Sugar Daddy/ Sugar Baby Dating

[Gotyour6]

Originally Posted by Ana Valentina

He is the master and you are the puppet.


Just a realistic view from someone who's been on both sides!

Then you were a slave and not a sugar baby.

Never have I known a sugar daddy have a baby at his beck and call.

That is 100% bullshit and either you were with an asshole that thought he could buy a slave or you watch way to much MTV.

If you were on both sides you were on the slave and whore side.

Your experience must have been a nightmare to be at someones beck and call if he called you at midnight. I watched a tv show like that once and people I know called bullshit too.

Stop watching TV

[Blade Brown]

Interesting conversation. I am not a sugar daddy yet, but am looking forward to the day. It seems to be a great beneficial situation for both parties.

As a man, you finally get the power of choosing the type of girl you want to be with, instead of always having to settle for the leftovers that nobody else wants. You don't have to compete with tall greek gods, high status men, or guys that have known the girl since grade school. Yes, you are buying her affection to a certain point, but you finally get to experience the person you want to be with. Most men never have that chance. They just learn to like/love what is available to them. Well, I'd rather know what is feels to be with my ideal, and then maybe after that I can settle for "who really likes me". But to live my life without the experience of being with my dream girl, would be a tragedy in my mind.

[Guest072015-2]

[Guest072015-2]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

Then you were a slave and not a sugar baby.

Never have I known a sugar daddy have a baby at his beck and call.

If you were on both sides you were on the slave and whore side.

This is Diamonds and Tuxedos, a forum for expensive tastes and lavish lifestyles. Glancing at your posts and reviews, it's evident this forum may not be for you. Just an observation.

By the way, an SD who gives his SB 5k a month certainly expects her to be available when he can get away. No I was not a slave. I was treated extremely well. Thank you for your "bright" input though! I'll have to catch that TV show you speak of! Lol

I'm convinced you're only motivation for posting here is to bait others.

Shoo.

[Guest041816-1]

Originally Posted by Sitara Devi

I think its really wise to remember that regardless of whether one meets a man as an SD or client at the end of the day he is still a man with needs, desires, expectations and a complex personality. The human quality is vital that a woman brings with her, the ability to really connect deeply with a man regardless of whether he is a client or SD. I think that our planet really lacks love and understanding and so many men are hungry for this quality along with feminine touch that only a woman can bring so its very crucial to offer a loving space for a guy to feel safe exploring his emotions and fantasies with you.

Great summary here it doesn't matter where we meet these Gentlemen they're all out exploring the missing pieces to the puzzle. One of few things I notice they desire is the touch, the companionship and the spontaneity and some one to listen to them.

[Guest041816-1]

Originally Posted by Ana Valentina

Call me crazy , but I actually have to agree with *some* of GotYour6's points here.

If you are in an SD/SB relationship and said SD is your only source of income, it will not work longer than a few months. Definitely not at least a year. Reason being, the SD does eventually get bored especially if the SB is not showing any kind of aspirations or goals for herself. After the newness of the sex wears off, all that left is a money hungry girl with no substance. Men tire of that, no matter how sexy you think you are. No man wants to be solely responsible for someone that is not his wife or children. It becomes more hassle than it's worth to him.

Secondly, a hookers mindset IS very different from an SB. A hooker is used to immediate gratification with little effort or upkeep of the relationship. It's no big deal if Joe doesn't call her again because she has Matt tmrw and Gary the day after that. However, an SB needs to put in a little more time, effort, as well as patience. She needs to maintain the relationship and keep his interest. This is a relationship not a transaction. Being a successful Sugarbaby is not as easy as one might think. It is stressful to put all your eggs in one basket as the SD can suddenly decide to end things at any moment and the sugarbaby is stuck like chuck. This is why this arrangement works better if the SB is in school or has a career in addition to the SD. Being an escort is definitely much easier than being a Sugarbaby but if you're willing to put in the time and effort, the long term rewards of being a Sugarbaby are worth it.

