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S O B · 05-23-2012, 07:03 AM

Can anyone tell me the purpose of the govt. classification white/hispanic on forms... without flaming preferably?

F-Sharp · 05-23-2012, 08:04 AM

New developments...it's not looking good for Georgie.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ing-fdle-agent

Witness 2: A young woman from the Retreat at Twin Lakes community, where Martin, 17, was shot Feb. 26, first told investigators she saw two men running and a fist fight. She later said she only saw one person running and couldn’t distinguish much because she had removed her contact lenses.

Witness 12: A young mother in the townhome community first said she saw two men on the ground but wasn’t sure who was on top; she later said Zimmerman was on top because she recognized his size based on news reports.

Witness 13: A male neighbor first said Zimmerman, with a bloodied head, told him he had to shoot Martin because “he was beating up on me,” and to please call Zimmerman’s wife. He later went into detail and described Zimmerman’s tone right after the shooting as casual, like the shooting was “nothing.”

Witness 6: A male neighbor, whose story change was initially reported Friday, first told police Martin was on top of Zimmerman and throwing down punches mixed martial arts style. He also first said Zimmerman was calling for help. The man later said he wasn’t sure who was yelling for help, and that Martin may have merely pinned Zimmerman to the ground. He was still sure, however, that Martin was on top.

Mike Vronsky · 05-23-2012, 08:26 AM

Its irrelevant. The forensics and medical reports substantiate that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Martin.

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Originally Posted by F-Sharp

New developments...it's not looking good for Georgie.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...ing-fdle-agent

Witness 2: A young woman from the Retreat at Twin Lakes community, where Martin, 17, was shot Feb. 26, first told investigators she saw two men running and a fist fight. She later said she only saw one person running and couldn’t distinguish much because she had removed her contact lenses.

Witness 12: A young mother in the townhome community first said she saw two men on the ground but wasn’t sure who was on top; she later said Zimmerman was on top because she recognized his size based on news reports.

Witness 13: A male neighbor first said Zimmerman, with a bloodied head, told him he had to shoot Martin because “he was beating up on me,” and to please call Zimmerman’s wife. He later went into detail and described Zimmerman’s tone right after the shooting as casual, like the shooting was “nothing.”

Witness 6: A male neighbor, whose story change was initially reported Friday, first told police Martin was on top of Zimmerman and throwing down punches mixed martial arts style. He also first said Zimmerman was calling for help. The man later said he wasn’t sure who was yelling for help, and that Martin may have merely pinned Zimmerman to the ground. He was still sure, however, that Martin was on top.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-23-2012, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by dante0322

Its irrelevant. The forensics and medical reports substantiate that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Martin.

To put it simply -- I don't think so. There has been no evidence released as of yet that would lead a sane person to come to that conclusion. Certainly some evidence supports Zimmerman's claims but not to the point to support that Zimmerman was totally justified in shooting Martin.

Since neither you nor I were there, why is it not possible that Zimmerman pulled his gun on Martin and Martin was protecting himself when he hit Zimmerman? What "evidence" do you have that this is not the way it went down?

Mike Vronsky · 05-23-2012, 09:26 AM

The evidence absolutely the evidence supports that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Martin.

Like I said. Go to a controlled environment and get your head beat in and then tell me how long of a beating you are going to take before you defend yourself. Then upload the results to YouTube so we can all see.

When Zimmerman was getting beat, head smashed against the wall what was there to make him think that Gang Banger Martin was going to stop. NOTHING. From Martin's history its evident that Zimmerman would be dead if he didn't defend himself.

In addition, it makes sense that people are changing their story now. The court records are / will be public records and with the fear of race mongers like Sharpton they want to distance themselves from this event. If Zimmerman is able to get a fair trial and JUSTLY acquitted say hello the the L.A. riots in Sanford, FL.

Support is now shifting to Zimmerman because intelligent people are able to decipher fact from fiction.

http://www.halfsigma.com/2012/05/lat...zimmerman.html

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

To put it simply -- I don't think so. There has been no evidence released as of yet that would lead a sane person to come to that conclusion. Certainly some evidence supports Zimmerman's claims but not to the point to support that Zimmerman was totally justified in shooting Martin.

