Ben Carson admits making up West Point story

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Who is "Gary Hert"?

If you actually mean "Gary HART" ....

.................. not only do you have skin color wrong, you also have the character wrong!

Has Carson been cheating on his mistress?

Does Carson have a mistress?

Has Carson been seen and photographed frolicking with a bimbo off the coast of Florida this year?

Actually Gary Hart was a "Bill Clinton" .... except Bill and Hillary covered up the sandbox in Arkansas.

Keep up the good work ....

Ben Carson
November 10, 2015

"The 2 strongest GOP hopefuls against Clinton are Ben Carson, who leads her 47/43, and Marco Rubio, who leads her 45/43. This continues the trend of Carson being the most electable candidate for the Republicans at this point pretty much everywhere we poll. He is the only candidate on either side of the aisle with a positive overall favorability rating in the state- 45% of voters see him positively to 32% with a negative opinion."
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/ben-carson/

It's too bad you are a racist.

The story was Gary embellished his resume for president like Ben is doing.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

The main thing you need to concentrate on sperm bank, is, was my statement true or not. Was general W in Detroit on the day B C claimed he was. If he was then my source was wrong, if he was not then the source was correct, and all your blather is to no avail.

You were regurgitating Politico's lies, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Politico lied, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Ergo, you lied, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, and you did so AFTER Politco was forced to walk back its story.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You were regurgitating Politico's lies, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Politico lied, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Ergo, you lied, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, and you did so AFTER Politco was forced to walk back its story.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

[COLOR="Black"] [SIZE="3"] It's about the lame-stream media and their lies and deception, Old-THUMPER. Carson's getting a date wrong < ---- Here is your real answer sperm bank.]

Let's see you walk back that statement fucking lying retard. I did not lie and you are caught in your own shit.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Let's see you walk back that statement fucking lying retard. I did not lie and you are caught in your own shit.

You did lie, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. And you're lying when you say you didn't, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

And you've yet to support your contention with any substantive proof that during those 23 years someone informed Dr. Carson that he was in error and that he afterwards persisted in telling his story after he was told he was in error.

More misdirection. The burden of proof isn't on ME to correct his book. It is on Carson. You know that, but you are prevaricating as always.

He ran for office before, not just in 2016. He could have and should have reviewed his own books and the accuracy of the claims therein.

He wrote the book in 1992. He met Westmoreland in 1969. So, 23 years later he should have been fact-checking what he was writing, especially if he had political ambitions. I doubt very much he recalled Westmoreland's exact words 23 years later, so he was filling in the blanks himself. He was either lazy or misleading when he chose to write that he was offered a full scholarship.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

After all, Powell made a factual mistake in his memoir, and that mistake is now being perpetuated by other authors who are relying solely on his account. Powell wasn't fibbing, and he isn't a liar: he is just wrong proving that someone can be wrong about the details and not be a liar.

Misdirection again. Powell's situation neither lessens nor increases Carson's blame. It is irrelevant to what Carson wrote.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Furthermore, Westmoreland did have the power to garner academy appointments, and Aviano is an Air Force Base, mope.

A liar at his game again. All should note the careful parsing of words here. "Garner" appointments? What does that mean? Some more weasel wording to avoid being pinned down on another lie or mistake?

By now your Google searches have made you realize that prior service military personnel get nominations for West Point or the WP Prep School from their direct in line commanders (i.e., their company commanders), not the Army Chief of Staff - which is what Westmoreland was in 1968.

This is because the Army Chief of Staff or any other high-ranking officer does NOT know the 18 and 19 year old enlisted men at the bottom of the ranks. That is why the Army requires recommendations from the company CO.

So, no, Westmoreland did not have any appointments to make.

But EVEN if he did, Carson was NOT prior service military - despite the high school ROTC membership. So Westmoreland couldn't give Carson a nomination even if he wanted to.

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

...and Aviano is an Air Force Base, mope.

What the fuck does that mean mope? I never mentioned Aviano.

More misdirection?

[Guest032516]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

As for the first statement ... I will "assume" you have read "his book" and your paraphrase is accurate as to what "he wrote" in "his book."

#1 for whatever reason he drifted to a "military" environment, since ROTC was more often than not an "elective" activity in those years that pretty much consumed the "extracurricular" activity time and was restrictive from a discipline point of view, so one had to "want" to engage in the structured activity.

