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Old 06-19-2014, 01:54 PM   #31
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If this is what someone wants to do, so be it. I may disagree with their choices but its their choice. I feel the risk is too high. I work off the knowledge I have, Once I know something I react accordingly. To me, someone who openly engages in high risk behavior may also be engaging in other high risk behavior. I accept risk as a price of participating in this hobby. And I do the best I can to manage those risks. I would prefer to see them openly state their willingness than not. Though I disagree with their choice I am not slamming the women who are posting theses ads.
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<------ that guy.

Every provider barebacks someone. Use a condom and assume they're all doing it. Why do you care?

Everyone has a limit. Most people would say engaging with hookers is extremely unsafe and crazy. You obviously don't care what everyone thinks and dangerously cross that line (as do I and everyone here). So tired of the BB threads and the guys who profess they will not see a lady who barebacks (some qualify it by saying openly barebacks, probably in some cases because they get "special" treatment by their ATF's). BB is part of the lifestyle for some. Take note, use protection, and move on. Don't have to crucify those people or force your opinion on them. I know it's PC to chastise those practices. I'm just tired of seeing it.
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Old 06-19-2014, 01:57 PM   #32
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Methinks its the PoPo . . . just saying'

10 posts (fishing expeditions), no reviews, trading on BBFS and YOUNG . . . hmmmmmmm

One wonders if anyone will admit to seeing her, WITH a cover OF COURSE? (Besides the Vice Squad)
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:06 PM   #33
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Someone had to have vouched for her in order to get VP status.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:19 PM   #34
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Not really.

1. website address (your website or advertising site)
2. referral from another provider or hobbyist
3. links to reviews from recognized members (any site)

Any combination of the above requirements which will sufficiently establish you as a legit provider will be accepted.

And, she could have changed her menu or decided to be more open after getting verified. Or if someone did vouch for her, maybe he likes BBFS.

All vouched means is she met the above requirements. Nothing more or less.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:20 PM   #35
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Someone had to have vouched for her in order to get VP status.
Yes, you are probably right. However, it is pretty easy to become a verified provider even without the voucher.

Did it ever occur to you that there are probably several guys on here who have a number of reviews who are also UC? Since Eccie does not verify reviews before or after they are posted, then one can get a review history and then vouch for the said provider by writing said fake review, which is just one of the ways to start down the path of getting her VP status.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:26 PM   #36
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Someone had to have vouched for her in order to get VP status.
Grace, there are some pretty big gaps in the VP process as I've copied below (my comments in RED:

1. link to their website Anyone can copy and change an existing website . . . the scam of "fishing" uses this a lot! They make lookalike bank websites . . . a fake escort site is easy peasy
2. referral from another provider or hobbyist such as a provider/hobbyist who has been arrested and is working on a "deal"?
3. links to reviews from recognized members (any site) Same as above. What is a hobbyist with a lot to lose (security clearance, marriage, kids, business) willing to do to make it "go away".

PoPo has an extensive and professional IT department . . . ANY of the above conditions are easy to achieve unfortunately and I'm betting the Mods probably don't/can't investigate to sufficient depth to make it impossible to stop it from happening. Not a Mod slam, just an unfortunate fact of life.

Y'all be careful out there!
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:31 PM   #37
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Listen to David, he knows a great deal about some of this stuff.
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Yes, you are probably right. However, it is pretty easy to become a verified provider even without the voucher.

Did it ever occur to you that there are probably several guys on here who have a number of reviews who are also UC? Since Eccie does not verify reviews before or after they are posted, then one can get a review history and then vouch for the said provider by writing said fake review, which is just one of the ways to start down the path of getting her VP status.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:31 PM   #38
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Yes, I too agree... much too risky,and really unbelievable that she would:

A. Put the bbfs offer in an ad!
B. Put her exact location in an ad!

My only thought was ... "what is she thinking?"
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:33 PM   #39
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Methinks its the PoPo . . . just saying'

10 posts (fishing expeditions), no reviews, trading on BBFS and YOUNG . . . hmmmmmmm

One wonders if anyone will admit to seeing her, WITH a cover OF COURSE? (Besides the Vice Squad)

Look how long it's been since her last post whose to say she didn't get popped and they retrieved all her info? I would be very careful to anyone who would even contact her. That motel is a very hot sting location as well.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:40 PM   #40
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I'd be more inclined to think she was once a legit provider whose account has been turned. That is my first assumption.
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Old 06-19-2014, 02:44 PM   #41
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I'd be more inclined to think she was once a legit provider whose account has been turned. That is my first assumption.
Could be right for sure . . . anyway you cut it, not a good.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:17 PM   #42
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Or worse, MSNBC. They play those reruns foreverrrr.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:29 PM   #43
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If this is what someone wants to do, so be it. I may disagree with their choices but its their choice. I feel the risk is too high. I work off the knowledge I have, Once I know something I react accordingly. To me, someone who openly engages in high risk behavior may also be engaging in other high risk behavior. I accept risk as a price of participating in this hobby. And I do the best I can to manage those risks. I would prefer to see them openly state their willingness than not. Though I disagree with their choice I am not slamming the women who are posting theses ads.
You know, I totally agree with your comments and those of DBD. And you've found your acceptable level of risk. To be honest, mine is probably close to yours. I would never BB in the hobby. But I probably would see a lady that has if I fancy her. That's my line. The point is that everyone has a line. We're all doing something immoral and risky and I just don't like the fact some people think the line is at whatever they value. Plus, just because people don't advertise, they still BB someone and have an inherent risk. As THN put it. Six degrees of Kevin Bacon probably means you've come in contact with something risky.
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Old 06-19-2014, 03:54 PM   #44
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I'm not as concerned with a persons choices in private, I'm more concerned with what causes them to make these choices.

It they just want the quick buck, awesome. There are plenty of places to be tested for free. Tons of working girls and clients who play it all "by the book" don't get tested like they should be. Really, what's the difference...
I just always wonder, does this person have something and they just want to get back at the world? Is there someone forcing them to do this?

Sometimes it's hard for me to step back and realize that I can't save the world. I went to college and wanted to do social work. After dedicating a lot of time and paying a lot of money, I came to the tough decision that I just cannot handle it.

If this girl is in a bad spot, I hope she gets herself to a good spot. If this girl wants the quick buck, I wish she knew there are other ways to do it, but.. I hope she at least cares about herself and others to get tested frequently.
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Old 06-19-2014, 04:02 PM   #45
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HottNurse....you're a cool nut!! lol

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