Suddenly the Deep State is to be trusted!

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

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HoeHOE, you need to work on your cuckoos. one of your links is broken.


CucHoeKooHoe??? sounds like a plan.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by Jaxson66

I beginning to believe that having a fascination with cock is a requirement for entry into the trump party.

They seem obsessed with that and hildebeest’s illegal server.

FTFY as you're go about showing how dems have puny dicks and microscopic intellect again.

[HoeHummer]

What is your obsession with dicks, Hanksy?

You sure talks funnily.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by HoeHummer

What is your obsession with dicks, Hanksy?

You sure talks funnily.

Funny how the mention of a puny prick solicits a response from you.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Funny how the mention of a puny prick solicits a response from you.

One would think he'd just obsess on robust pricks!

Since he's selected Humming Hoses as his "mark"!

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by eccielover

Trump is draining the swamp.

Funny how that works...

Exactly!

[friendly fred]

Originally Posted by Jaxson66

You often make reference to my retirement fund as being on the gumbment tit. Here’s a brief history lesson...

Ronald Regan was running in 1980 and sought the IAFF support. After he won, Bills that were being stalled in Congress were pushed through by the Regan administration that helped establish pension plans for firefighters across the nation. I thanked him for doing so with my vote.

Deep state, there never was a deep state, it’s lies mixed with truths to con a particular population.

That sounds like a quid pro quo to me - you should give the money back.

[gnadfly]

Did Iranian agents attack the American Embassy in Iraq? Apparently.

Did Soliemani direct those attacks? Apparently. He was very close.

Here's a point nobody seems to be emphasizing: There has to be very good ground intelligence to identify Soliemani at that particular spot. It doesn't happen because a drone operator solely thinks he sees him.

So is the intelligence community's reputation picking up? The proof is in the pudding.

[Redhot1960]

VDH understands Iranian Analytics

https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ian-analytics/

Iranian Analytics

By VICTOR DAVIS HANSON
January 3, 2020 4:43 PM


For all the current furor over the death of Qasem Soleimani, it is Iran, not the U.S. and the Trump administration, that is in a dilemma. Given the death and destruction wrought by Soleimani, and his agendas to come, he will not be missed.

Tehran has misjudged the U.S. administration’s doctrine of strategic realism rather than vice versa. The theocracy apparently calculated that prior U.S. patience and restraint in the face of its aggression was proof of an unwillingness or inability to respond. More likely, the administration was earlier prepping for a possible more dramatic, deadly, and politically justifiable response when and if Iran soon overreached.

To retain domestic and foreign credibility, Iran would now like to escalate in hopes of creating some sort of U.S. quagmire comparable to Afghanistan, or, more germanely, to a long Serbian-like bombing campaign mess, or the ennui that eventually overtook the endless no-fly zones over Iraq, or the creepy misadventure in Libya, or even something like an enervating 1979-80 hostage situation. The history of the strategies of our Middle East opponents has always been to lure us into situations that have no strategic endgame, do not play to U.S. strengths in firepower, are costly without a time limit, and create Vietnam War–like tensions at home.

But those wished-for landscapes are not what Iran has got itself into. Trump, after showing patience and restraint to prior Iranian escalations, can respond to Iranian tit-for-tat without getting near Iran, without commitments to any formal campaign, and without seeming to be a provocateur itching for war, but in theory doing a lot more damage to an already damaged Iranian economy either through drones, missiles, and bombing, or even more sanctions and boycotts to come. If Iran turns to terrorism and cyber-attacks, it would likely only lose more political support and risk airborne responses to its infrastructure at home.

Iran deeply erred in thinking that Trump’s restraint was permanent, that his impeachment meant he had lost political viability, that he would go dormant in an election year, that the stature of his left-wing opponents would surge in such tensions, and that his base would abandon him if he dared to use military force.

[oeb11]

Interesting read - may well be accurate. Always difficult predicting what the mullahs think or will do.

