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12-26-2014, 09:37 PM
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"PEACHTREE CORNERS, Ga. (AP) — Georgia police say they’ve charged a man and his 23-year-old daughter with murder in the starvation death of an infant."
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Georgia now represents the entire world? wow. Ans starvation of an infant is representation of 94 million people dead by starvation? where they all infants?
SMH
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12-26-2014, 09:40 PM
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So your supposition is that atrocities are either committed by people who believe in a deity OR by people who don't? That's really profound.
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Nothing to do with depth. Read my previous messages.I said,more people were killed in the name of God (or it's non existence) than any other reason. I'm discussing murder. People die of starvation everyday without it being murder, they die for lack of health care too, Still, that's not murder.
As bad as it is.
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12-26-2014, 10:24 PM
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And what was your point bringing up the thread anyways? Ok- jews broke up a peaceful Christian demonstration- how does that compare to articles I can produce where Christians are threatened in much worst ways in muslim countries? Are Jews not discriminated against in "Christian" nations. Please tell us again the purpose or intent of this thread?
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His point of bringing it up is he is ant-Semitic
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12-26-2014, 10:58 PM
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Russia is no longer pure comunist, the chinese ia certainlgly not comunist anymore. Starvatition is not murder, as bad as it is.
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Originally Posted by Wheretonow
"PEACHTREE CORNERS, Ga. (AP) — Georgia police say they’ve charged a man and his 23-year-old daughter with murder in the starvation death of an infant."
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Georgia now represents the entire world? wow. Ans starvation of an infant is representation of 94 million people dead by starvation? where they all infants?
SMH
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Definition: Murder
"Murder occurs when one human being unlawfully kills another human being."
You stated that starvation is not murder, when, under certain circumstances it plainly is. Plainly is, of course, to people fluent in English in this case.
I initially tried to give an instance where someone was charged with murder for starving another human being. Sorry if that was too obtuse for you to comprehend.
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12-26-2014, 11:05 PM
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Nothing to do with depth. Read my previous messages.I said,more people were killed in the name of God (or it's non existence) than any other reason. I'm discussing murder. People die of starvation everyday without it being murder, they die for lack of health care too, Still, that's not murder.
As bad as it is.
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What determines if an act is murder is intent. The method one chooses is irrelevant. Hitler liked gas chambers. Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. weren't that particular about the means used.
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12-26-2014, 11:28 PM
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God bless Israel, our only friend in the middle east.
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oh lord
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12-27-2014, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Wheretonow
Definition: Murder
"Murder occurs when one human being unlawfully kills another human being."
You stated that starvation is not murder, when, under certain circumstances it plainly is. Plainly is, of course, to people fluent in English in this case.
I initially tried to give an instance where someone was charged with murder for starving another human being. Sorry if that was too obtuse for you to comprehend.
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Do you have any ewvidence that the 80+ million people died of starvation due their goiverment purposively starving the people?
Evidence shows just that comunism is a very inefficient means of wealth creation. That is not murder, it is stupidity.
Youre funny. Rather than discuss merits , you attack other people's intellugence. You would be reaaly surprised if you met me in real life.
Obtuse is, obsptuse does.
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12-27-2014, 08:26 AM
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What determines if an act is murder is intent. The method one chooses is irrelevant. Hitler liked gas chambers. Stalin, Pol Pot, etc. weren't that particular about the means used.
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By your logic, libertarians are murderers for denying health care to poor people.
I dont think they are murderes. They are just stupid egoists fucks, not murderes.
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12-27-2014, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Luke Skywalker
Do you have any ewvidence that the 80+ million people died of starvation due their goiverment purposively starving the people?
Evidence shows just that comunism is a very inefficient means of wealth creation. That is not murder, it is stupidity.
Youre funny. Rather than discuss merits , you attack other people's intellugence. You would be reaaly surprised if you met me in real life.
Obtuse is, obsptuse does.
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And rather than provide any kind of evidence to support your claim (that more people were killed for religious/nonreligious reasons), you come up with idiotic counter definitions for words that have valid, widely accepted meanings.
Where's your data to back up your assertions? Genghis Khan killed 40 million people, about 11% of the world's population at the time, and there's no record that any of them were killed for religious reasons.
Add that to Hitler's and Stalin's totals and you're going to have to find a bunch of religious-related deaths to support your contention. I'm looking forward to the results of your research.
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12-27-2014, 08:47 AM
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By your logic, libertarians are murderers for denying health care to poor people.
I dont think they are murderes. They are just stupid egoists fucks, not murderes.
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No, by my logic (and the very definition of the word, "murder"), if I kill you and I intended to kill you, it's murder. Not sure why you're not able to grasp the concept.
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12-27-2014, 08:50 AM
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I think it is you didnt grasp my concept. Go ahead and have the last word. Im not going to waste my neurons with you.
Have a ball.
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12-27-2014, 09:01 AM
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I think it is you didnt grasp my concept. Go ahead and have the last word. Im not going to waste my neurons with you.
Have a ball.
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Happy New Year
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12-27-2014, 09:21 AM
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A breakdown of the numbers killed by Communist regimes:
65 million in the People's Republic of China
20 million in the Soviet Union
2 million in Cambodia
2 million in North Korea
1.7 million in Ethiopia
1.5 million in Afghanistan
1 million in the Communist states of Eastern Europe
1 million in Vietnam
150,000 in Latin America mainly Cuba
10,000 deaths "resulting from actions of the international Communist movement and Communist parties not in power."
A totalitarian regime can exile people to areas where there is no food available. They can divert food away from people. Many died in forced labor camps. In cases, such as these, this is murder by starvation.
11% of Likely U.S. Voters think communism is morally superior to the U.S. system of politics and economics, according to a new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey.
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12-27-2014, 09:53 AM
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2,000 Palestinian civilians died in the last Gaza War this year. Over 500 were under 18.
But you guys did a great job of hijacking this thread to make it about something else it's not.
You people are saying "uhh look ISIS is doing bad stuff" when this thread has nothing to do with it. Also, if you're comparing a country to ISIS you're setting the bar pretty low.
My argument is "this is bad and shouldn't be tolerated anywhere"
Your argument is "Well other people do bad stuff so it's okay for Israel to bad stuff."
If I criticize the Israeli govt apparently that makes me anti-Israel but when you criticize our government doesn't that make you anti-American?
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12-27-2014, 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Trill Jackson
2,000 Palestinian civilians died in the last Gaza War this year. Over 500 were under 18.
But you guys did a great job of hijacking this thread to make it about something else it's not.
You people are saying "uhh look ISIS is doing bad stuff" when this thread has nothing to do with it. Also, if you're comparing a country to ISIS you're setting the bar pretty low.
My argument is "this is bad and shouldn't be tolerated anywhere"
Your argument is "Well other people do bad stuff so it's okay for Israel to bad stuff."
If I criticize the Israeli govt apparently that makes me anti-Israel but when you criticize our government doesn't that make you anti-American?
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But what the hell is your agenda? Do we think that the Isreali govt nothing does anything world and they are just angels? No! If I were to post videos of "peaceful" demonstrations being broken up- I could be here all day- heck their were "peaceful" demonstrations broken up all over the U.S in the past couple of months- heck past 30 days. If you think that posting those links will make the world think that the Isreali govt is some huge evil human rights violating country you will lose.
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