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05-03-2022, 06:38 AM
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Did she get permission from Putin to fly in? He controls Ukrainian airspace.
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05-03-2022, 09:48 AM
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Slava Ukraine, Comerade Whackov!
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05-03-2022, 10:04 AM
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Unfortunately trump fucked us as usual on this when he withheld weapons/training for political dirt. Fuck Trump and all the dumbfucks that support him.
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Ukrainian fucked Ukrainians more like it
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05-03-2022, 10:13 AM
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Thought it was more of a key party thing
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Ukrainian fucked Ukrainians more like it
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I thought it was more a of group thing, aka orgy and we had a few of our own in the pile. No?
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05-03-2022, 11:30 AM
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Unfortunately trump fucked us as usual on this when he withheld weapons/training for political dirt. Fuck Trump and all the dumbfucks that support him.
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LOL... you have to get up awfully early in the morning to get as stupid as you are...
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05-03-2022, 12:06 PM
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AKA ULTRA MAGA Gurl
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Fuck Ukraine!
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ftfy
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Ukrainian fucked Ukrainians more like it
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they reap what they sow
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LOL... you have to get up awfully early in the morning to get as stupid as you are...
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Obama sent Ukraine Red Cross blankies. Trump sent weapons. royboy watches CNN .. thinks it's Trump fault Russia invaded Ukraine on Biden's watch.
bhahahahaaaaaaa
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05-03-2022, 02:08 PM
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Well it is a gutsy mmove of a sort. The whole countryt is an actual war zone. The Russians could have dropped a rocket on her in a genuine mistake. If Hillery had come along there would, no doubt, have been "sniper fire:.
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05-03-2022, 04:05 PM
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LOL... you have to get up awfully early in the morning to get as stupid as you are...
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That’s a solid endorsement there, ah tell hew whut!
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05-03-2022, 04:34 PM
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Every Congress person interviewed in the last 6 weeks has stated "The just returned from Ukraine" How many of those stupid mf'ers do they have to send there? Guess it doesn't matter as long as taxpayers are picking up the tab.
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05-03-2022, 09:09 PM
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... It might be all fakery... Just like when they pretend
"President" Joe is giving s speech from the Oval Office.
Pelosi prolly in the "Ukraine" part of Northern California.
Zelensky prolly been there since March.
... I surely wouldn't believe ANYTHING this sorry administration
claims to be true... How can we?
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05-04-2022, 04:34 AM
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Every Congress person interviewed in the last 6 weeks has stated "The just returned from Ukraine" How many of those stupid mf'ers do they have to send there? Guess it doesn't matter as long as taxpayers are picking up the tab.
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In the mean time, Russia just keeps pounding away.
The Russian military tactic hasn’t changed much since WW-2. Pound the shit out of an area until there is no place to hide, or worth living in. Then send in the infantry, with no regard as to how many might get slaughtered, because there are more where they came from.
Order 227, Russian tradition.
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05-04-2022, 07:28 AM
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Fight or flight...
So you're saying the Russian tactics remain unchanged in the past 60 years and nobody told Zelenski this? I'm not up to date on the rules of engagement and have not read the entirety of the Geneva Convention in years, but don't the Ukrainians have the option to surrender still? I remember that being a prudent move when getting pounded in to the dirt. Dunno, maybe there are new rules these days.
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In the mean time, Russia just keeps pounding away.
The Russian military tactic hasn’t changed much since WW-2. Pound the shit out of an area until there is no place to hide, or worth living in. Then send in the infantry, with no regard as to how many might get slaughtered, because there are more where they came from.
Order 227, Russian tradition.
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05-10-2022, 11:00 AM
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Friendly reminder: The cover up is always worse tan the crime
So now they are actually saying the quiet part out loud and revealing the actual Truth. Of course, this had to be accidental, because
Because, if you knew the truth... well.. you know... the thing... Come on man. So it is looking like the whole, entirety of the Ukraine war is not just to cover up Russia-gate, but to bury Russia (Putin in particular) on someone else's soil and to distract us all from remembering Who was Where When and What they were doing and How they were doing it. ![](https://eccie.net/images/profile/57/1fedb4ca167e8c59cfd2ffaa65082b18.jpg)
If you are a chronic sufferer of TL;DR and TDS, just view the embedded quotes of the "players", aka actors. You will understand why We Support Ukraine.
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Tucker: Ukraine war is maybe the inevitable end stage of Russiagate
Tucker argues the Ukraine war is designed to create regime change in Moscow
Here's a happy memory. By breakfast, really even brunch, on Election Day 2016,, virtually nobody in Washington, D.C. thought Donald Trump could win, and they didn't think that because the entire press corps had been telling them for months that Trump had, as they always put it, literally no chance—not even as an abstract, theoretical matter.
