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Old 08-17-2012, 02:55 PM   #16
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Doove that's kinda being a double standard don't you think?

The reason I blame that health and entitlement stuff on Obama is because we were told outright, these are ripple effects of the system getting ready for obamacare, and to be prepared because it would only get worse.

I don't care about the obama argument because it's absolutely and completely pointless. I don't believe anyone opinion of that guy will change on either side. If he cured Cancer AND AIDS this week, my opinion wouldn't change. I want to know how Romney is evil in the eyes of the left. Is it only Taxes? That's still all I'm hearing is Tax based. It's ok if that's all there is, I was just curious.
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Old 08-17-2012, 02:58 PM   #17
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Doove that's kinda being a double standard don't you think?

The reason I blame that health and entitlement stuff on Obama is because we were told outright, these are ripple effects of the system getting ready for obamacare, and to be prepared because it would only get worse.

I don't care about the obama argument because it's absolutely and completely pointless. I don't believe anyone opinion of that guy will change on either side. If he cured Cancer AND AIDS this week, my opinion wouldn't change. I want to know how Romney is evil in the eyes of the left. Is it only Taxes? That's still all I'm hearing is Tax based. It's ok if that's all there is, I was just curious.

theyre not ripple effects of anything

its a direct effect of the recession

I could expound, but you dont care.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:17 PM   #18
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I just said that .. not much gets by you does it


the A10 wasnt parked on the carrier after it landed on the carrier ???

now thats a good trick !!!!

the Viking ... sheesh
To the best of my knowledge the A-10 is not a carrier based or qualified aircraft so it is unlikely it ever landed on a carrier and therefore was not parked on a carrier.

If there is a navy guy out there that knows otherwise please feel free to correct me.

As for Romney's tax plan I have heard about the cuts for the rich from the democrats but they never discuss the reductions in deductions so that they are still paying about the same as a group. Obviously on an individual basis it will effect them differently.

As for the debt increasing, I dislike the slow response Romney has at getting it under control. The only thing far worse is Obama's plan to never balance the budget. So given the choice I will take slowly over never.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:21 PM   #19
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To the best of my knowledge the A-10 is not a carrier based aircraft so it is unlikely it ever landed on a carrier and therefore was not parked on a carrier.

If there is a navy guy out there that knows otherwise please feel free to correct me.

youre 100% correct


the bird on deck was a Viking ... I corrected myself then, and now.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:32 PM   #20
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Yeah, those are some real credible unbiased sources that you cite. LOL. Sounds like the typical Democratic talking points to me.
Asshole. You asked , you got.
Quote something "credible " to refute .
Otherwise, you're just being the fat kid.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:54 PM   #21
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The fat kid always has the best snacks.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:56 PM   #22
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CJ I agree with you. The government reps we spoke with, don't.
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Old 08-17-2012, 03:59 PM   #23
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CJ I agree with you. The government reps we spoke with, don't.

did you shower immediately after you got that close to them ?
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Old 08-17-2012, 04:07 PM   #24
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Asshole. You asked , you got.
Quote something "credible " to refute .
Otherwise, you're just being the fat kid.
You know I have only been posting in the sandbox for a couple of days now. But there is 1 thing I have noticed about you. You never sesm to contribute anything worthwhile to the discussion. All you can do is call people names, like "asshole" and "asswipe". You have some serious issues. You would be wise to get some help.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:04 PM   #25
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youre 100% correct


the bird on deck was a Viking ... I corrected myself then, and now.
Gotcha. Did not remember that the viking was an aircraft so I did not get all of your post.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:17 PM   #26
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his budget raises taxes on 98% of taxpayers

YOU.

his budget cuts federal spending and states that allocate $16 to feed their hungry will feel the brunt of the cuts.

thats YOU again.

His budget adds between 16-25% to Obamas already bloated debt ... ya like more debt?

just for starters
I wish that were true. Federal taxes MUST BE RAISED TO SAVE THE COUNTRY FROM UNSUSTAINABLE DEBT AND DEPRESSION.

Contrary to what everyone else on this board says [because they don't know the facts] Federal taxes haven't been this low for 60 years, and this is the sole reason why there's a colossal debt which is unsustainable.

Historically Federal taxes have collected about 19% of GDP. But because of all the tax cuts beginning in 1994 and continuing to today the Federal government has been collecting only about 15% of GDP in taxes since Bush took office in 2001.

This shortfall, primarily from the Bush cuts, is the sole reason why the debt has increased in scale over everything that happened until 2000.

The Federal government has historically spent about 20% of the GDP, but since 2009 because of increased spending associate with unemployment it's spending about 22%.

Yes taxes on the public have increased dramatically in the last thirty years....LOCAL TAXES! Not Federal income taxes, which have gone way down.

Most millionaires pay 15% or less.

Half the public pays ZERO......


btw...
In 1962 during Kennedy the Defense Dept. spent about half the Federal budget, and was about 10% of GDP.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:43 PM   #27
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Under Obama my fireman fathers pension was cut by 25%. How that happens I have no idea.

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Well that is a local or state issue. Has nothing to do with the Federal Government.


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I'd still take a Romney tax increase over an Obama ANYTHING.
He gets elected and has a majority in Congress , the rich will get a tax cut and you will foot the bill.

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. I want to know how Romney is evil in the eyes of the left. Is it only Taxes? That's still all I'm hearing is Tax based. It's ok if that's all there is, I was just curious.
Is it only taxes? That is like saying is it only AIDS. Cutting taxes like we have has only added to the deficit. The rich don't care, they will move their money , it is folks like you and me that will get to eventually foot the bill.

The rich are in the process of having a huge transfer of wealth out of this country. That is how raw Capitalism works, it has no loyalty to one's country or fellow citizens. He is no different that the investment bankers that nearly brought down the worlds economy. They look short term and bottom line.
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Old 08-17-2012, 06:47 PM   #28
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Well that is a local or state issue. Has nothing to do with the Federal Government.




He gets elected and has a majority in Congress , the rich will get a tax cut and you will foot the bill.

In the last thirty years state and local taxes and spending have soared, but in many states and localities that came to an abrupt end after 1998.

Here in Austin, Texas, tax rates and spending by the city and county are back on the rise after three years of little increase. They're back to throwing around money again like there's no tomorrow.
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Old 08-17-2012, 07:25 PM   #29
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Contrary to what everyone else on this board says [because they don't know the facts] Federal taxes haven't been this low for 60 years,
Not everyone.
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Yea, just the Tea wonkers think that!

Me and Jethro Bodine can do addition and subtraction better than all those cry babies combined!
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