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Old 04-05-2017, 10:46 PM   #16
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not really surprised bout that rebel ammo dump. eventually the law of averages catches up with the chance of their chemical stockpile getting hit.

unfortunately Trump is blaming Assad for something he did not do. I think this is more to due to the biases in the intelligence services who are still invested in the assad overthrow policy.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:45 AM   #17
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This horrific event is yet another smokescreen diversion from the Russia-Twitler love affair. We all know this is going to end in acts of war and the death of innocents.

But you idiots are swallowing this bullshit hook line and sinker. You want it to be true. You desperately NEED it to be true.

You'll believe anything that restores your cheaply bought faith in Twitler. No matter the cost.

Shame on you lying lemmings! The story is fake news.

And your emperor has no clothes.
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Old 04-06-2017, 07:52 AM   #18
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The FBI director said hildebeest was too stupid to be trusted to correctly and securely operate a computer. With that kind of *endorsement* for hildebeest, Trump was the natural choice for all but the most "#Grubered".





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Then you must be real happy with the state of affairs, IBIdiot.

I hear bringing back slavery is next on the agenda.

Chemical warfare, treason and daily violation of the Ten Commandments is OK with you if it means Clinton isn't in the White House.

Duuuurrrrrrrr. You're a stupid guy with his hands on his dictionary.
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Old 04-06-2017, 08:01 AM   #19
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not really surprised bout that rebel ammo dump. eventually the law of averages catches up with the chance of their chemical stockpile getting hit.

unfortunately Trump is blaming Assad for something he did not do. I think this is more to due to the biases in the intelligence services who are still invested in the assad overthrow policy.
Are you changing your alliance from Trump to Putin?
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Old 04-06-2017, 09:12 AM   #20
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The FBI director said hildebeest was too stupid to be trusted to correctly and securely operate a computer. With that kind of *endorsement* for hildebeest, Trump was the natural choice for all but the most "#Grubered".





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A choice between Dumb or Dumber....is not a choice , nor is not voting for either 'Grubered' ....one might call it integrity.



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Old 04-06-2017, 12:07 PM   #21
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Then you must be real happy with the state of affairs, IBIdiot.

I hear bringing back slavery is next on the agenda.

Chemical warfare, treason and daily violation of the Ten Commandments is OK with you if it means Clinton isn't in the White House.

Duuuurrrrrrrr. You're a stupid guy with his hands on his dictionary.
Assad was gassing people on Odumbo's watch while hildebeest was Secretary of State, you Mussulman-luvin, Hitler worshipping, lying, hypocritical, racist, cum-gobbling golem fucktard, HDDB, DEM ... cite where you were ranting and raving when that happened, you hypocritical piece of shit.



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A choice between Dumb or Dumber....is not a choice , nor is not voting for either 'Grubered' ....one might call it integrity.
But heretofore you've always been so fond of Hobson's choice??? The 'Deep State' was alive and well with Odumbo and hildebeest. It was time for it to pulled up by the roots.
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But heretofore you've always been so fond of Hobson's choice??? The 'Deep State' was alive and well with Odumbo and hildebeest. It was time for it to pulled up by the roots.
So the deep state runs the government. ..how was anything either Clintons or Obama's fault then.

Are you saying you voted to blow up one form of corrupt government to be replaced with a corrupt form of government you approve.

That sounds like one helluva rationalization for voting for Trump!

You do realize that that is all these elections are???? My form of corruption is better than yours...
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So the deep state runs the government. ..how was anything either Clintons or Obama's fault then.

Are you saying you voted to blow up one form of corrupt government to be replaced with a corrupt form of government you approve.

That sounds like one helluva rationalization for voting for Trump!

You do realize that that is all these elections are???? My form of corruption is better than yours...
Lois Lerner, John Koskinen, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, etc., were all Odumbo and hildebeest deep-state apparatchiks who used the power of the state to discourage and defeat those who would seek to challenge their party's authority.
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Old 04-06-2017, 01:46 PM   #24
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Lois Lerner, John Koskinen, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, etc., were all Odumbo and hildebeest deep-state apparatchiks who used the power of the state to discourage and defeat those who would seek to challenge their party's authority.
So those are deep state operatives?

