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04-24-2017, 01:11 PM
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Just a girl in the world.
User ID: 444
Join Date: Apr 1, 2009
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Male or female-
There is a way to back out of a session once you show up and you know it just wont go well if it continues. Valid reasons - you find someone unattractive, overweight, looks like a troll, is wearing cologne from the 70s and hasn't showered since... It is all in the way you handle the situation. Gently, honestly, and reasonably.
Gently-
By not telling a chick you cant see her pussy because her FUPA is in the way and you wanna gag.
If a fella is so large you can't push his gut up to give him head, for fucks sake don't say it in those words. -_-
Honestly -
Be honest about why you want to back out. Don't make up some lame, see through excuse.
Reasonably-
Let's face it.. when two people show up for an event, and it is cancelled at the door, BOTH parties are out time and money. Getting ready, driving, paying for venue, making free time when there isn't much to be had. It sucks for both sides. Let's not act like one side has it much worse than the other.
Solution - It should have went down something like this-
Her- Hi! *big smile on face* (walks inside)
Him- Hello there! *grin* (closes door while staring at her ass)
Her- Oh. Um. (trying to put words together)
Him- Can I get you some water or something else to drink? (gestures to kitchen or mini fridge)
Her- Actually, let's talk for a sec.
Him- Sure, what's up?
Her- I am not quite sure we are a good match physically. I am sorry to have come all the way over here and inconvenienced us both.
Him- Oh. Is it my weight? If so, I have no problems working around your concerns, OR we could just do something else like a massage for the time we have left.
Her- I am still not comfortable. I am Sorry. I know this is terrible to ask, but can I ask for a little something to cover my expenses getting here?
Him- (feeling rejected but still being a gentleman) Sure, no worries. Sometimes these things don't work out. How much do you need.
Her- $100 for my driver.
Him- That's a bit much. How about I give you $50 and no hard feelings?
Her- (Unhappy but being reasonable) Sure. That will cover it.
Him- Here, thanks anyways.
Her- Goodbye.
Totes a generic situation - and requires both parties to not get offended, keep their cool, AND be reasonable. Eh, some will say it won't ever happen, but it does. Rip away.
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04-24-2017, 01:54 PM
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#32
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jun 10, 2012
Location: Plano
Posts: 3,914
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Ze,
There are ways to back out of a session. It's up to the provider to fuck who she wants no matter.
However, she doesn't get $$ if she decides to backout for a lot of those. Yes, the guy probably should cough up some dough if he has the flu when she gets there or has blisters all over his junk. A John should know before booking that blisters on his balls are going to get him turned down every time.
This specific case falls under those instances where no fee is due, however.
It would be greathe if providers felt some attaction to every guy. Chances are though, on occasion, they're not.... Every ones jobs sucks some times. If we did not do it when it sucked, we couldn't expect to be paid, either, for the times when it sucked and eventually when it didn't either.
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04-24-2017, 03:44 PM
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#33
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Apr 3, 2010
Location: home
Posts: 391
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"feeling rejected but still being a gentleman" pays for driver..... I think that's hilarious the way it portrayed as chivalrous to be expected to do this.
Let's imagine from a different perspective.
A person is foolish enough to invite someone he's never met to his residence.
She shows up, cancels the appointment and asks for money for the guy sitting in the car in his driveway.
They guy thinks "great Guido the killer pimp is outside, knows where I live.."
How chivalrous.
Not that I would ever find myself in such a situation-but if it were me it would have ended differently.
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04-24-2017, 05:03 PM
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#34
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Join Date: Jun 22, 2012
Location: Hurst, TX
Posts: 583
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So this would seem to boil down to failure to provide services and borderline extortion.
The guy gets nothing and therefore should owe nothing. But he has this girl standing in front of him demanding money with someone outside who may be armed or who knows what if he does not hand over money. For all he knows you show up and always run through this same routine.
You have every right to choose not to deliver services agreed on. But if you choose not to provide then you should not ask for anything. No play no pay works same as no pay no play.
Different sides of the same coin.
This is main reason I never entertain outcalls at my place. Just too much risk of extortion.
For those providers who think he should have been a gentleman and paid the driver something suppose we flip the coin. A guy shows up at your incall and you decide due to his looks or whatever not to provide service. Of course he is not going to pay you. But if he asked for gas money for the inconvenience of making the drive or to cover his Uber driver would you be a lady and hand over some money? No? Like I said different sides of the coin.
