Proof Obama Has No Chance at Re-election!

[CuteOldGuy]

The Tea Party has been overtaken by the Republican establishment. Incrementalism toward disaster is not progress.

The difference between Washington and here, Kelli, is that I wouldn't mind if you screwed me out of all my money.

[Whirlaway]

Who may or may not control the Tea Party isn't important.

It is what the TP stands for = smaller government, lower taxes, less regulation, more individual rights and responsibilities.

[CuteOldGuy]

America stands for liberty, but are we really? It isn't what the symbol represents, it's the reality that controls. Just as the country is really run for the wealthy and influential, the Tea Party, as a subsidiary of them, will not do anything to upset their masters. It would have been nice if they had remained independent and true to their cause, but it didn't happen.

[Iaintliein]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

America stands for liberty, but are we really? It isn't what the symbol represents, it's the reality that controls. Just as the country is really run for the wealthy and influential, the Tea Party, as a subsidiary of them, will not do anything to upset their masters. It would have been nice if they had remained independent and true to their cause, but it didn't happen.

Are we indeed?

http://www.heritage.org/index/Ranking.aspx

I don't know how they came up with this, but it's pretty shitty to be behind a country where you can be publicly cained for chewing gum.

[CuteOldGuy]

LOL! Heritage has us just slightly above Bahrain!

[Whirlaway]

HA HA HA HA.....

The Heritage is the think tank that gave Romney his idea for mandated healthcare in Massachusetts! !


You Ron Paul wingnuts crack me up.

[CuteOldGuy]

<<<< Not a Ron Paul wingnut. A Gary Johnson wingnut.

[Whirlaway]

Your understanding of our Republic is lacking. AMERICA is about representative government and individual rights WITH responsibilities.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

America stands for liberty, but are we really? It isn't what the symbol represents, it's the reality that controls. Just as the country is really run for the wealthy and influential, the Tea Party, as a subsidiary of them, will not do anything to upset their masters. It would have been nice if they had remained independent and true to their cause, but it didn't happen.

[CuteOldGuy]

So you don't like liberty? America didn't used to stand for liberty? Isn't a representative republic under law guaranteeing rights, liberty? What don't I understand by wanting us to get back to a constitutional representative republic wherein basic rights are unalienable and where government cannot suspend them? Where is my understanding lacking? Because I don't like the two party system, and won't run with the Republicans? Bullshit. The two party system is a tradition, not in the Constitution. It can and must be disbanded in order to restore liberty.

You are the one lacking understanding, my friend.

[Whirlaway]

Your question is sophmoric, but I will answer. Of course. I sm for liberty. Liberty of the individual and liberty for the collective. It's s balancing act my friend'

[Whirlaway]

You wont ever get your utopian Republic because you refuse to participate in the incremental change process that can deliver real change. Keep waiting on the sidelines for the Revolution COG.

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

So you don't like liberty? America didn't used to stand for liberty? Isn't a representative republic under law guaranteeing rights, liberty? What don't I understand by wanting us to get back to a constitutional representative republic wherein basic rights are unalienable and where government cannot suspend them? Where is my understanding lacking? Because I don't like the two party system, and won't run with the Republicans? Bullshit. The two party system is a tradition, not in the Constitution. It can and must be disbanded in order to restore liberty.

You are the one lacking understanding, my friend.

[CuteOldGuy]

I already told you incremental change toward disaster is not progress. And WTF is liberty for the collective? Sounds soviet to me.