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Originally Posted by Missy Mariposa
I could have elaborated a bit more haha sorry I was pretty tired after driving 10 hours 
I was directly responding to this
I really feel that sums up the American People in GENERAL and has nothing to do with a political party. |
your explanation has me thinking.
a few months ago in here, in several rather vivid discussions, i was called stupid for thinking and voting against my "class" and against my "interests" by several of the more left leaning types. that struck me as something totally strange to say to me and totally opposite things i had been taught and learned or felt or believed about america or understood about myself. as an adult, and once i matured, i never considered i was a member of any "class".
about the last thought that would ever enter my mind is to vote for some benefit for myself as opposed to what i thought would be best for the country in general. thats not how i perceive many people in the democrat party to be however.
marx lived in london. england was and, to more than a small extent, still is a class based society. you could be a great golfer and win the british open but not be allowed to enter the clubhouse at st. andrews, for you weren't a gentleman. his (marx's) whole class struggle thing was something i dont ascribe to for america is or was or is still supposed to be, different.
america was formed without kings or royalty and the founders purposefully did so. now our society wasnt perfect and had its own informal system of bluebloods but one wasn't held to his or her birth station. frontiersmen could and did become presidents. we did have a struggle with race, more perhaps on a macro level than individually, but i think we have come a long way. i learned that in america, almost anything is possible given one's abilities and ambitions. i think that has proved to be true time and time again.
i would guess that attitude, how you perceive yourself and others, defines you. i always had the attitude i could work for something and get it. i would rather someone stomp a mud-hole in me than feel sorry for me and give me something. without going into anything personal, i will just say i had it rough growing up but i never thought of myself as a poor person who was against the rich. i was more a rich person without a thing, for i had nothing.
but in thinking about my youth and young adult hood, i did have a few scars i carried. i remember the first few times i ever entered a country club. i kept my eyes downcast and did feel out of place. and with good looking girls?, well i knew they were out of my league or so i felt.
but politically? i would say that the democrat party does play to what they perceive as class, and to separate people and treat people as members of a class instead of as individuals. they try to appeal to divisions and everything is about ethnicity and groups instead of just as american people. and the more extreme the democrat, the more it seems to be true.
