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Yssup Rider · 12-22-2012, 01:08 AM

yeah, that's just what he said.

WTF · 12-22-2012, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

So now we see that WTF is in favor of killing children (from a post from yesterday) and now he is in favor of gutting the military and knows that the GOP will be blamed though he knows that it was Obama to blame. WTF is the master of lies and a real POS.

First that is not wtf I said about students you teach. I said if they have to listen to your humor, they would all probably shoot themselves.

Yes, I am in favor of either paying higher taxes for the military spending that we want or gutting it. The spending problem is the military. SS and Medicare ran a surplus for decades. It is the military that we have not taxed correctly for, we have taxed way less than wtf we spend on Defense.

Yes if taxes go up on everyone, the Tea Party will be blamed. Obama is in a sweet spot. The GOP will wind up raising taxes on people say making over 400k. If they are stupid enough to not make a deal before all taxes rise, it will hurt them in the mid term badly.

Guest040616 · 12-22-2012, 06:34 AM

An article from CNN on what the recent failure on Plan B means for Boehner.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/21/politi...html?hpt=hp_t1

i'va biggen · 12-22-2012, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The lies started with the first post on this thread. Want to know something else. Boehner was going to raise taxes on people making over a million dollars a year giving Obama a tax increase. The White House just announced that the GOP was going to raise taxes on the middle class with this bill. Remember Obama has announced that he wants to raise taxes on people making over $250 thousand and Boehner was going to give him taxes on over $1 million dollars so how can Obama claim that Boehner was going to raise taxes on the middle class??? This should indicate to the most obtuse that Obama has been lying from the beginning, that he wants no deal, he wants to blame a tax increase on the House GOP, and that Obama is a shit.

Markie, quit lying. "most" of the rich did not say that they want to pay more taxes. Even your liberal rich are trying to get out of paying taxes. Buffet, Gates, Google are all moving money around to avoid taxes.

Also I don't think you understand mandate. More votes were cast for the GOP in Congress than were cast for Obama. Obama got millions less votes than he did in 2008. Almost half the voters didn't vote so there is no mandate.

Don't know where you get your news.The news I got he was speaking and said if the republicans can't come to agreement on the bill it will raise taxes on the middle class.

Laz · 12-22-2012, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by WTF

Yes if taxes go up on everyone, the Tea Party will be blamed. Obama is in a sweet spot. The GOP will wind up raising taxes on people say making over 400k. If they are stupid enough to not make a deal before all taxes rise, it will hurt them in the mid term badly.

Sadly, that is probably true. It would probably be smarter for them to allow Obama his tax increase and then hold the line on any debt increases or spending bills to force spending reductions.

Chica Chaser · 12-22-2012, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by WTF

Yes if taxes go up on everyone, the Tea Party will be blamed. Obama is in a sweet spot. The GOP will wind up raising taxes on people say making over 400k. If they are stupid enough to not make a deal before all taxes rise, it will hurt them in the mid term badly.

And all the spending cuts pending (outside of the military) will hurt the dems equally. Theres something for everyone. I love it too....let it go over the cliff!

WTF · 12-22-2012, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chica Chaser

And all the spending cuts pending (outside of the military) will hurt the dems equally. Theres something for everyone. I love it too....let it go over the cliff!

The cliff is only 4.2 Trillion, it needs to be around 6.

I hope they run and jump off together, holding hands!

Everybody needs to pay more in taxes to get this debt down and we need to reduce spending. It should be done slowly but if they can't make a reasoned deal , then jump mutherfuckers!

Roothead · 12-22-2012, 10:16 PM

interesting interview on NPR (all things considered) this AM.... not sure who on the show, but the net-net was that the person was saying that the President should let things go off the clift.... the way the legislation is written, the cuts/tax increases begin in the new year, but only at small levels.... so in early Jan there is still time to retroactively legislate them away.... but by going off the cliff, the President will prevail and the Redumblicans will get hammered even more....the in-fighting will go postal and the party will further self destruct

CuteOldGuy · 12-22-2012, 10:21 PM

That's exactly what will happen, Rooty. Obama is playing the Republicans like a cheap fiddle.

Guest040616 · 12-23-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

That's exactly what will happen, Rooty. Obama is playing the Republicans like a cheap fiddle.

That's because the Republicants are as worthless as a cheap fiddle.

CuteOldGuy · 12-23-2012, 02:00 PM

Well, you finally got one right, BigTurd.

Seedy · 12-23-2012, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by bigtex

That's because the Republicants are as worthless as a cheap fiddle.

And the demococksuckers are NO GOD DAMN BETTER. Son of a bitch i fucking can't stand a politician. They are all as worthless as a dog with two assholes....

Guest040616 · 12-23-2012, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Well, you finally got one right, BigTurd.

StupidOldFart, I am not always right but from my perspective it is much better to be wrong occasionally than to be known as a compulsive liar!

CuteOldGuy · 12-23-2012, 02:22 PM

You keep bringing up these lies, BigTurd, but you never quote one. I think you are the liar, that is, if you understood anything.

Guest040616 · 12-23-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

You keep bringing up these lies, BigTurd, but you never quote one. I think you are the liar, that is, if you understood anything.

I see where StupidOldFart is coming from. When compulsive lying doesn't actually occur in his last post than it is just like it never happened.

I get it now, StupidOldFart is of the opinion that his honesty, or lack thereof, should be based exclusively on his last post!

How convenient!