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Guest041316 · 10-04-2013, 03:54 PM

So why are you even bothering replying if the only tone you can take is one of a condescending nature?

I recall now why we did not play well together in the past either.

Guest041316 · 10-04-2013, 03:58 PM

Yes Dove, I do get it. I get that it is not a clean bill. I also get that it is being used as an excuse.

Doove · 10-04-2013, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by MissCallieYork

We are in this shut down because we have a standoff over Obamacare, which is designed supposedly to help those that truly need the most help with healthcare..... meanwhile, the healthcare that WIC provides, nutrients to our most helpless, our unborn and babies, has been halted, which will effect their health.... how does this make any sense at all??????

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Originally Posted by MissCallieYork

This shut down is not in reality about Obamacare, aka; the affordable care act, it is about the fiscal budget for 2014

You really need to make up your mind what it is you're so upset about. And let's not forget, your initial post in this thread, seemingly your reason for starting it, has been totally obliterated.

Perhaps you should have quit while you were only a few miles behind.

Guest041316 · 10-04-2013, 04:18 PM

Actually the start of the posting was about FEMA, which I admitted I had mistakingly read. When it read recall, I thought that they had meant, recalled them FROM the coast because of the shutdown. Not recalled them to come to the coast.

Why did I state it is about Obamacare? Because that is why Obama is holding out. He has made it very, very clear, that under no circumstances would he allow for his Affordable Health Care act not to be enacted.

Why do I also state it is not about Obamacare, aka The Affordable Health Care act? Because for the rest of our, ahem, esteemed leaders, it's about the fiscal budget. The one Obama dragged his feet on.

There are two sides to every coin, seeing that we are dealing with several factors, and many people, all with their own agendas, it is, and it isn't about Obamacare.

Obamas concern has always been only about Obama care and making it his legacy.

WTF · 10-04-2013, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MissCallieYork

Yes Dove, I do get it. I get that it is not a clean bill. I also get that it is being used as an excuse.

MissCaklie this is about ted cruz firing up his base and getting ready for Iowa. It is totally about Obama care in so far as that is wtf fires up the right wing base. You do reakize thay Obama is not running for reelection so as much as you would like to blame him he is a secondary figure in this. I could get a bit deeper and explain that gerrymandering has more to do with this than anything else. Kinda of a perfect storm type thing.
Could you please compliment wakeup once again just in case OH reads this.

Doove · 10-04-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MissCallieYork

There are two sides to every coin, seeing that we are dealing with several factors, and many people, all with their own agendas, it is, and it isn't about Obamacare.

Obamas concern has always been only about Obama care and making it his legacy.

So if the Democrats and Obama agreed to fully de-fund Obamacare, even repeal the frickin' thing, you're saying there would still be other issues that would need to be ironed out?

Is that what you're saying? Yes or no?

CJ7 · 10-04-2013, 04:28 PM

the budget Obama drug his feet on

hhhahahahahahahahahaha

the budget the Senate (Obama to you) passed 8 months ago and the House ( not Obama to you) refused to even LOOK at 18 consecutive times before they shutdown the government ... that budget???

yeah, I don't play well , I use facts ... I'm not politically correct either, I still call Sanitation Engineers, garbage men too

annnnnnd

I'm out of this one.

Guest041316 · 10-04-2013, 04:49 PM

C7J, you don't play well. You like to twist things, and thats just you. Always has been. The change of the guards (board) didn't alter that.

I am also done. I have no desire to hash out anything with anyone. One thing I have learned along life's path is this, it's the easier path to talk down to others when you have a superiority complex then it is to actually just talk WITH them. When you talk WITH them then it means you have to be open to opposing views, which clearly is not the case here.

LOL, WTF, yes, Wakeup, woke me up and since he talked with me he was able to open my eyes and see my mistake.

Doove · 10-04-2013, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MissCallieYork

I am also done. I have no desire to hash out anything with anyone.

In other words, you've run out of knots in which to twist yourself.

Wakeup · 10-04-2013, 04:58 PM

Did a whore just call me "empathetic and open minded"? Did a trick just call me a WK? I fucking LOVE this place! I don't know her from a knothole in a tree. I'm just so NOT overcome with the urge to fight over who's fault the shutdown is that I can think logically about the validity of the original premise...

Might be a lesson for our elected officials and the public both...

Y'all have no idea...I don't take sides...I'm my own side, that's why I came here asking a question...learn from it...

WTF · 10-04-2013, 06:20 PM

You hear that folks? Kneel at the knowledge of empathy that is wakeup!

Jewish Lawyer · 10-04-2013, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MissCallieYork

C7J, you don't play well. You like to twist things, and thats just you. Always has been. The change of the guards (board) didn't alter that.

I am also done. I have no desire to hash out anything with anyone. One thing I have learned along life's path is this, it's the easier path to talk down to others when you have a superiority complex then it is to actually just talk WITH them. When you talk WITH them then it means you have to be open to opposing views, which clearly is not the case here.

LOL, WTF, yes, Wakeup, woke me up and since he talked with me he was able to open my eyes and see my mistake.

Hey Callie, CJ is an asshole, he does just what you say - always bobbing and weaving like a cheap imitation of Muhammad Ali the boxer - the fucker.
BTW, I have given up on America, too. My advice is to move to another country and leave this liberal shithole!!!!

Yssup Rider · 10-04-2013, 07:26 PM

when are you leaving Goyishe Liar?

CuteOldGuy · 10-04-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chefnerd

By the same reasoning the House could try scheduling an up or down vote on the Senate bill it has.

Yes, they should.

Guest041316 · 10-04-2013, 10:17 PM

@Doove - No. I just prefer engaging in conversations with people, not being the target of a tag team, who both enjoy making partial quotes, then twisting words, so that they can feel like they beat the little lady down and show her their "manly side".

@Wakeup, no, a whore didn't call you empathetic and open minded. I did.

@Jewish Lawyer - Those are actually my plans in 3 years. I already have my sponsorship in place and am working on the rest of the country of my choices requirements to do so, ie; enough income in place prior to moving there to live for a year, obtaining a residency and the hardest one, which has been done, obtaining the sponsor

I don't want to be here when they finally put into place the National ID system, which thankfully New Hampshire and Wyoming have been able to shoot down so far, or any of the other long term plans they have for the citizens of this country. My Uncle actually lives in Tel Aviv, he was originally in the East for the peace talks, and decided he didn't want to come back here and that he was much happier in his new life there.

Every country has it's issues, but I want out of this one before I am told that I have lost that freedom to do so.