Arkansas meet and greets?

[Hogfan69]

I've probably told it before but there's a ton of new people since.

I've been to one meet and greet here. It was in a huge hotel corner room that was one of the larger conference room types and had a bedroom attached. No activities were allowed in that room. I know at least one adjacent room was booked for fun but can't remember the other. Most people were just dressed normally. I was nervous as hell because I'm shy in groups of people I don't know. Thankfully Mandy and Tori were both there and we'd seen each other a few times so they helped. A hog fb game was on in the living room so it helped break the ice. There was a lot of liquor and some treats. A few of the guys already had done this before and they were used to being around each other already. There were all types of people there but they were just regular guys. When I left one girl asked me to walk out with her to her car and it just was just as normal as a civilian experience.

I'm pretty sure the only ones there that may still be around are scruffy and Mr Happy. Grip was there. BD was there. I couldn't tell you what any of them looked like. You had to be invited and Mandy got me that and only those people knew where it was. It was the one and only time I saw Pamela in person and I've always regretted I never got to play with that rack since. I saw a girl there named Holly that I had never been interested in from her ads but when I saw her in person I eventually had to call her and we got together. She soon disappeared so that was a benefit of it.

If you run into someone you know, are they going to go around saying they ran into you at a provider party?

All in all I was a nervous wreck going in and I had a lot of fun. I'm not sure that it can be repeated or that I'd do it without knowing a provider there already. If sexy_brittany was around this would be something she'd probably fit right in with. It does help bring a sense of community and that's always a good thing.

[BBWDeAnna]

BD..there was a right of passage if he saw you..

And GRIP..there is a blast from the past..i believe either an avid follower of..or quite possibly founding father of the "rule of 100"?..

Btw..im not saying it can not be done..i just debate with the current crew if its wise to do it..considering we have people legit concerned abouy being outed and such in a community we are suppose to feel safe in.

But glad someone comes in and says what needed to be..who the hell is gonna snitch that they met u at a provider party

Originally Posted by Hogfan69

I've probably told it before but there's a ton of new people since.

I've been to one meet and greet here. It was in a huge hotel corner room that was one of the larger conference room types and had a bedroom attached. No activities were allowed in that room. I know at least one adjacent room was booked for fun but can't remember the other. Most people were just dressed normally. I was nervous as hell because I'm shy in groups of people I don't know. Thankfully Mandy and Tori were both there and we'd seen each other a few times so they helped. A hog fb game was on in the living room so it helped break the ice. There was a lot of liquor and some treats. A few of the guys already had done this before and they were used to being around each other already. There were all types of people there but they were just regular guys. When I left one girl asked me to walk out with her to her car and it just was just as normal as a civilian experience.

I'm pretty sure the only ones there that may still be around are scruffy and Mr Happy. Grip was there. BD was there. I couldn't tell you what any of them looked like. You had to be invited and Mandy got me that and only those people knew where it was. It was the one and only time I saw Pamela in person and I've always regretted I never got to play with that rack since. I saw a girl there named Holly that I had never been interested in from her ads but when I saw her in person I eventually had to call her and we got together. She soon disappeared so that was a benefit of it.

If you run into someone you know, are they going to go around saying they ran into you at a provider party?

All in all I was a nervous wreck going in and I had a lot of fun. I'm not sure that it can be repeated or that I'd do it without knowing a provider there already. If sexy_brittany was around this would be something she'd probably fit right in with. It does help bring a sense of community and that's always a good thing.

[BBWDeAnna]

Well son of a bitch he does exist..CK!!!

The man threw a well organized event i was able to attend in austin back in 2004/2005..maybe 06 its been to long..as DeAnn Luv

And then was lucky enough to be invited to the San Antonio one..good times with well mannered hobbyist in a safe atmosphere by guys that worked hard..

Good to see you around..as far as socials go..he is the authority haha

Originally Posted by ck1942

Apparently my ears were burning just a bit, due to the very interesting discussions above.

