The Corrupt Ukraine Scam

[jmichael]

well .. great progress here. we've gone from Russia 100% at fault to "mostly at fault". now let's work on the truth .. it was 2/3 US/NATO expansion and 1/3 Russkie Commies got pissed about it and throw in Ukraine and you have .. this.

Is that the reason they invaded Crimea too? how about Afghanistan, years before?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Salty Again

.... WHY hasn't President Biden not negotiated a treaty
between Russia and Ukraine already?? ... How much $$$$
money has been sent to Ukraine? ... We don't know.

#### Salty

Because he knows Corrupt Ukraine has all the good on him and the illegal bribes he took.

So he is funneling US taxpayer money to them to keep them quiet (while at the same time getting a kickback from them on funds sent)

[HDGristle]

More progress

Ukraine’s recent success in breaking through mined territory near Tokmakin Zaporizhzhya Oblast is likely connected to the latest progress of the Ukrainian Armed Forces near Robotyne, believes U.S.-based thinktank Institute for the Study of War(ISW)on Aug. 19.

Followinga drone strike on the Russian Soltsy airbase in Novgorod Oblast on Aug. 18, it is plausible that Russia’s strategic aviation aircraft incurred damage. Images geolocated and released on Aug. 19show smoke emanating from the Soltsy airbase. Russian Defense Ministry sources and other Russian outletsreportedthat a Ukrainian drone was downed, and that fire potentially affected a single aircraft

[berryberry]

OOOOF

Ukrainians fear heavy casualties; US proxy warriors fear Ukrainians fearing heavy casualties.

[HDGristle]

It's a war. They aren't smacking each other with pillows, berry.

[HDGristle]

Russian forces in Ukraine have lost 12 tanks, 14 armored personnel vehicles and 19 artillery systems in just 24 hours

The 82nd Air Assault Brigade was pulled from reserve and has been supporting the efforts to liberate Robotyne.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

There’s no reason for Russia to be an enemy.

Lol. What a joke. Of course there is! But Putin owns trump, so I can understand why you say these things.

[HDGristle]

Further advances in Robotyne. Also, the Tu-22 bomber that was damaged a few days ago om a strike in Russia was confirmed by photos as a Tu-22 and it was absolutely lost rather than damaged.

Unclear if they got two, or just the one

[HDGristle]

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/m...ner-rcna101443

Article doesn't go into it, but multiple reports that Russian air defenses appear to have been employed to shoot down a plane carrying Evgeni Prigozhin, the Butcher of Bakhmut.

He must have been spending too much time on the ground floor.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/m...ner-rcna101443

Article doesn't go into it, but multiple reports that Russian air defenses appear to have been employed to shoot down a plane carrying Evgeni Prigozhin, the Butcher of Bakhmut.

He must have been spending too much time on the ground floor.

ADUH????????

Surprised?

Really?

[HDGristle]

https://www.newsweek.com/yevgeny-pri...leader-1822007


Oh. I'm not surprised, Devo. This is a great example of what happens when you put your faith in Vlad. Been waiting for the window drop or the poisoning, but taking out a plane with 9 other people on it is a dick move even for Putin.

[Devo]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.newsweek.com/yevgeny-pri...leader-1822007


Oh. I'm not surprised, Devo. This is a great example of what happens when you put your faith in Vlad. Been waiting for the window drop or the poisoning, but taking out a plane with 9 other people on it is a dick move even for Putin.

Muscles flexed, and, if it was nine of his other men, that's civil war for you.

But, you think innocents matter to either side?

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by HDGristle

https://www.newsweek.com/yevgeny-pri...leader-1822007


Oh. I'm not surprised, Devo. This is a great example of what happens when you put your faith in Vlad. Been waiting for the window drop or the poisoning, but taking out a plane with 9 other people on it is a dick move even for Putin.

One of the many reasons they ARE our enemies and should be. Putin and his regime of cold-blooded murderers, I mean. Not everyday Russian folks, of course.

[HDGristle]

Originally Posted by Devo

Muscles flexed, and, if it was nine of his other men, that's civil war for you.

But, you think innocents matter to either side?

They don't. The plethora of innocents his forces have slaughtered in Ukraine alone speak to that. Which is why you don't go around trusting Vlad to keep his word and appeasing him.

[tommy156]

I will say this, Vlad knows how to deal with anyone who attempts a coup. We should be taking notes.