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Gotyour6 · 04-22-2015, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Savannah Moon

If found a SD.. I would walk away from providing...

And what would you do for a living?

Savannah Moon · 04-22-2015, 10:37 AM

I relocated to KCMO to launch what will be a very successful business. I am an entrepreneur in let's say the arts. plus if you notice I am a woman in phenomenal condition and its not from sitting around scratching my rear

I am a fitness nutrition/ practitioner plus I am licensed to instruct yoga and meditation. I will begin engineering/ architecture classes in 2016/Spring.

Savannah Moon · 04-22-2015, 10:40 AM

I am quite ambitious

awesomeash24 · 05-14-2015, 04:16 PM

Contact me i have a open schdule passport ready and love to travel

Kalani Kai · 05-14-2015, 07:06 PM

Interesting topic, Armani! I've got to say it's cool to read the responses on this. They seem to all be so honest; I like that. For me, I think with a SD / SB arrangement, it would need to be with someone I would truly want to be more intimate with emotionally & visa versa. Emotions are always there when you're with someone. But I mean the way you (would) get to know each other's lives, schedules, likes, dislikes etc. It gets alot more intimate by nature. The perk (& downside) of an Escort date is you can have several sessions with someone & the agreement has to stay what it is. But with a NSA relationship, there is much more left to chance. Like, risking falling for each other, when either one of you know you cannot commit to something like that (in many cases). So I guess every situation has it's own place. In all honesty I must admit, hummm I have fantasized about being swept off my feet unexpectedly by "a client". Cheers!!

nx2k · 05-18-2015, 09:53 AM

I started an ISO thread but not many responded. Looking for sugar baby if anyone interested. White, 29, younger, 5'6 and 125ish lbs. Hit me up.

Savannah Moon · 05-18-2015, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Kalani Kai

Interesting topic, Armani! I've got to say it's cool to read the responses on this. They seem to all be so honest; I like that. For me, I think with a SD / SB arrangement, it would need to be with someone I would truly want to be more intimate with emotionally & visa versa. Emotions are always there when you're with someone. But I mean the way you (would) get to know each other's lives, schedules, likes, dislikes etc. It gets alot more intimate by nature. The perk (& downside) of an Escort date is you can have several sessions with someone & the agreement has to stay what it is. But with a NSA relationship, there is much more left to chance. Like, risking falling for each other, when either one of you know you cannot commit to something like that (in many cases). So I guess every situation has it's own place. In all honesty I must admit, hummm I have fantasized about being swept off my feet unexpectedly by "a client". Cheers!!

Well stated. I have the same client sweep me off my feet fantasy as well

JJ Fun Guy · 05-19-2015, 01:21 PM

I too am seeking a SB. She should be very attractive,slender/slim,fun and open minded.

Irishskirt · 05-20-2015, 12:31 AM

Hi ...
i too am looking for somewhat of commitment....look at my profile to see my showcase...214 450 7861..text me and let get to know each other...im very private,kind,and a lil freak in the bedroom..i am a .great cook and enjoy music,dancing,and trave .and great sex....
irish

Gotyour6 · 05-20-2015, 06:47 AM

Look at all the hookers looking for steady clients.

Lol

Guest030824 · 05-24-2015, 01:38 PM

We have been seeing each other for over three years. I send her a little money each month to help her get by. We get together several times a year and enjoy our time together very much. I brought her up to Dallas this week end and we attended my birthday party with my kids and grand kids. My children love her and what she has done for me as I am widowed and alone most of the time. She has been a bright light in my life for the last couple of years. She never asks for any thing and I try to buy her clothes when we are together. She is bright and fun to be with. Going into the party Fri night she was shaking not knowing the reception she would receive. My oldest daughter jumped up and ran to her hugging her. All of my children and grand children made it a point to come over and talk to her.
Is this a sugar daddy sugar baby relation ship? My kids got me started in looking for a girl friend and are tickled that I have found some one I like so well.

chrisstl · 05-24-2015, 02:23 PM

imo. since you took her to your family event, yours is more than SD/SB relationship!

Guest030824 · 05-24-2015, 03:19 PM

The two of us share a birth date May 16 and that has provided us with a prefect time to get together for several days. We went to Bossier City at the horseshoe a couple of years ago. We were going to San Antonio this year to stay on the River Walk but I got so sick we had to cancel it. My kids had scheduled to have a party for me last Friday so I send Emerald7 a plane ticket and she flew up for the party here. She was shaking when we walked into Joe's Crab Shack but the minute she got hugged by my oldest daughter the nervousness was over. I had also invited Dallas Rain to the party but she couldn't make it. I am in a rather different position than others as I am widowed and my kids have pushed me into meeting other women. My kids know what they do so no sweat.

sensualsanaa · 05-28-2015, 08:55 AM

Okay, it took me some time to decide if I wanted to post here or not. Honestly, I was a little afraid and first thought I'd rather write a blog containing my opinion, but there has been a WEALTH of information shared in this thread and if I overlook the insults and drama there are some very astute individuals here who I feel can share a bit of knowledge. I will admit, going into this world I didn't understand the difference between a provider or courtesan w/ steady clients and a sugar baby. I thought being a provider would lead to being a sugar baby, but I see just how rare that is and how I may have shot myself in the foot beginning in the p4p world when I desired something more. When I was younger, I wanted a SD, but strayed away from the idea because it didn't seem like a wise decision to put all my eggs in one basket. I am not interested in having a financial leash around my neck and being someone's private on-call sex toy. Now that I am older and more aware of what I want and need I think the value of a SD exceeds any limitation on visits per week or money per month. Experiences and opportunities are much more difficult to put a dollar amount on and interpersonal chemistry plays a large part in the success of one of these relationships.

What attracts me most is being able to be with someone who is able to introduce me to a different style of living. Someone who has the connections necessary to become established and self sufficient. I look at a sugar daddy as a kind of mentor who can help navigate through different circumstances. Someone who is fully capable of supporting you in more ways than financially. While he may do amazing things for you, and take you to amazing places, he is not a check, a bank, or an ATM. He is a man who is needing something more than just sex. Now I don't want anyone to misconstrue my post here as some type of advertisement, but I am interested in hearing from a sugar daddy's POV just how many of your babies desire you for more than just money? I don't mean emotionally either. How do those arrangements work out for you? Do you prefer a SB who is just interested in her allowance and playing her part or someone who is wanting to learn from you and genuinely get to know you?

I think the common thread in any relationship is trust, honesty and open communication. As Jaycee said, it is important to know exactly what you are looking for upfront. I get that the consensus is that a lot of providers aren't very intelligent or willing to step outside of that provider/john role but what about the ones that are? Should they be painted with the same brush and treated with such disdain? A lot of times I read about how physically attracted one party may or may not be to the next, however I find it hard to believe that someone would pour so much of their energy into a vessel whose only attribute is something so perishable as beauty. Is hotness and no history as a provider the only attributes that make a good SB?

From what I've gathered being in a SD/SB relationship isn't all that different than being in a civvie relationship except the SB is expected to refrain from negative emotions or nagging and drama should be kept to a minimum and the SD may be married and not available all the time. Is this an accurate assumption?

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Originally Posted by Gotyour6

In the beginning she got an apartment, car, furnishings, allowance, I got her a fog for Christmas two years ago, shopping trips, trips to Japan, China, Russia, etc..

Now she has her own job at 21 years old making 41,00 a year. She said she owes it all to me and I say it was all her, I just pointed her in the direction she needs to go.

This is what I personally think it should be about. Elevating your sugar baby to a level that she can sustain herself. I think you are a very secure man for being able to set her up to make her own money and not rely so heavily on you. Forget about all of the money you've spent or trips you've taken(although I am sure they were fun and she enjoyed them!) the experience in a job that will translate to more career opportunities is priceless, because if you decide to upgrade to a newer model, she still has a career to fall back on. When I first began reading your post I could not understand what value they had to the community as they are generally filled with vitriol and disdain, however now I see that you get it and despite your feelings for providers I am happy that you did something so selfless for her.

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Originally Posted by JayceeRivers

This is the last I shall say on this subject.

To the ladies that aspire for more. Those that wish to be courtesans or sugar babies,

Do not let someone else's view restrain you from bettering yourself or striving for an arrangement. Everyone has the potential to be what they want and it is not wrong to desire to be a provider, a sugar baby, a courtesan or whatever your personal aspirations are. Be the best, do your research, be kind and thoughtful. Remember even the person who speaks the cruelest words is a person and he/she has their own flaws and opinions. This does not mean you need to take it to heart or let them define you. You define you. Focus on bettering yourself and you will draw those that will appreciate what you have to offer. The moment you allow someone else to define what you can be, that is all you will ever be. If you succeed in catching the eye of a sugar daddy remember to treat him well. Learn him, know him and fulfill his needs and he will in turn fulfill yours to the best of his ability. Not all needs stay in the bedroom. Take the time to consider his feelings. Empathize. If the roles were reversed you would not want to be treated like an ATM I am sure. Trust is key and trust is earned.

To those that view providers in such a way they could be nothing but a provider. No matter your personal opinion I respect your right to have it. Though I may disagree with your opinion it is yours to be had. To someone out there you are a god and a savoir. A wonderful person who lights up their life. They in turn fill some need of yours and hopefully adds some light into your life. That is all that matters.

Lastly to those men/women who hold an open mind. You I respect above all else. Not because I desire to be seen by you or others in a particular way but simply because that is the mark of true wisdom and intelligence. The ability to view more than a singular path. Old-T, stimulate, and everyone else. You are the reason that women like myself have not given up on this forum.

Thank you so much for your inspiring and insightful post Jaycee. Everything you have shared has been intuitive and informative. I was almost down in the dumps & ready to quit until I read this and decided to read a few more pages of this thread to see. Your voice here is refreshing and very much so needed!

Gotyour6 · 05-28-2015, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by sensualsanaa

This is what I personally think it should be about. Elevating your sugar baby to a level that she can sustain herself. I think you are a very secure man for being able to set her up to make her own money and not rely so heavily on you. Forget about all of the money you've spent or trips you've taken(although I am sure they were fun and she enjoyed them!) the experience in a job that will translate to more career opportunities is priceless, because if you decide to upgrade to a newer model, she still has a career to fall back on. When I first began reading your post I could not understand what value they had to the community as they are generally filled with vitriol and disdain, however now I see that you get it and despite your feelings for providers I am happy that you did something so selfless for her.
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I have nothing at all against providers. I think they play a role that everyone needs and they did for me as well.

I would love to see a couple of them and i am sure I will as time goes on.

I just see them all looking for a sugar daddy and they look for the money right now. They don't look at it long term as my girl and the one before her did.

If I had my way one girl I used to see would have been my sugar baby. She is a provider and I would still like to have her as my sugar baby. She said she would only charge me 150.00 an hour if I paid her up front for ten hours and bought her a car.

A hookers mindset is not the right mindset for a sugar baby. Notice the period at the end of that sentence.