Speaking of the Houston bust (which was more political in nature than LEOs per se) December 7, 2009 was not the most pleasant event I have ever attended, but here's some clarification.

Of the more than 200 people who attended (yes 200+!) the Houston Xmas gathering, there were roughly only 100 or so present when vice came in at the 8:30 p.m. when we made "last call" and separated 15 people and lined them up at the DJ booth. 12 were taken "downtown" on various complaints, of which 4 or 5 ladies were departed for no green cards, several gents and ladies were charged with the P and one lady served 22 days for outstanding traffic warrants.

We had used the venue, an after hours club, for several months and the club would allow us to enter for a few hours prior to its regular opening. Then close and reopen after a clean up.

The club ran the door, supposedly admitting our guests only according to our guest list.

Due to the local Houston political situation, the then current chief of police decided to try to make an example of us happy people who had been meeting and greeting several years with no incidents and, for that matter ZERO P4P or P4P discussion allowed at events.

Vice threatened the club's liquor license and the club rolled over and allowed some UCs to come in and they talked P4P with a number of the guests and isolated the 15 mentioned above.

So that was the end of the Houston string of events that had been on-going since early 2000s.

We were totally sold out by the venue protecting its main business.

= = = = =

Meanwhile, while Yellie (who, btw, is a well known provider back in Texas) has yet to make much impact in Arkansas, she perhaps sdipping in a toe and not jumping into the social pool possibilities.

I've counseled her to be very low key, shoot for something maybe in the late Spring, and get to know more of the folks hereabouts before trying to firm anything up (well, she can well "firm" me up -- she has skeeelz!) in the local area.

And, btw, if any of y'all are ever visiting in the Austin/San Antonio hereabouts, think about meeting and greeting with some very friendly Texas folks.

[Hogfan69]

Originally Posted by BBWDeAnna

Right environment it can be done successfully..arkansas sadly right now is not that environment..the last times they really made an effort to host a legit M&G it desolved into a drunken party that drew to much unneeded attention with a provider flashing a pizza delivery guy blah blah blah..funny if your a college fool..not so much when its adults trying to be on the DL.

That's the one I was referring to and that's when girl that wanted an escort and I decided to leave. A young kid wandered into the open door and went straight to the naked lady cake on the big table and his mom came running in and saw the decor and yanked him out.

And from what a I remember, there was a mini-orgy next door. It would have to be a lot more strict on the behavior.

[Dj1981]

Hell, id possibly be down. I have nothing to hide from anybody. I know i wont run into anybody i know in my day to day life.

[bluffcityguy]

Originally Posted by ck1942

Speaking of the Houston bust (which was more political in nature than LEOs per se) December 7, 2009 was not the most pleasant event I have ever attended, but here's some clarification.

I was misremembering a bit. (But we're talking 8 years ago, and I'm old and getting senile, so cut me some slack! )

Thanks for the clarification.

Cheers,

bcg

[Johnnytricks]

I probably would attend one.Not worried about seeing someone I might know.i mean be like oh you got the same hobby.you could always invoke the Fight Club rule.lol

[BK]

I was just joking about the orgy comment.

I’ve seen all the women off here I had interest in meeting or plan to soon anyway. I prefer the illusion of the fantasy they all think I’m awesome and being around them in a social setting and not being the center of their attention would bother me. Meet n greets are great for social butterflies, I am not one of those.

[B2driver]

Well folks, you have stirred up a number of memories with this string - and since Nurse Ratchet left her computer unlocked here at the home, please allow me to weigh in.

We had some success with the M&G concept in AR - but that was a different place and time. Some were held at local drinking establishments and others in hotel suites. They were patterned after the ones in TX, as CK so eloquently explained. Key element for attendance was the vetting. Tough to do, but when done successfully, the M&G can work.