Making the transition from SB to escort has proven a bit tough for me as I abhor the transactional mindset. I'm only comfortable having minimal clients, and I can't help but try to form friendships with each of them. After a session when I text or email just to converse, these clients tend to get a little weirded out. They are not used to an escort striking up conversations that does not revolve around a session. Some actually prefer the transactional approach and do not want to form any attachments. Obviously,this is why they go to escorts and not a Sugarbaby. I'm still learning to adjust to that, but I'm not the best at p4p.

I'm used to having long term arrangements with only one or 2 gentlemen(long term meaning over one year) , but they are never my sole income as I also have a career. At the moment I'm currently unattached and seeking new *friends* until something ongoing develops.

-a former Sugarbaby

Love the name change.

I agree totally different mentality most think they can its easy to get a SD and their worries will go away. Its no way like that. A lot of time is involved having trust and a great connection.

Its no way like the hobby when each go their separate ways then go on the the next person some will see you again some will not. The Financial side is great if you're looking for stability and a upscale lifestyle.

So glad that you mentioned you must have a way to support yourself the true purpose get buried with the pretentious definition the important words are "supplemental", mentoring, helping establish yourself in the same mindset as your SD.

[corvette689]

Not to step on anyone's toes but I fancy myself to be somewhat of a Sugarbaby connoisseur. Having had three long term Sugarbabies within the past 10 years, I can honestly say that in order for this type of relationship to succeed, the woman must

1. Have goals and aspirations besides financial gain
2. Willingness to accomodate her schedule around mine and be available when I desire (as my time is limited)
3. Have more than just a pretty face. Looks get me interested but don't keep me interested.
4. Give as much as she takes
5. Understand the boundaries

And the man must:
1. Make her feel more than a sex object
2. Spoil, lavish, and appreciate her
3. Understand the boundaries
4. Above all, respect her

It is easy to fall too comfortable in the receiving role. Both parties need to be the recipients and feel equally appreciated.

This can be a wonderful and rewarding arrangement if done correctly. I can't fathom how the poster below can honestly claim he is a successful Sugardaddy considering his poor view and blatant lack of respect for women.

[AvaRay]

I started as a sb in college, like most, and at a time I was desperate to make tuition. I was so shocked when I found men who treated me better than any men I had ever dated and were financially helpful that I swore I never wanted to have a boyfriend again... Both were much older than me and one was married. They really helped me through my struggles and I now consider them close friends.

[LadyMoxie]

Originally Posted by AvaRay

I started as a sb in college, like most, and at a time I was desperate to make tuition. I was so shocked when I found men who treated me better than any men I had ever dated and were financially helpful that I swore I never wanted to have a boyfriend again... Both were much older than me and one was married. They really helped me through my struggles and I now consider them close friends.

it's my taste, but I do love older men. After I broke up with my X 10 years ago, I started dating older gents and they haven't let me down till this day. Completely attentive and want to know more than just how good I fuck. Most, not all, know how to make a girl feel like a queen! Mentally and physically. ...

[Guest062217]

What do you define as older?

40 to 50?
50 to 60?
60 +?

Just curious...

[5T3V3]

Originally Posted by Gotyour6

Then you were a slave and not a sugar baby.

Never have I known a sugar daddy have a baby at his beck and call.

That is 100% bullshit and either you were with an asshole that thought he could buy a slave or you watch way to much MTV.

If you were on both sides you were on the slave and whore side.

Your experience must have been a nightmare to be at someones beck and call if he called you at midnight. I watched a tv show like that once and people I know called bullshit too.

Stop watching TV

to both of you the term is "beckon call" - beckon - to make a gesture with the hand, arm, or head to encourage someone to come nearer or follow - call (well you figure it out) --- not trying to be a smart ass just trying to spread grammatical knowledge, so we all sound smarter

Originally Posted by Ana Valentina

This is Diamonds and Tuxedos, a forum for expensive tastes and lavish lifestyles. Glancing at your posts and reviews, it's evident this forum may not be for you. Just an observation.

By the way, an SD who gives his SB 5k a month certainly expects her to be available when he can get away. No I was not a slave. I was treated extremely well. Thank you for your "bright" input though! I'll have to catch that TV show you speak of! Lol

I'm convinced you're only motivation for posting here is to bait others.