Thanks - RH

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by WTF

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps...ticles&via=rss


Funny how that works...

the daily beast and our resident lavender loon have presented mixed up obfuscations as a means to fraudulently attack honest people

they set up a straw man and then use him to attack honesty

the daily beast has done it on purpose

the lavender loon just swallows the spoon, of course discernment and comprehension and thought isn't his long suit, so from whom little is given, less is expected

first off, no longer does brennan and clapper run the "intelligence" community and rat face isn't there as the servant of obama

second off, the point was not that the intelligence community never did actual intelligence

third off, the point was that it was the political partisanship of some people who used the departments of the state against one political party and candidate, and that the "deep state" is inherent in big government, it's a natural bent toward big government proponents, and that there is the feeling that "we"set policy, politicians come and go, but we, the professionals, actually run things and we can sabotage what we want to sabotage by slow rolling anything, the 'deep state 'isn't and never has been the idea that nothing trustworthy emanates from the intelligence community

fourth off, its not that the work of the rank and file in detailing soleimani 's actions through the years and warning of more to come was wrong or untrustworthy or other works of intelligence weren't, while not always right, performed without professional diligence

fifth off, the straw man of the article is that "see, we aren't traitors like you claimed. we actually do some intelligence" when that, no real intelligence, was never the claim

and did people try to frame trump? yeah they did

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

the daily beast and our resident lavender loon have presented mixed up obfuscations as a means to fraudulently attack honest people

they set up a straw man and then use him to attack honesty

the daily beast has done it on purpose

the lavender loon just swallows the spoon, of course discernment and comprehension and thought isn't his long suit, so from whom little is given, less is expected

first off, no longer does brennan and clapper run the "intelligence" community and rat face isn't there as the servant of obama

second off, the point was not that the intelligence community never did actual intelligence

third off, the point was that it was the political partisanship of some people who used the departments of the state against one political party and candidate, and that the "deep state" is inherent in big government, it's a natural bent toward big government proponents, and that there is the feeling that "we"set policy, politicians come and go, but we, the professionals, actually run things and we can sabotage what we want to sabotage by slow rolling anything, the 'deep state 'isn't and never has been the idea that nothing trustworthy emanates from the intelligence community

fourth off, its not that the work of the rank and file in detailing soleimani 's actions through the years and warning of more to come was wrong or untrustworthy or other works of intelligence weren't, while not always right, performed without professional diligence

fifth off, the straw man of the article is that "see, we aren't traitors like you claimed. we actually do some intelligence" when that, no real intelligence, was never the claim

and did people try to frame trump? yeah they did

+1

[Jaxson66]

Originally Posted by gnadfly

Did Iranian agents attack the American Embassy in Iraq? Apparently.

Did Soliemani direct those attacks? Apparently. He was very close.

Here's a point nobody seems to be emphasizing: There has to be very good ground intelligence to identify Soliemani at that particular spot. It doesn't happen because a drone operator solely thinks he sees him.

So is the intelligence community's reputation picking up? The proof is in the pudding.

Are you hinting that Putin sold the guy out?

Putin praised Despot Don for his help in stopping a terrorist attack last week.

Is this Russian quid pro quo ? Maybe Putin thought that piece of shit was becoming to powerful and sold him out.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought

the daily beast and our resident lavender loon have presented mixed up obfuscations as a means to fraudulently attack honest people



and did people try to frame trump? yeah they did

Frame Trump! Is that wtf you believe?

lavender loon? Didn't you get Ms Silvers message about name calling? Plus I heard Luke was wearing lavender when he beat winn Dixie's at HEB. So be careful about making fun of lavender.

[eccielover]

Originally Posted by WTF

Frame Trump! Is that wtf you believe?

I consider it much more of a railroading of Trump. They couldn't come up with any actual crime so they manufactured two articles they could get passed in the House.

Cooler heads will prevail in Senate.

And Trump will continue to drain the swamp little bit by little bit and empty the deep state.