Hogfan, my memory of the one you described follows yours quite closely, although my take on the pizza delivery was a bit different than DeAnna's. If memory serves, that was the last really organized get-together around here. [Either that or the meds from Ratchet started kicking in about that time!].

Unfortunately, things have changed sufficiently - both society and local hobby participants - that the task to pull one off now is much more difficult. Its a matter of risk vs reward.

DeAnna - thanks for resurrecting BD and Grip. BD was, in fact, a right of passage for all of us!! And Grip, well what can one say?! I do believe you are correct on Grip being the father of the "Rule of 100." Had lost that in the ether - thanks for the reminder. Mr Happy? - He managed to put a smile on a number of faces during his tenure and had great organizational skills.

And I guess that's my point. Different personalities with different goals in mind can pull it off. But back then, we were a much tighter-knit "family" than I see currently on the boards. Still, we started small, followed with small steps, and shut it down before it got too far down the road - and that might work. Again, its a matter of risk vs reward and each of use has our own threshold.

Thanks for letting me toss my @0.02 into the pot. Now I'll let Ratchet have her terminal back. Now where did I leave that bottle of geritol.......

B2

[ck1942]

No harm. Just wanted to set the record straight. Not sure that I am "the authority" but I am one of multiple organizers for many events.

The string of successes in Texas has always relied on "discretion" and solid respect for the rules, be the event in a public, semi-public, semi-private or totally private venue. I have organized and hosted all of the those, and, fwiw, some very discreet and fully "functioning" events we called "Night at the movies" once upon a time.

I also know of (and have attended more than a few) p4p type events. But really not my cuppa tea these days, and not so much since I am security-conscious.

Just my choice that p4p type events may have a tendency to backfire or cause undue attention at the civic level, so much better (imho) to let others assume those risks.

Quite frankly, aside from the unfortunate occurrence when and if you run into a "civilian" who knows you in the RW, the elements of risk at a no p4p event are fairly low, but, of course, each of us must assess his/her own security risk levels.

Happy Hobbying Always!

[stanleedies]

Originally Posted by BBWDeAnna

Im new around here...so far be it from me to try and come off as an expert..

That's some funny ass sh!t. New around here...wtf ever.

Yellie perhaps be better served to do private meet and greets. Small 2 person group session...

[Italianbeauty4u]

Things are done differently around here. This is not a club it's a place for people to give opinions on experiences they have had..its not a brotherhood or comradery with each other. From some of the discussions I've seen on here it could turn into an all out brawl if put together in one room! Lol Most, if not all, need and want total discretion on both sides. If I were to do it the people coming would have to be members for a long time and a waiver/agreement signed at the door that nothing that happened would leave that place and all phones and electronics would be checked and put in a safe or something and they could pick up on the way out. Most older providers and hobbyist have seen each other over the years so I don't see that as a problem because your identity has already been revealed through business encounters and it wouldn't be any more risky than seeing each other at a store or restaurant or something.

Now as far as other hobbyist seeing other hobbyist at this shindig, I don't see why that would be a problem because I seriously doubt whoever saw you would ever mention it because they then would have to explain why the hell they were there too!!

I say give it a try and see what happens..you never know until you try!

Merry Christmas all!

[BBWDeAnna]

Glad you liked that im nothing if im not modest and funny

Originally Posted by stanleedies

That's some funny ass sh!t. New around here...wtf ever.

Yellie perhaps be better served to do private meet and greets. Small 2 person group session...

[BBWDeAnna]

B2..glad to see you still around..dont sell yourself short.."back in the day" a date with b2 ment you had arrived as well..maybe not BD level..but....

And i wont say im 100% accurate on my recollection of the pizza incident..i would defer to those that were there.