Shoo.

Not that Gotyour6 needs defending ... BUT I find it odd that you joined in Feb 2015 (4 months ago) and you feel knowledgeable enough to criticize someone who has been here 4+ years (he joined in Dec 2010). And if you follow the thread sugar daddies and sugar babies you will see he is quite the knowledgeable poster about that subject which as it turns out is the subject here. He does have a decidedly, singularly focused definition of a Sugar Baby. From his perspective there is a difference between a young lady that chooses to date a man she likes and is attracted to for cultural enrichment, physical and emotional pleasure and yes some amount of financial stability. Money typically not being the primary concern. A hooker is someone that will sleep with men for money and as such there is a subtle difference in that the money benefits are the primary factor in the arrangement. G6 I would dare say would characterize you as a hooker on retainer rather than a sugar baby - rightly or wrongly so I don't know. Some days I wake up thinking G6 is right and other days someone makes a remark that changes that opinion.

One theme that rings basically true for me personally is that providers have a money first mind set and because of the hardness of the profession - a somewhat cold, protected or defensive personality. Believe me I feel for you ladies, I understand it can be tough and it is hard to trust anyone but yourself. And it is precisely that self protective mindset that regardless of arrangement would relegate you to always being a hooker or a hooker with one client or on retainer. Whereas a sugar baby would more likely be a young college student, grad student or young professional in need of contacts and mentoring to grow and reach her goals. And she would be less likely to have the hard defensive shell that a prostitute tends to have. Again, not sure I agree but I do see the perspective as a valid point of view for some.

Perhaps the details of the $5K sugar baby arrangement you say you had would clarify whether it was a Hooker on retainer situation or a sugar daddy/sugar baby arrangement. I have a feeling once you start explaining it a few more of the Sugar Daddy posters might start agreeing with G6, so you might want to hide behind the "I don't have to explain myself to you" excuse.

As far as your sword crossing with G6 here in this thread diamonds and tuxedoes, trying to belittle him rather than discuss the topic as well as your braggadocios comment that you were once a $5K a month pretty woman beckon call girl - you haven't improved, in my estimation, your standing as a paramour; but rather diminished it. And if you are not here to improve your financial position by raising the value of your paramour stock, then why waste your time here in the first place. Marketing 101 - never ever call someone's baby ugly - it will always cost you money.

[Guest072015-2]

Originally Posted by SNL9933

What do you define as older?

40 to 50?
50 to 60?
60 +?

Just curious...

I define older as 45+ although some 45 yr olds look young. So maybe more accurately 50+. "Older" men are so sexy! My older man crush is Liam Neeson.

[Guest072015-2]

Originally Posted by 5T3V3

to both of you the term is "beckon call" - beckon - to make a gesture with the hand, arm, or head to encourage someone to come nearer or follow - call (well you figure it out) ---

Ah! (slapping my forehead)! Now I feel like a complete illiterate.

As far as your sword crossing with G6 here in this thread diamonds and tuxedoes, trying to belittle him rather than discuss the topic as well as your braggadocios comment that you were once a $5K a month pretty woman beckon call girl - you haven't improved, in my estimation, your standing as a paramour; but rather diminished it. And if you are not here to improve your financial position by raising the value of your paramour stock, then why waste your time here in the first place.

Very true. He caught me on a bad day. Today is a new and much better day!

[ChantalStoneNYC]

Originally Posted by Ana Valentina

I define older as 45+ although some 45 yr olds look young. So maybe more accurately 50+. "Older" men are so sexy! My older man crush is Liam Neeson.

Not to derail...but Liam Neeson...swoons. He is one handsome chunk of man meat that I would love to sink my teeth into!

[Gotyour6]

Originally Posted by Ana Valentina

Ah! (slapping my forehead)! Now I feel like a complete illiterate.


Very true. He caught me on a bad day. Today is a new and much better day!

It's an old phrase, originating in the late 1800s, during a time when “beck” was used to mean “beckon.”
You're safe. It can go either way.

Just as ain't wasn't a word but that got changed.

It is hard for some to adapt to American versus English.

We no longer speak as we did in the 1700's