This wasn't actually a race. In fact, come November 8th, you'll remember this. Donald Trump was going to be drowned by a towering blue tsunami and swept away forever, along with the rest of the Republican Party — the collaborators, anyway—and polling numbers seemed to confirm that this was going to happen and so, by the way, did the private betting markets. At least one of those markets had set the spread at 80-20 for Hillary Clinton that morning.
In the end, of course, they were not only wrong, they were hilariously wrong. By midnight, Trump had won and a lot of highly educated, extremely well credentialed people suddenly looked ridiculous. Hillary Clinton herself was so shocked by the results that night that she refused to give a concession speech. She went to bed hoping it was just a dream.
Now, you probably remember all of that very well, but it was what happened next in the days between the election and Thanksgiving that it turns out in a lot of ways was much more important.
What happened during that period set the course for where we are right now. Where we are right now is speeding toward one of the great disasters in our history. So, the leaders of the Democratic Party couldn't, in effect, handle the outcome of the 2016 election. They snapped under the strain of it, under the crushed expectation. But rather than look inward and assess their own role in the disaster —" What did we do wrong? Why did voters reject us?" and other questions that emotionally mature adults might have asked — Democratic leaders instead immediately set out to find somebody else to blame for the election results. And soon they settled on Russia.
Vladimir Putin got Donald Trump elected, they told us. Hillary Clinton said that repeatedly. Now, at first it was hard to take any of it very seriously. We tried, but there was no evidence it was true at all and so a rational person concluded the obvious. This was a childish psychological defense mechanism. It was not a factual claim and yet they kept saying it in the face of no evidence and over time they began acting on it like it was true. Then, even over more time, they paralyzed the entire federal government for years, fruitlessly trying to prove the core claims of Russiagate, but they never could because those claims weren't true. And yet, critically, they clung to those claims.
They never stopped repeating the talking point. The Russian government, "hacked our election." That was Jen Psaki not long ago, saying it out loud like it were true. Now, here's the context. As she said that, Psaki was trying to explain why the Biden administration is, in effect, working to overthrow the Russian government right now and for once, Jen Psaki was telling the truth. That is why. Democrats have convinced themselves that Russia stole the presidency, which rightfully belonged to Hillary Clinton, and they mean it when they say it. And that's why they are taking us to war with Russia.
Now, there are a lot of things going on here, a lot of threads as in any big story, but on some level, the core motivation is just that simple. Here's what we know it's not. We know the war in Ukraine is not about saving democracy. Please. We know it's not about protecting the sacred borders of a sovereign country. We know the Biden administration doesn't care about those principles because they run our country, and we see how they act. And we know for dead certain and this comes as sad news to a lot of Americans who are compassionate, but we know now that the war in Ukraine is certainly not about helping the Ukrainian people, those poor people. Many more Ukrainian civilians will die certainly, thanks to the Biden administration's policies.
If you wanted to save Ukraine, its people, its infrastructure, its nation, you would push for a settlement now. You would have done it two months ago, but they're not doing that. They've rejected it out of hand. So that's not their goal, saving Ukraine, saving human lives. No, that's not their goal. Instead, the war in Ukraine is designed to cause regime change in Moscow. They want to topple the Russian government. That would be payback for the 2016 election. So, this is the logical, maybe the inevitable end stage of Russiagate. Now, we should have seen this coming because they said it out loud years ago. Here's Adam Schiff from two years ago, predicting it, saying it. Watch this.
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SCHIFF: As one witness put it during our impeachment inquiry, the United States aids Ukraine and her people so that we can fight Russia over there and we don't have to fight Russia here.
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So, we arm Ukraine so we can fight Russia. Now, how many Americans (whatever you think of Putin, probably not much, justifiably. Probably don’t have a lot of interest in moving to Russia), but how many Americans then or now want to "fight Russia?" A very small group, but Adam Schiff said it out loud at the time in the House of Representatives. We don't arm Ukraine so we can help the Ukrainians. They're merely unfortunate pawns in all of this. We arm Ukraine so that we can punish Russia. Why? For stealing Hillary Clinton's coronation.
If only we had taken Adam Schiff seriously, as he said it again, and again, and again. But now we can't help but take Adam Schiff seriously because he's one of the prime movers of this war. Adam Schiff spent this weekend in Eastern Europe checking on the progress of the war he has done so much to bring about. He traveled there with Nancy Pelosi and a number of other of the most conspiracy-minded Democrats in Congress. These are the Russiagate true believers seeing their theory come to fruition. That's what this is. Here's the group, Pelosi, Schiff and the rest, meeting with the president of Ukraine.
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ZELENSKYY: Welcome. Nice to meet you. Thank you for coming.
PELOSI: My pleasure to see you.
MCGOVERN: Jim McGovern, Massachusetts.
ZELENSKYY: Nice to meet you thank you.
MEEKS: Good to see you again, Mr. President.
ZELENSKYY: Hi again good to see you too. You’re welcome.
CROW: Jason Crow from Colorado
ZELENSKYY: Nice to meet you.
