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07-25-2019, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by B Three
Nope...I don’t think anyone misunderstood.
Reread Anon01’s excellent post. When you go to leave, tip and ask if you can see her again. If she says yes, ask if you can use her for an occasional reference.
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AWWWW.... Thanks! (blushing) I just got into a major pissing match in another thread on IOP with two hobbyists that insisted that the ONLY thing motivating providers is $$$$. I took issue with that, while some are (no judgment). Most of the providers I return to see aren't afraid to allow themselves the full range of emotion, including genuine passion.
My criticizers seemed to think that IOP was the hobby grail and that any genuine emotion on the part of a provider was "faked". Condescending and demeaning to both myself and the fine ladies who have chosen to spend time with me....
Just my $0.02.
Anon out.
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07-25-2019, 11:44 AM
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#17
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It's true!
Right on! Thankfully, most of the gentlemen that I visit is memorable in one way or another
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Nope...I don’t think anyone misunderstood. The point is the good and generous clients are easily remembered. If you want some random gimmick, then leave a two dollar bill or a specific other trinket and you can forever be known as “The two dollar bill guy.” But I can tell you, if you sit on a lady’s couch and talk a bit about yourself, most ladies will remember you. If you’re seeing someone who sees 5+ guys a day, she probably doesn’t have much time to be your reference anyway.
Reread Anon01’s excellent post. When you go to leave, tip and ask if you can see her again. If she says yes, ask if you can use her for an occasional reference.
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07-25-2019, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Aug 20, 2010
Location: From hotel to hotel
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Originally Posted by DunnJackNoff
Thanks for your input- but...
The third word in my comment was “some” (missed the point). I read all all of them and yes there were a few good suggestions. But my point is if I say “Hey, I was the guy who was punctual and clean and treated you with respect”, I don’t think that will be enough to make her know who I am in most cases.
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People are trying to answer your question, but you want them to tell you something different. Anon and Tia ARE giving you the right kinds of answers, but if you want more of a "how do I ask so they will remember", try this:
--e-mail them the very first time with a well thought out message, not a form-filler request for a date. It doesn't need to be long, but it should give her the info she needs AND is more personal BUT NOT CRUDE.
--after your date, send a short thank you note. Sincere, personal, and again brief and not crude.
--when you want to use her as a reference, do a "respond" to your earlier e-mail above. That, plus how you treated her, will be all you can reasonably do to jog her memory.
If you are fortunate enough to have some dates with ladies from different cities--or some ladies who travel--then ask the lady from Denver if she would be a reference for you to see a lady in Chicago. It reduces any jealousy.
The keys are to act with respect, be real and therefore memorable, and plan ahead. It is an investment in a little though and thoughtfulness much more so than an investment of money.
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07-25-2019, 11:49 AM
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Coming from a true gentleman who gets it!
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0. Be meticulously clean and close shaven. (Yes, down there too.) Pay particular attention to your backside, Wash your entire body and your privates one more time. Use mouthwash.
1. Be genuinely respectful of their time, their screening procedures, and minor scheduling issues.
2. If they prefer to communicate via voice or email prior to a first meet, answer all of their questions. And genuinely ask, "What else would you like to know about me?" and answer honesty, assuming it doesn't compromise discretion.
3. Schedule a multi-hour appointment. Ask her what you can bring in the way of refreshments and snacks. A $20.00 bottle of Pinot Grigio and $15.00 of Lindt chocolates go a long way to demonstrating that you are listening to them and are committed to making them comfortable.
4. Spend some time chatting before the fireworks begin. Listen with intent. Ask for explanation. Don't argue about stupid shit like sports, politics, or religion. Ask her how she is doing and listen carefully to the tone as well as the words. If she's having a rough day, ask her how you can make it better. One lady I saw said that all of her appointments asked her to wear 4 - 5" high heels. (She was 6' without heels, so the effect was breathtaking!) But she said her feet hurt from wearing the heels, so I asked her if she would like a foot massage, and how she liked it. I worked on her feet and calves, and she said, "you're the first one that's offered to do that today." And then she used me in totally unnatural ways for the next two hours. I almost crawled out of the appointment.
5. Make it your priority to give her more pleasure than you receive. Let her know that you need her honest input to make that happen.
6. If you received truly excellent service, tip! I keep a loose $100.00 bill in my shirt pocket and place it just before I leave.
7. Ask her ask you are about to leave, "Honestly, no BS, did you enjoy yourself?" Depending on that answer, ask, "Would you see me again?"
8. Always, always, always be a gentleman.
There are many ladies I would not see again for the full gamut of reasons. But all said that they would be happy to see me again! And here's the kicker - when I've reached out to providers I haven't seen in 4-5 years, they all remember me!
