Do you agree or disagree with this statement?

[Irish Cream]

I absolutely agree. The guy either pays directly or indirectly ( dinners, gifts, etc.).

[simpleton]

I just roll up on the hunnies give em a wink and offer the backseat of my 74 Coup DeVille. You might ask," hey simpleton does that really get you free pussy at the club?" Does a fat kid love cake!

[rockbass]

Originally Posted by alluringava

Yup, groupies. And that's a case where the guy can be fucking butt ugly, but if he can sing and has loads o' cash...well...just look at Mick Jagger. The guy could french kiss a moose, and probably has.

Not any actual "groupies" anymore, and haven't really been since the 70's.

But still, lots of women seem to be drawn to an 'adventure' with a band member after a show.

My favourite quote (allegedly from Paul Stanley, actually, if he made it up it's pretty good!):
"being in a rock band and bragging about getting sex is like turning on the tap and bragging that water comes out"

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by evietaylor

For the most part, I agree.

Although, I do have 1 male friend who has multiple fwb's who he does nothing for. They show up to his house, fuck him, don't ask for a thing, & then they leave. He doesn't deal with any drama from them in any way (from what he tells me), he doesn't take them out, spend money on them in any fashion, & get's laid when he needs/wants.

He is exceptionally good looking & nice. I've also had sex with him & I must admit, he's pretty damn hot.

I suppose one of these days, his luck could run out. Lol.

Ive whitnessed many times that its looks above and beyond no matter what women say. The hot women will take abuse to no end.The guy becomes their "project" that they will "fix" the absolute great looking looser one day.When all the while the guy tells alls his friends how much he enjoys taking advantage of her, and the more verbal abuse he gives, the more she loves him.

[Guest081013-1]

YES>> totally agreeing

[alluringava]

Originally Posted by JONBALLS

Ive whitnessed many times that its looks above and beyond no matter what women say. The hot women will take abuse to no end.The guy becomes their "project" that they will "fix" the absolute great looking looser one day.When all the while the guy tells alls his friends how much he enjoys taking advantage of her, and the more verbal abuse he gives, the more she loves him.

That's also seen in the opposite way. I've seen guys get abused in every way by a beautiful woman and they keep coming back for more. Personally it boils down to self-esteem. If you don't think you deserve someone nice, you don't. I for one would never try to fix a guy because what's broken can't be fixed, and I'm not a fixer-upper. You get what you see when you're dating someone and if it needs to be fixed, then it's time to leave, I'm sorry. It's why I've been alone for 5 years.

[JONBALLS]

Originally Posted by alluringava

That's also seen in the opposite way. I've seen guys get abused in every way by a beautiful woman and they keep coming back for more. Personally it boils down to self-esteem. If you don't think you deserve someone nice, you don't. I for one would never try to fix a guy because what's broken can't be fixed, and I'm not a fixer-upper. You get what you see when you're dating someone and if it needs to be fixed, then it's time to leave, I'm sorry. It's why I've been alone for 5 years.

there sure are alot of ins and outs, I agree with you also.Its odd for me, I always had the impression if you could provide well,it meant something.Building a business was a main driving force for me, wanting to be financially secure kept me working long hours. Somehow I saw that as being a good man.Most women did not see that as a strong man though.I found that my ex was more impressed by supporting a guy,someone she would meet hanging in bars. it was funny cause I always see her driving around with this guy in the passenger seat.I prefer to own the car and drive her, it really makes no sense to me.Its much easier to pay, I tuned out along time ago and I have choose to do that for many years.I have run the numbers with my married buddies and its about the same, about 200k per kid.From the outside looking in, I think he overwhelmingly has the better deal , but not in his shoes.