SCHIFF: Adam Schiff from California. Honor to meet you
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How did Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi wind up in charge of America's foreign policy as we stand on the cusp of a third world war? And why are Republicans supporting them? What happens when you put people with a demonstrated lack of boundaries or self-control or wisdom in charge of something as important as the fate of nations? Well, here's what happens.
Watch as one after the other, the Democrats you just saw on tape, announce that this regime change is not nearly over. In fact, this war has just begun. Watch.
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CROW: But one thing is really clear that this delegation wanted to send, but also President Biden has made very clear with his most recent aid package request. It is a historic request that we're going to push hard in the United States Congress to help pass and it sends a very simple message. We are not interested in stalemates. We are not interested in going back to the status quo. The United States of America is in this to win and we will stand with Ukraine until victory is won.
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That was Congressman Jason Crow, a confirmed buffoon, telling us that we are not in it to achieve a stalemate. "We're?" Really? Some of us were under the impression, based on their public statements, that we were defending the sovereignty of another country, Ukraine, that it's not up to us, it's up to the voters of Ukraine because Ukraine is a democracy, but here's Congressman Crow telling us we're not going to accept a "stalemate." We're in it to win it. We're going to win. We're here until we get victory. Well, that raises the obvious question. What is winning? What is victory? How do we know when we've won? Well, Jason Crow didn't tell us and neither, by the way, did Nancy Pelosi. She just said, we're going to keep sending weapons to Ukraine "until the fight is done."
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PELOSI: We believe that we are visiting you to say thank you for your fight for freedom, that we are on a frontier for freedom and that your fight is in fight for everyone and so our commitment is to be there for you until fight is done.
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How did we get here exactly? Do you feel betrayed? If you're one of the millions of good-hearted Americans who put a Ukrainian flag pin on your lapel or put one in front of your house expressing solidarity with the poor, oppressed people of Ukraine, you probably didn't think you were signing up for this. Nancy Pelosi telling us we're in a war with a nuclear-armed power with no clear end date. Seen that movie before? Oh, we just finished one after 20 years in Afghanistan. Will it look like that? This is an open-ended conflict, said Nancy Pelosi. Just like the war on terror and just in case you missed it, they all repeated that line. Here's your nightmare again. Adam Schiff in charge of the war against Russia.
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SCHIFF: All of the freedom loving world has an interest in the outcome of this war and ensuring that Ukraine is victorious and we are determined to do everything in our power to make it so. We are proud to stand shoulder to shoulder with Ukraine and will until victory is won.
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These people are playing dress-up. They have no idea what they're talking about, and they don't care. They get to pretend to be statesmen for a day. But when Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi— again people with a demonstrated years long record of being willing to say anything for personal power, anything to improve the fortunes of their political party—when they're standing up with a foreign head of state saying, "Here's an open check, you fill in the number," you've got to wonder where this is going.
We know where it could go. This is the most reckless foreign policy in our lifetimes, in American history. You are watching a group of decadent, in some cases senile leaders, casually dismiss the consequences of going to war with the nuclear-armed nation, dismiss the consequences of nuclear war, like it's not even worth thinking about, but it is worth thinking about. They tell us daily, Vladimir Putin is evil and insane and that may well be true. But this same man has threatened to use nuclear weapons against the United States and western Europe if this continues and why don't we believe him? You may have missed this. The New York Times didn't seem to have time to cover it, but here's Russia's foreign minister just last week, underscoring the point...
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05-10-2022, 12:10 PM
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So you're saying the Russian tactics remain unchanged in the past 60 years and nobody told Zelenski this? I'm not up to date on the rules of engagement and have not read the entirety of the Geneva Convention in years, but don't the Ukrainians have the option to surrender still? I remember that being a prudent move when getting pounded in to the dirt. Dunno, maybe there are new rules these days.
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Just think if Winston Churchill would have had that attitude during “The Blitz”, when the Germans dropped bomb after bomb after bomb on the entire population of England for weeks on end.
I think his quote went something like……”we will fight them on the beaches, in the fields, in he cities, but we will never give up..
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...Gxk61mKvI83bLd
I guess he was just a Stupid old fool who should have just let The Nazi’s take over. After all, once you got past that Waging war/genocide/mass murdering thing, they weren’t so bad.
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05-10-2022, 12:24 PM
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GPS or map or fuzzy memory problem?
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...I guess he was just a Stupid old fool who should have just let The Nazi’s take over. After all, once you got past that Waging war/genocide/mass murdering thing, they weren’t so bad.
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I looked it up on the google maps. From the street view level, it appears those bombs were on his front lawn and just like random kids on his front lawn he would be justified to bellow: Get off my damned front lawn.
My fuzzy memory was that while those bombs were aerating his front lawn, we were sympathetic, yet uninvolved - until Japan aerated a few of our warships in our naval facilities front lawn. But who's to trust my fuzzy memory anyway?
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