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Pathological? Horse shit. He tends to embellish, but not once has his embellishment resulted in bomb threats.
Your false equivocating is tedious, and also, ahem, embellished.
And how did Vance clean his clock? By batting his baby blues? Or by refusing to answer the questions about his pathological lies about Jan. 6. Or the proposed national abortion ban he repeatedly claimed to support. Or that Trump saved the ACA?
Nobody’s clock got cleaned. But it seems like your might need winding.
LOL you don't even know the definition of pathological liar .
I enjoyed this portion, not really a debate but 2 fathers talking sincerely with each other. IMHO the highlight of the night. Facts: I'm a big 2 A guy.
Walz looked lost...like I would not want that guy overseeing my pizza delivery, let alone the "football". His countenance and affect betrayed how unprepared he would be to face down a world leader like Xi Jinping...although if you believe recent reports, some may say he'd take a quick liking to his "uncle". At least I know Vance wouldn't back down to him, if the elected POTUS died or was somehow else incapacitated. I was genuinely surprised at how well he presented himself last night. I didn't think he was a great choice for Trump, but he is winning me over. The voters who were still "undecided" and are now going to Harris off of Vance's non-answer to the 2020 election legitimacy question were going Harris/Walz anyways, IMHO. Think the rest know now that Vance is a stronger VP pick.
Vance left the debate podium and pivoted back to the same fear mongering and demonization of Immigrants he wanted you to forget about during the debate. He repeated the same hateful lies the next day in Michigan.
This guy is a fraud and serial liar who complained about being fact checked during the debate. He’ll be the least qualified president of the Senate ever.
He’s the perfect sucker fish for Trump’s ass. The difference is that when they lose next week, Trump probably won’t be back. The remains of the GOP will,throw Vance under the bus.
Vance- guy changes his opinion as often as he changes his name. Literally onto the next lie from the previous. I will say I found him agreeable - even likable during most of the debate where he was approachable, and even likable. But as I previously stated I felt waltz did a much better job of welcoming the population watching into the conversation. Versus being slick.
Americans aren't stupid in general. They trust their gut and I think Waltz spoke directly to them vs a hope n dream of a return to drama and assholism.
Vance- guy changes his opinion as often as he changes his name. Literally onto the next lie from the previous. I will say I found him agreeable - even likable during most of the debate where he was approachable, and even likable. But as I previously stated I felt waltz did a much better job of welcoming the population watching into the conversation. Versus being slick.
Americans aren't stupid in general. They trust their gut and I think Waltz spoke directly to them vs a hope n dream of a return to drama and assholism.
By your same standards, Trump won the debate against Harris...and I don't think that was the case.
Vance- guy changes his opinion as often as he changes his name. Literally onto the next lie from the previous. I will say I found him agreeable - even likable during most of the debate where he was approachable, and even likable. But as I previously stated I felt waltz did a much better job of welcoming the population watching into the conversation. Versus being slick.
Americans aren't stupid in general. They trust their gut and I think Waltz spoke directly to them vs a hope n dream of a return to drama and assholism.
what does "welcoming the population watching into the conversation" mean? lol you are parroting the MSDNC spin per Rachel Maddow. she literally said that in the post debate video i posted. nearly word for word.
what substance did Walz bring? none.
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By your same standards, Trump won the debate against Harris...and I don't think that was the case.
it isn't that Trump won or not depending on how you view it, it's a fact that Harris lost. she lost her chance to sway undecided voters the biggest X factor in this or any election.
on that point alone, Harris lost.
which is why she's desperate to get another debate and Trump is smart to refuse her the opportunity.
which leaves her only recourse is to give interviews to explain her positions and she's failed miserably at every attempt even in the most friendly environments .. like her townhall with Orca the killer whale.
Americans aren't stupid in general. They trust their gut and I think Waltz spoke directly to them vs a hope n dream of a return to drama and assholism.
I'm a pretty smart American, plus I'm smart enough that if I'm going to dog someone for being stupid like Vance, I would at least know how to spell the VPOTUS wanna-be's name. It's Walz. I would know that if I couldn't at least spell Walz's name correctly, I would lose credibility and look like a 'knucklehead'.
Actually I expected more fire works from one XO to another XO.