Nothing happened, no services provided, no money should change hands. Everyone apologize and move on.
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04-24-2017, 05:07 PM
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#35
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Join Date: Jan 28, 2010
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 15,482
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The big client was too nice, I would of sent her out the door with no pay! It's P4P in here still correct?
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04-24-2017, 06:04 PM
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#36
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Dec 29, 2016
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 1,207
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Stripper move made on the guy. Too bad he couldn't do anything to save his Benjamin from separating.
Dude, I'm telling you need to hit the strip club and learn the way how they hustle.
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04-24-2017, 06:09 PM
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Pending Age Verification
User ID: 369053
Join Date: Oct 8, 2016
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 122
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This is Fat Man discrimination lol
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May all the big boys ban together and do a march for equal rights!! Fight the power!
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04-24-2017, 07:08 PM
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#38
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Babtized in dirty water 💦
Join Date: Nov 29, 2010
Location: Euless
Posts: 727
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Why do you think you are paid what you are? If we were all Adonis's you'd be paying us! You are a pretty girl, get your head on straight. If want 250 an hour your going to need to buck up and take the good with the bad or get a phd. If not join the RW and hope for $15.00 an hour. It's your body, decide what you want to do. Work 40-50 hours a week and make $675.00 a week (before taxes) or work 10-12 hours a week see 5 johns and and make $1250.00 no taxes.
I know what most of us would do if we could!
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04-24-2017, 11:46 PM
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#39
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Professional Tush Hog.
Join Date: Mar 27, 2009
Location: Here and there.
Posts: 8,959
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Originally Posted by ~Ze~
Male or female-
There is a way to back out of a session once you show up and you know it just wont go well if it continues. Valid reasons - you find someone unattractive, overweight, looks like a troll, is wearing cologne from the 70s and hasn't showered since... It is all in the way you handle the situation. Gently, honestly, and reasonably.
Gently-
By not telling a chick you cant see her pussy because her FUPA is in the way and you wanna gag.
If a fella is so large you can't push his gut up to give him head, for fucks sake don't say it in those words. -_-
Honestly -
Be honest about why you want to back out. Don't make up some lame, see through excuse.
Reasonably-
Let's face it.. when two people show up for an event, and it is cancelled at the door, BOTH parties are out time and money. Getting ready, driving, paying for venue, making free time when there isn't much to be had. It sucks for both sides. Let's not act like one side has it much worse than the other.
Solution - It should have went down something like this-
Her- Hi! *big smile on face* (walks inside)
Him- Hello there! *grin* (closes door while staring at her ass)
Her- Oh. Um. (trying to put words together)
Him- Can I get you some water or something else to drink? (gestures to kitchen or mini fridge)
Her- Actually, let's talk for a sec.
Him- Sure, what's up?
Her- I am not quite sure we are a good match physically. I am sorry to have come all the way over here and inconvenienced us both.
Him- Oh. Is it my weight? If so, I have no problems working around your concerns, OR we could just do something else like a massage for the time we have left.
Her- I am still not comfortable. I am Sorry. I know this is terrible to ask, but can I ask for a little something to cover my expenses getting here?
Him- (feeling rejected but still being a gentleman) Sure, no worries. Sometimes these things don't work out. How much do you need.
Her- $100 for my driver.
Him- That's a bit much. How about I give you $50 and no hard feelings?
Her- (Unhappy but being reasonable) Sure. That will cover it.
Him- Here, thanks anyways.
Her- Goodbye.
Totes a generic situation - and requires both parties to not get offended, keep their cool, AND be reasonable. Eh, some will say it won't ever happen, but it does. Rip away.
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Manners never go out if fashion. And what you propose is worlds better than the OP's gaffe fest.
But I persist in my belief that if it's just the weight (as opposed to a hygiene issue, for example) do your screening in advance. Asking for money because you didn't ask his weight (when you have anpredetermined limit) takes chutzpah. It's like having a rule against seeing guys ove 40, but not asking their age when they book. It's pretty predictable that some of us hobbyists are over 40 and packing anywhere from a few (modestly raises his hand) to a hundred or so (there but for the grace of God and genetics . . . ) extra pounds.