You are correct the arkansas hobby scene is quite different these days. No matter what..way back when we were close knit.. GRIP gave me more hell than i can remember with board banter back and forth.. but no one ever felt unsafe..thats why a social was successful..trust

Does anyone else recall that Arkansas circa 1999-2005 was a pretty popular hobby tour spot..it was not unheard of to get some pretty popular texas ladies visiting here, texarkana and Shreveport as a little tour circuit. East texas ladies.dallas etc.. unfortunately these days the troublemakers have put a stop to that

None the less..socials are difficult to pull off anytime anywhere..much less in an environment subject to so much drama and untrustworthy..dare i say..downright childish behavior...

I wish those luck that want to have 1..i would say tread carefully and think twice about those on the invite list perceived as trustworthy experienced people.they dont always have yours or the communities best interest at heart

Originally Posted by B2driver

Well folks, you have stirred up a number of memories with this string - and since Nurse Ratchet left her computer unlocked here at the home, please allow me to weigh in.

We had some success with the M&G concept in AR - but that was a different place and time. Some were held at local drinking establishments and others in hotel suites. They were patterned after the ones in TX, as CK so eloquently explained. Key element for attendance was the vetting. Tough to do, but when done successfully, the M&G can work.

Hogfan, my memory of the one you described follows yours quite closely, although my take on the pizza delivery was a bit different than DeAnna's. If memory serves, that was the last really organized get-together around here. [Either that or the meds from Ratchet started kicking in about that time!].

Unfortunately, things have changed sufficiently - both society and local hobby participants - that the task to pull one off now is much more difficult. Its a matter of risk vs reward.

DeAnna - thanks for resurrecting BD and Grip. BD was, in fact, a right of passage for all of us!! And Grip, well what can one say?! I do believe you are correct on Grip being the father of the "Rule of 100." Had lost that in the ether - thanks for the reminder. Mr Happy? - He managed to put a smile on a number of faces during his tenure and had great organizational skills.

And I guess that's my point. Different personalities with different goals in mind can pull it off. But back then, we were a much tighter-knit "family" than I see currently on the boards. Still, we started small, followed with small steps, and shut it down before it got too far down the road - and that might work. Again, its a matter of risk vs reward and each of use has our own threshold.

Thanks for letting me toss my @0.02 into the pot. Now I'll let Ratchet have her terminal back. Now where did I leave that bottle of geritol.......

B2

[olddudenow]

Originally Posted by ck1942

No harm. Just wanted to set the record straight. Not sure that I am "the authority" but I am one of multiple organizers for many events.

The string of successes in Texas has always relied on "discretion" and solid respect for the rules, be the event in a public, semi-public, semi-private or totally private venue. I have organized and hosted all of the those, and, fwiw, some very discreet and fully "functioning" events we called "Night at the movies" once upon a time.

I also know of (and have attended more than a few) p4p type events. But really not my cuppa tea these days, and not so much since I am security-conscious.

Just my choice that p4p type events may have a tendency to backfire or cause undue attention at the civic level, so much better (imho) to let others assume those risks.

Quite frankly, aside from the unfortunate occurrence when and if you run into a "civilian" who knows you in the RW, the elements of risk at a no p4p event are fairly low, but, of course, each of us must assess his/her own security risk levels.

Happy Hobbying Always!

Hi folks. I’m just passing thru LR and logged on to the site. My counterpart above has pretty much hit the nail on the head with his comments. I’ve organized dozens of socials as we call them, in Oklahoma City. Always just lunch and in a separate private dining area in a local restaurant which changes with every social so as not to have back to back party’s at the same place. Not designed to do any playtime, but rather allows gents to meet multiple providers and to be met to ease the screening process and generate appointments hopefully. I can only remember one time in all these I’ve done that a gent said I know that guy over there RW, and my reply is that guy is here in the hobby for the same thing you are. Likely for different reasons, but still the same end result. I also don’t want to cause anyone to lessen their security level. I have a provider co organizer that has very good screening procedures to assist me with the gents guest list to allow us to invite known safe members. We’ve never had any issues as we keep them off the boards until after the Social has occurred. Thanks for letting me bend your ear some, have a great holiday everyone.