#2 for a financially challenged you man at the time the military was a good path to obtaining health care training, and specifically for physicians and dentists. For about 30+ years now I have had close friends who were trained while in the military for the private practices (one remained in a civilian government position as a physician) in dentistry, surgery, and psychiatry. In addition I have had surgery (and sewn up) by at least four different surgeons who were trained in the military .... Occasionally I have been made aware through those associations of career military surgeons who are one of 2-3 experts in a particular field worldwide. Brain surgery would be one of those fields particularly appropriate in a military hospital and/or available for travel overseas when needed (which ALL of those I have known did and some still do). (Some of the best emergency room surgeons in this country are "former" corpsmen, because of their extensive experience "under pressure." My face and head were sewn up by a corpsman and a plastic surgeon later said he could not improve on the "needlework"!)

I'm posting this, because something is somewhat "off" ... with that explanation (from his book). Either he received bad or misguided advice or someone is fabricating parts of yet another part of Carson's history.

Read the article link

Here is Carson's quote:

"In an interview with The New York Times following the POLITICO story, Carson said: “I don’t remember all the specific details. Because I had done so extraordinarily well you know I was told that someone like me – they could get a scholarship to West Point. But I made it clear I was going to pursue a career in medicine.”

It's not clear from that whether Carson wrote that in the book (I have not read it) or was supplementing what he wrote in the book by telling the NY Times what his answer to Westmoreland was. But either way, it is Carson's words about why he chose not to go to WP.

So, that's where the part about Carson not wanting to go to WP because he wanted to go to medical school came from

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

You did lie, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. And you're lying when you say you didn't, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

Only a lying liberal POS like you can look at his own words then deny them, You and Hillary, two peas in a pod. Fuck you sperm bank, keep draining dicks it is all you can do except lie.

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

More misdirection. The burden of proof isn't on ME to correct his book. It is on Carson. You know that, but you are prevaricating as always.

He ran for office before, not just in 2016. He could have and should have reviewed his own books and the accuracy of the claims therein.

He wrote the book in 1992. He met Westmoreland in 1969. So, 23 years later he should have been fact-checking what he was writing, especially if he had political ambitions. I doubt very much he recalled Westmoreland's exact words 23 years later, so he was filling in the blanks himself. He was either lazy or misleading when he chose to write that he was offered a full scholarship.

Misdirection again. Powell's situation neither lessens nor increases Carson's blame. It is irrelevant to what Carson wrote.



A liar at his game again. All should note the careful parsing of words here. "Garner" appointments? What does that mean? Some more weasel wording to avoid being pinned down on another lie or mistake?

By now your Google searches have made you realize that prior service military personnel get nominations for West Point or the WP Prep School from their direct in line commanders (i.e., their company commanders), not the Army Chief of Staff - which is what Westmoreland was in 1968.

This is because the Army Chief of Staff or any other high-ranking officer does NOT know the 18 and 19 year old enlisted men at the bottom of the ranks. That is why the Army requires recommendations from the company CO.

So, no, Westmoreland did not have any appointments to make.

But EVEN if he did, Carson was NOT prior service military - despite the high school ROTC membership. So Westmoreland couldn't give Carson a nomination even if he wanted to.

What the fuck does that mean mope? I never mentioned Aviano.

More misdirection?

Generals sign off on awards all of the time without personally knowing the individual receiving the award. The general depends on the men he does know to vet the individuals receiving the award. But as an former airman who did a tour of duty at Aviano, you should know that; yet, here you are superciliously making unsubstantiated claims about Carson "should have" known without any evidence to support your misguided POV, mope. You dismiss the example of Powell misremembering, but you cannot even remember what you said that revealed that you served at Aviano, mope.

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Only a lying liberal POS like you can look at his own words then deny them, You and Hillary, two peas in a pod. Fuck you sperm bank, keep draining dicks it is all you can do except lie.

You'd be the liar denying what you said, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by I B Hankering

Generals sign off on awards all of the time without personally knowing the individual receiving the award. The general depends on the men he does know to vet the individuals receiving the award. But as an former airman who did a tour of duty at Aviano, you should know that; yet, here you are superciliously making unsubstantiated claims about Carson "should have" known without any evidence to support your misguided POV, mope. You dismiss the example of Powell misremembering, but you cannot even remember what you said that revealed that you served at Aviano, mope.




You'd be the liar denying what you said, Ekim the Inbred Chimp.

Did you say something Hillary?

[Yssup Rider]

I wonder why IBIdiot always disappears for a few weeks around DOTY time?

Has anyone asked him?