Wtf do you think Trump is going to do?

Damn IB , we do not always agree what is the best direction forward but you've never been naive. Don't start now with this Trump is the answer crap.


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The problem with Syria today can be traced back to when President Obama failed to take action and back up his infamous "red line in the sand" pronouncement.

The Russians were not nearly entrenched in Syria at that time. Now, four years later, there are Russians everywhere. Assad is their guy, and they will protect his Regime. Any military action will in all likelihood turn into a direct confrontation with the Russians.

That puts President Trump in quite a quagmire. Any military action will pose a sure danger of direct conflict with some arm of the Russian Military.

He is right. President Obama left him a mess.
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So those are deep state operatives?

Wtf do you think Trump is going to do?

Damn IB , we do not always agree what is the best direction forward but you've never been naive. Don't start now with this Trump is the answer crap.


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Hobson's Choice. Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams were not on the ballot.
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Hobson's Choice. Thomas Jefferson and John Quincy Adams were not on the ballot.
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The problem with Syria today can be traced back to when President Obama failed to take action and back up his infamous "red line in the sand" pronouncement.

The Russians were not nearly entrenched in Syria at that time. Now, four years later, there are Russians everywhere. Assad is their guy, and they will protect his Regime. Any military action will in all likelihood turn into a direct confrontation with the Russians.

That puts President Trump in quite a quagmire. Any military action will pose a sure danger of direct conflict with some arm of the Russian Military.

He is right. President Obama left him a mess.
You are not telling the whole history...It did not appear the House would go along and the public sure as fuck did not want to intervene. What has changed?


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House reaction[edit]

Before the authorization bill had even been drafted in the Senate, much less voted upon, there were already doubts being raised about whether any such measure would pass in the House.[33] Prior to Obama's announcement that he would seek Congressional approval, there had already been House Republicans that had announced their opposition to intervention in Syria, arguing that the civil war did not pose a threat to the United States.[33] Doubts about the ability of any legislation authorizing a strike to pass in the House continued over the following week.[2] The House Armed Services Committee was scheduled to hear from Secretary of State John Kerry about the need for strikes on Syria at a hearing on September 10, 2013.[2]
Newspaper The Hill released a whip list with information on which Senators and Representatives had announced their support or opposition for an American military intervention in Syria.[44] On September 9, the whip list stood at:
  • Yes/Leaning Yes: 31 (21 Democrats, 10 Republicans)
  • Undecided/Not Clear: 92 (71 Democrats, 21 Republicans)
  • No/Leaning No: 144 (109 Republicans, 35 Democrats)
The Washington Post also created its own whip count of where the votes stand on Syria.[45] Their count on September 13th stood at:
  • Yes: 25 (17 Democrats, 8 Republicans)
  • Undecided: 145 (111 Democrats, 34 Republicans)
  • Leaning No: 101 (38 Democrats, 63 Republicans)
  • Against: 162 (34 Democrats, 91 Republicans)
A proposed alternative bill favored by Democratic Representatives Chris Van Hollen and Gerald E. Connolly would impose restrictions on President Obama significantly tighter than the Senate bill.[32] Under their proposal, the president would only be allowed one round of missile strikes, with possible additional strikes in the event of additional chemical weapons attacks.[32]
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Popular Opinion[edit]

A CNN/ORC International poll was released on September 9, 2013 with data about U.S. attitudes towards Syria and the possibility of U.S. military intervention.[46] The poll revealed that a "strong majority" of citizens do not want Congress to authorize a military strike against the Assad government.[46] Over 70% of respondents did not believe that a military strike would achieve US goals, and a similar percentage do not believe it is in the United States' national interest to intervene
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:54 AM   #29
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Lois Lerner, John Koskinen, Susan Rice, Eric Holder, Loretta Lynch, etc., were all Odumbo and hildebeest deep-state apparatchiks who used the power of the state to discourage and defeat those who would seek to challenge their party's authority.
you know john koskinen is still there as IRS chief.
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Old 04-07-2017, 03:56 AM   #30
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Are you changing your alliance from Trump to Putin?
i'm still with trump & putin
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