Since neither you nor I were there, why is it not possible that Zimmerman pulled his gun on Martin and Martin was protecting himself when he hit Zimmerman? What "evidence" do you have that this is not the way it went down?

Dr. Pecker · 05-23-2012, 09:39 AM

I wonder what excuses f shart will make upon the release of forensic evidence.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-23-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by dante0322

The evidence absolutely the evidence supports that Zimmerman was justified in shooting Martin.

Like I said. Go to a controlled environment and get your head beat in and then tell me how long of a beating you are going to take before you defend yourself. Then upload the results to YouTube so we can all see.

When Zimmerman was getting beat, head smashed against the wall what was there to make him think that Gang Banger Martin was going to stop. NOTHING. From Martin's history its evident that Zimmerman would be dead if he didn't defend himself.

In addition, it makes sense that people are changing their story now. The court records are / will be public records and with the fear of race mongers like Sharpton they want to distance themselves from this event. If Zimmerman is able to get a fair trial and JUSTLY acquitted say hello the the L.A. riots in Sanford, FL.

Support is now shifting to Zimmerman because intelligent people are able to decipher fact from fiction.

http://www.halfsigma.com/2012/05/lat...zimmerman.html

Once again you've leapt, with no confirming evidence, that Martin was unjustified in attacking Zimmerman. HOW DO YOU KNOW? YOU WEREN'T THERE AND THERE WERE NO WITNESSES TO HOW IT ALL BEGAN? WHY CAN'T YOU ANSWER MY VERY SIMPLE QUESTION?

Since neither you nor I were there, why is it not possible that Zimmerman pulled his gun on Martin and Martin was protecting himself when he hit Zimmerman? What "evidence" do you have that this is not the way it went down?

And this statement:

From Martin's history its evident that Zimmerman would be dead if he didn't defend himself.

Exactly what in Martin's history would lead you to that conclusion? Again a totally unsubstantiated accusation

S O B · 05-23-2012, 10:37 AM

Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Found my answer. thanks anyway.

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-23-2012, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by S O B

Didn't mean to hijack the thread. Found my answer. thanks anyway.

Mind sharing your answer?

Mike Vronsky · 05-23-2012, 02:23 PM

Change of witness testimony problem for prosecution - good for defense
http://video.foxnews.com/v/165319461...ylist_id=87937

Prosecution acted illegally
http://video.foxnews.com/v/164776621...tcmp=obnetwork

What the new evidence says (this resolves speed racer's position that Zimmerman was not justified when he was).
http://video.foxnews.com/v/164521942...ylist_id=87262

Can you say NOT GUILTY!

nuglet · 05-23-2012, 02:23 PM

hmmmm.. How about this angle... Martin, while wrestling with Zimmerman, grabbed the gun, SHOT HIMSELF, knowing that zimmerman would be be blamed..and then start a race riot (as suggested elsewhere in this thread), leading to the annihilation of the Caucasian race. (you know they, the Caucasians, are a minority in the USA now). It's as reasonable as some of the BS being posted.

Dr. Pecker · 05-23-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dante0322

Change of witness testimony problem for prosecution - good for defense
http://video.foxnews.com/v/165319461...ylist_id=87937

Prosecution acted illegally
http://video.foxnews.com/v/164776621...tcmp=obnetwork

What the new evidence says (this resolves speed racer's position that Zimmerman was not justified when he was).
http://video.foxnews.com/v/164521942...ylist_id=87262

Can you say NOT GUILTY!

F shart will disregard all that because its fox news. He would rather it come from nbc.

S O B · 05-23-2012, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedRacerXXX

Mind sharing your answer?

hate to admit it was wikapedia. Still don't agree with the govt's precept. Speaking as a white american.

Dr. Pecker · 05-23-2012, 04:19 PM

I wanna know how this has affected crime in sanford, and that neighborhood in general. We have one burglar dead, but has the shooting been a deterrent in that area for other burglars?

SpeedRacerXXX · 05-23-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by nuglet

hmmmm.. How about this angle... Martin, while wrestling with Zimmerman, grabbed the gun, SHOT HIMSELF, knowing that zimmerman would be be blamed..and then start a race riot (as suggested elsewhere in this thread), leading to the annihilation of the Caucasian race. (you know they, the Caucasians, are a minority in the USA now). It's as reasonable as some of the BS being posted.

Thank you once again for your wonderful insight.