[Yssup Rider]

I wonder why IBIdiot always disappears for a few weeks around DOTY time?

Has anyone asked him?

[JD Barleycorn]

Originally Posted by ExNYer

More misdirection. The burden of proof isn't on ME to correct his book. It is on Carson. You know that, but you are prevaricating as always.

He ran for office before, not just in 2016. He could have and should have reviewed his own books and the accuracy of the claims therein.

He wrote the book in 1992. He met Westmoreland in 1969. So, 23 years later he should have been fact-checking what he was writing, especially if he had political ambitions. I doubt very much he recalled Westmoreland's exact words 23 years later, so he was filling in the blanks himself. He was either lazy or misleading when he chose to write that he was offered a full scholarship.




Misdirection again. Powell's situation neither lessens nor increases Carson's blame. It is irrelevant to what Carson wrote.



A liar at his game again. All should note the careful parsing of words here. "Garner" appointments? What does that mean? Some more weasel wording to avoid being pinned down on another lie or mistake?

By now your Google searches have made you realize that prior service military personnel get nominations for West Point or the WP Prep School from their direct in line commanders (i.e., their company commanders), not the Army Chief of Staff - which is what Westmoreland was in 1968.

This is because the Army Chief of Staff or any other high-ranking officer does NOT know the 18 and 19 year old enlisted men at the bottom of the ranks. That is why the Army requires recommendations from the company CO.

So, no, Westmoreland did not have any appointments to make.

But EVEN if he did, Carson was NOT prior service military - despite the high school ROTC membership. So Westmoreland couldn't give Carson a nomination even if he wanted to.


What the fuck does that mean mope? I never mentioned Aviano.

More misdirection?

Maybe it's just more misdirection but a general has the power to "give" an appointment by having a connection to someone who will make an appointment on their recommendation. A US senator promised my uncle an appointment to a service academy for his son. A senator can recommend but can't make an appointment. He retired but left a message with his successor. My uncle went to this successor about his son and the successor said he would kick it upstairs to someone who could make an appointment. He did and my cousin went to West Point. So a senator who had no power to make an appointment was responsible for getting my cousin into West Point. More misdirection?

[WombRaider]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Maybe it's just more misdirection but a general has the power to "give" an appointment by having a connection to someone who will make an appointment on their recommendation. A US senator promised my uncle an appointment to a service academy for his son. A senator can recommend but can't make an appointment. He retired but left a message with his successor. My uncle went to this successor about his son and the successor said he would kick it upstairs to someone who could make an appointment. He did and my cousin went to West Point. So a senator who had no power to make an appointment was responsible for getting my cousin into West Point. More misdirection?

Being sponsored by a national-level government official is one of the necessary steps to gain entry into West Point. Then you must get a letter of nomination, which usually comes from that same congressman, representative, etc.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

The story was Gary embellished his resume for president like Ben is doing.

That was not his "down fall"!

Were you even conscious at that time? Seriously!

Hart was a "shoe-in" for the Democratic nomination! His Washington-Mistress was "everyone's favorite" who was up in the higher levels of the State Department. His wife remained "home" respectfully quiet (ala Hillary). Then the "addict" got caught on camera off the coast of Florida frolicking with a Bimbo! Cheating on his mistress, who EVERYONE LOVED. He fucked himself with his obsession ... just like Bill did.

Henry Cisneros (Democrat, former San Antonio Mayor) did the same stupid shit. A "shoe-in" as the first Hispanic Governor of Texas, since Independence.

That's "the story"!

What "resume" for President? Do you have a "link" to Carson's "Resume for President"?

The bullshit being sprayed around in the social media and public media is decades old bullshit ...

... just like your headline .... for instance link the quote of Carson that matches your headline:

"Ben Carson admits making up West Point story."

[I B Hankering]

Originally Posted by i'va biggen

Did you say something Hillary?

Hildabeast said she tried to enlist in the Marine Corps, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Seems she was getting cold feet about marrying Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. WaPo gave her story two Pinocchios, Ekim the Inbred Chimp. Hildabeast is a bona fide liar, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, but you haven't troubled your lying-ass to make fifty plus posts asserting she is a liar the way you've done with Carson.

BTW, Ekim the Inbred Chimp, your lying-ass has not yet produced any substantive evidence that Carson lied, nor have you cited another bona fide news source that independently made the same false narrative that Politico did.

You were twice as drunk as usual, weren't you, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM. Hasa Diga twice, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM.