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Originally Posted by Austin Ellen
Ok, I just don't see the analogy on that. For people who have had loved ones in the armed services - it is disrespectful what the players are doing. I've had PMs where they show a soldier kneeling in front of a cross and a grave or a soldier kneeling to a widow - and they say it's the same thing. No, no it is not. When a solider kneels in front of a grave or a widow presenting the U.S. flag - it is a sign of respect to the fallen soldier and for the service he or she gave to our country.
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You don't get it because I think you don't want to get it.
1) Those players who are kneeling also have loved ones in the armed services. I hate that people try to use that as a defense. In fact many of their family members fought in wars so that they can do things like kneel in protest to the social injustices facing minorities. You don't get to overlook the feelings of vets who agree with them and support what they are doing. There are plenty who agree with them so that's a flawed defense.
2) The players have routinely said that they aren't protesting the anthem, flag, or vets. Yet you are continuously calling them liars when you say that's what they are doing. You've actually decided in your mind what they are doing as that because you don't like it. MLK wasn't boycotting buses or food with his protest. Those were just the vehicles used to get the message across. You can't dictate what someone means by their protest.
3) What Manafort is accused of is far worse than what the players are doing. How do you know? The players haven't been arrested and charged for kneeling. Manafort is accused of a crime against this country, if you aren't more outraged over that than a player kneeling for social injustice, I'm going have to think it's not about the flag or the reason but the person doing it.
4) Have you heard why they kneel? It's to show that our country is injured. That we aren't providing the wishes for the nation that we talk about the anthem, Declaration or our constitution. That sadly not all men are treated like we are equal. That there is injustices happening that people refuse to talk about. Case in point, no one talks about the issues the players are kneeling for. They instead decide what players are doing and discuss around that.
So yeah maybe the analogy doesn't work. Manafort has done illegal activities that were against our countries interests. You know the country that is represented by the flag, that's protected by vets. The players are fighting for the interests of people in our country whose voices aren't being heard. If Trump pardons Manafort he's ok with disrespecting our country as long as it's not by black athletes. Or as long as it's in the interest of Putin.