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04-25-2017, 08:45 AM
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#40
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Sep 2, 2012
Location: Dallas
Posts: 1,017
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Many of the ladies on here have a cancellation fee and that is if you cancel less than 24 hours prior. Maybe the guys should start imposing cancellation fees. Hey women want equal rights let's make this equal. Ze you are totally seeing this from the Hooker perspective. The "overweight" gentleman owed nothing.
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04-25-2017, 10:26 AM
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#41
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 29, 2016
Location: Ft Worth, Texas
Posts: 123
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This conversation
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Originally Posted by ~Ze~
Male or female-
There is a way to back out of a session once you show up and you know it just wont go well if it continues. Valid reasons - you find someone unattractive, overweight, looks like a troll, is wearing cologne from the 70s and hasn't showered since... It is all in the way you handle the situation. Gently, honestly, and reasonably.
Gently-
By not telling a chick you cant see her pussy because her FUPA is in the way and you wanna gag.
If a fella is so large you can't push his gut up to give him head, for fucks sake don't say it in those words. -_-
Honestly -
Be honest about why you want to back out. Don't make up some lame, see through excuse.
Reasonably-
Let's face it.. when two people show up for an event, and it is cancelled at the door, BOTH parties are out time and money. Getting ready, driving, paying for venue, making free time when there isn't much to be had. It sucks for both sides. Let's not act like one side has it much worse than the other.
Solution - It should have went down something like this-
Her- Hi! *big smile on face* (walks inside)
Him- Hello there! *grin* (closes door while staring at her ass)
Her- Oh. Um. (trying to put words together)
Him- Can I get you some water or something else to drink? (gestures to kitchen or mini fridge)
Her- Actually, let's talk for a sec.
Him- Sure, what's up?
Her- I am not quite sure we are a good match physically. I am sorry to have come all the way over here and inconvenienced us both.
Him- Oh. Is it my weight? If so, I have no problems working around your concerns, OR we could just do something else like a massage for the time we have left.
Her- I am still not comfortable. I am Sorry. I know this is terrible to ask, but can I ask for a little something to cover my expenses getting here?
Him- (feeling rejected but still being a gentleman) Sure, no worries. Sometimes these things don't work out. How much do you need.
Her- $100 for my driver.
Him- That's a bit much. How about I give you $50 and no hard feelings?
Her- (Unhappy but being reasonable) Sure. That will cover it.
Him- Here, thanks anyways.
Her- Goodbye.
Totes a generic situation - and requires both parties to not get offended, keep their cool, AND be reasonable. Eh, some will say it won't ever happen, but it does. Rip away.
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Ze,
If I'm not mistaken, that's basically what happened! She still got the money, which she didn't deserve! #justsayin
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04-25-2017, 01:42 PM
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Just a girl in the world.
User ID: 444
Join Date: Apr 1, 2009
Location: Worldwide
Posts: 3,915
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Except that isn't what happened.
She LIED to the guy, took his money and ran. She wasn't upfront, honest, or nice about anything.
If she HAD been gentle, honest and reasonable, I am pretty sure there wouldn't have been an alert on her about it.
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04-25-2017, 04:48 PM
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#43
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Feb 24, 2014
Location: Dallas
Posts: 586
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Considering some ladies charge $100 for BNG, it's a little steep to pay that to someone because I'm too fat to fuck and she wants to leave. Would I have paid it? Probably. But I would have also informed everyone as the guy did. We're paying a lot of money because most of us aren't George Clooney look alikes. This is part of the job hazard. If you're that sensitive to it, you should advertise that or screen better. Personally, I always tell the ladies I'm overweight, and scheduling has never been a problem.
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04-25-2017, 04:55 PM
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Valued Poster
Join Date: Jan 28, 2010
Location: Dallas TX
Posts: 15,482
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Originally Posted by ~Ze~
If she HAD been gentle, honest and reasonable, I am pretty sure there wouldn't have been an alert on her about it.
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Try reasoning with a starving money hungry whore that believes they should get paid just because they were born with a pussy
Some women just don't get it in here, You give good service, guys hear about it in here and more will come visit BUT! If you're a shady scammer, the phone stops ringing once the word gets around.
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04-25-2017, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Jun 29, 2015
Location: My Imagination
Posts: 3,872
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Originally Posted by ~Ze~
If a fella is so large you can't push his gut up to give him head, for fucks sake don't say it in those words. -_-
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I'm almost embarrassed of how sexy I find this statement.
Saw an ad or thread with your digital socks before, that's beyond hot...yeah, I'm nerdy like that.
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