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10-11-2023, 10:08 AM
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So far, no one has addressed my question as to who actually the indigenous peoples of Europe.
Just reading around on Wikipedia, I found that the "indigenous Peoples" of America's northern plains were not the "Sioux" (Lakota . . whatever). In pre-contact times, the Sioux were a woodland people from the area north of Lake Superior. They were pushed west through violent confrontations with the Chippawa/Ojibway.
I couldn't find who were actually the "indigenous peoples" of the Southern Canadien and Northern American Planes.
DNA research shows that the Navaho peoples of the American Southwest actually migrated there from Athabaskan populations in Canada. They seem to have largely displaced the ancient Puebloan people in what is now Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado.
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10-11-2023, 10:24 AM
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That is correct. Before that they called them "Hey You!"
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"Hay You" is one of my pronouns!
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10-11-2023, 10:32 AM
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So far, no one has addressed my question as to who actually the indigenous peoples of Europe.
Just reading around on Wikipedia, I found that the "indigenous Peoples" of America's northern plains were not the "Sioux" (Lakota . . whatever). In pre-contact times, the Sioux were a woodland people from the area north of Lake Superior. They were pushed west through violent confrontations with the Chippawa/Ojibway.
I couldn't find who were actually the "indigenous peoples" of the Southern Canadien and Northern American Planes.
DNA research shows that the Navaho peoples of the American Southwest actually migrated there from Athabaskan populations in Canada. They seem to have largely displaced the ancient Puebloan people in what is now Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado.
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You’re making it way to complicated. Indigenous people are anyone who’s not white. Doesn’t matter how far their lineage goes back, great great great great great grandpa could’ve been the caption of The Mayflower, they’re less ‘indigenous’ than some kid who floated across the Rio Grand last week.
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10-11-2023, 09:02 PM
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10-13-2023, 04:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ICU 812
So far, no one has addressed my question as to who actually the indigenous peoples of Europe.
Just reading around on Wikipedia, I found that the "indigenous Peoples" of America's northern plains were not the "Sioux" (Lakota . . whatever). In pre-contact times, the Sioux were a woodland people from the area north of Lake Superior. They were pushed west through violent confrontations with the Chippawa/Ojibway.
I couldn't find who were actually the "indigenous peoples" of the Southern Canadien and Northern American Planes.
DNA research shows that the Navaho peoples of the American Southwest actually migrated there from Athabaskan populations in Canada. They seem to have largely displaced the ancient Puebloan people in what is now Arizona, New Mexico and Colorado.
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the indigenous peoples were the neanderthals who later interbred with homo sapiens who migrated into europe.
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10-13-2023, 07:02 AM
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the indigenous peoples were the neanderthals who later interbred with homo sapiens who migrated into europe.
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If that is the csse, then either way, the indigenous peoples of Europe were and are white folks.
What does mean in the context of the current, nearly in controlled, influx of people of color from other parts of the world?
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10-13-2023, 08:35 PM
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If that is the csse, then either way, the indigenous peoples of Europe were and are white folks.
What does mean in the context of the current, nearly in controlled, influx of people of color from other parts of the world?
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not necessarily... its conjecture. we really don't know for sure. even tho we have such samples, dna samples doesn't hold up too well age wise.
homo sapiens to start with were probably black or dark skinned as they were from africa. neanderthals were probably white as they lost their black/darkness melanin gene over a long period of time, I think about 200,000-300,000 years during the ice age period. its the gene that allows humans to produce vitamin d. blue eyes was probably a neanderthal trait.
you don't see blue eyes in dark/black skinned africans (not sure about red hair tho)
it would look strange to see a black skinned homo sapien with blue eyes and red hair in late ice age europe.
there are alot of assumptions on what the original homo sapiens and neanderthals looked like.
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10-14-2023, 04:48 AM
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And now we are off into tyhe weeds and out of concrete or provable examples.
Let me just say here that I have been to the Cairo Museum and I have seen many pictures on papyrus done by artists of the Pharaonic Age. They did not portray the contemporary Egyptians, of 4,500 years ago as "black"; not in color or physical appearance.
In the time of Alexnder the Gret and after, under the Ptolemies, Egypt became a multi-cultural and multi-ethnic society.
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10-14-2023, 06:47 AM
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Archeologists have found both Neanderthal and Homo Sapiens remains in the same areas and dated to the same time period, . .in places that are not in Africa. It seems that they were contemporary species that co-existed for ~50,00to 100,000 years or so.
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10-14-2023, 06:51 AM
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And again: We are way off into the speculative high grass on this.
I would ask the Mods/Admins to close this thread.
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10-14-2023, 10:32 PM
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Liked everyone's participation in thread. I yield to biomed whatever he decides for thread.
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