest of you assholes, he'd be all up in your biz trying to direct your reasoning, wouldn't he. Lying or not lying hardly indicates a con-but I've known plenty of cons who sell that claim. What would you guys be without it after all.
I know it's true, for Tupac told me so. Criminal Ethics 101, motherfuckers.
Same goes for the narcissism claims...haha. But keep at it, it's funny all the same. I'm as amused as PatBo must be, anyway.
Oh, and tell these dumb whores to quit running drugs on Eccie while you're at it. Drug culture deserves better representation than their disorganized mess allows for.
PEACE!
(P.S. Irena, droppin' knowledge like this-and-other instrumentals never had a clue is stitchable. I'd say No Shit Sherlock but since that doesn't reach y'alls brain, how about No Shit Nassim. You do know that playin' along doesn't mean playing into, or even playing with right. LMAO.)
"Y'all had me under surveillance-but I'm knowin'..."
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12-06-2010, 09:49 PM
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Its better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Damn KH, you had done so well. Made it all the way from February.
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12-06-2010, 09:51 PM
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No, I didn't.
Failure to express my sympathy clearly? Guilty. Offering unslicited advice? Guilty. Defending the actions of a manipulator and deceiver? Nope.
There is a difference between suggesting that something is really OK (because the victim's actions implied consent) and pointing out a lack of caution that could increase one's vulnerability.
The most common example of the former would probably be those who blame a rape victim of dressing sexy or point out that she's an escort so it's really just a commercial dispute. That implies, in effect, that the lady invited it or at least has no right to refuse, simply because of an extraneous factor like her dress or profession. That is blaming the victim, and excusing the rapist -- and that attitude is completely despicable in my opinion.
An example of the second category? My younger brother calls and says "Hey Joe, can you come pick me up? I parked my car and when I came back, it was gone! God damned car thief!" Not until I ask does he mention that he parked in a high-crime area and left the doors unlocked and the keys in the ignition. And my response would be "Dude, first, my name isn't Joe, and second, what the fuck were you thinking???". Doesn't mean the car thief was justified or that I'm defending the theft; doesn't mean I don't sympathize. Just means my brother needed (in my opinion) to be reminded, since he hadn't acknowledged or recognized his carelessness, that he needs to be more careful. (If he'd started by saying something like "I know I made a stupid mistake," my reaction would have been completely different.) It isn't defending the car thief, it's telling my brother the doofus that he should exercize caution and not leave himself vulnerable. And hopefully he won't make that stupid mistake again.
The difference between the categories may be subtle, but it is a difference. If you disagree, well, you're entitled to your own opinion but I'm not going to lose sleep over what you think of me. As, I'm sure, you're not concerned about what I think of you -- as you shouldn't be.
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12-06-2010, 09:51 PM
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Well, when liars and haters team up...
I'd say choose your own adventure, but anyway.
Mods: guest this shit. I speak for the poor and the exploited-my kind has no place in this forum. Hell, we're everything exploitative madams, whoremongers, and cons can't stand.
It's day three, and I'm heading to my check-up now...
Peace!
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12-06-2010, 10:10 PM
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Kylie you better watch out
I might start a blog about you
You a boy or a girl?
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