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I adore you. I would love to meet you. It's gentlemen like you who absolutely curls my toes and I would most definately allow you to stay longer than the agreed timeframe.
Juliette
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07-25-2019, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Anonymous01
AWWWW.... Thanks! (blushing) I just got into a major pissing match in another thread on IOP with two hobbyists that insisted that the ONLY thing motivating providers is $$$$. I took issue with that, while some are (no judgment). Most of the providers I return to see aren't afraid to allow themselves the full range of emotion, including genuine passion.
My criticizers seemed to think that IOP was the hobby grail and that any genuine emotion on the part of a provider was "faked". Condescending and demeaning to both myself and the fine ladies who have chosen to spend time with me....
Just my $0.02.
Anon out.
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Don't let them bother you. They are probably just envious because they have been with the wrong ladies or got treated the way they have been treating the ladies and it bothers them that you have better luck than them. If this is the way you conduct yourself in this manner when visiting with certain ladies then I am sure you are a very memorable person. Please don't change. We ladies love men like you. Your personality and attitude is very refreshing. I am sure if the 2 of us met, I would never get bored of you. I love the non-rushed visits from my "special friends". And, I want to apologize to the gentlemen out there reading this that you have been burnt by some ladies that you now paint us all with the same brush. Some of us actually enjoy spending time with certain men. I sure do! I am as real as they come. I enjoy sharing a little bit about myself to the gentleman that I am spending time with and he shares a little bit about himself with me until we see each other again and we catch up with our lives with one another which I believe creates a very memorable experience. YOU OBVIOUSLY GET THAT! I still cry at a sad movie, I laugh at the funny ones. I love the attention that men give me and I love giving them special attention as well. Each person is special in his own way. That being said, I do have emotions and empathy no matter what the situation. The guys who have never experienced this experience with a lady in this business have obviously been seeing the wrong ladies for some reason or another or haven't found her because I guarantee that there are some REAL, TRUE AND GENUINE ladies out there who loves men like yourself. Besides, you can't fake certain things when spending time with gentlemen like yourself if you know what I mean. Just like men get an erection, us ladies has hidden signals that we are enjoying ourselves if you know what I mean. THE PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING BABY! LOL!
JUST MY $0.02 cents worth. Sorry to be so longwinded.
Juliette
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07-25-2019, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by DunnJackNoff
The third word in my comment was “some” (missed the point). I read all all of them and yes there were a few good suggestions. But my point is if I say “Hey, I was the guy who was punctual and clean and treated you with respect”, I don’t think that will be enough to make her know who I am in most cases.
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Your example is a bit silly. If you describe yourself in a way that literally 95% of the guys could describe themselves as...then of course that is not enough. That’s like working in a hospital and describing yourself as the guy in scrubs.
Be memorable and give a specific and accurate description and most ladies will remember.
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07-25-2019, 12:37 PM
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Location: The ATL
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I was going to try being a douche and then running out paying only half the donation.
Oh, you mean GOOD memories? ermm:
Oh, well, yeah...all the other stuff everybody is saying.
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07-25-2019, 01:38 PM
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Join Date: Oct 18, 2017
Location: Texas
Posts: 264
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Originally Posted by B Three
Your example is a bit silly. If you describe yourself in a way that literally 95% of the guys could describe themselves as...then of course that is not enough. That’s like working in a hospital and describing yourself as the guy in scrubs.
Be memorable and give a specific and accurate description and most ladies will remember.
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Exactly! It was meant to be silly-just like your guy in scrubs analogy. Of course no one would say that. I was just using that as an example of why all the comments about “just be a gentleman” didn’t really address the question -the way I intended it. I think most of us “think” we are being gentlemen .....wait- maybe I should just speak for myself ...I’m always a gentleman even if I am somehow disappointed, I’m still respectful. Thanks for all of the comments.
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07-25-2019, 01:46 PM
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You’re missing the point. People are telling you to be a gentleman and you will likely be remembered. They aren’t telling you to simply identify yourself as “the gentleman.”
Are you not on P411? When a guy sends an okay request there is a spot to make a comment stating “how she will remember you?” It’s extremely helpful.
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07-25-2019, 01:59 PM
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Join Date: Oct 18, 2017
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by B Three
You’re missing the point. People are telling you to be a gentleman and you will likely be remembered. They aren’t telling you to simply identify yourself as “the gentleman.”
Are you not on P411? When a guy sends an okay request there is a spot to make a comment stating “how she will remember you?” It’s extremely helpful.
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Yes Ma’am..I got the point- the first time every time.
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07-25-2019, 02:55 PM
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Join Date: Feb 9, 2014
Location: Austin, TX
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Yep!
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Originally Posted by Gfe Juliette
Besides, you can't fake certain things when spending time with gentlemen like yourself if you know what I mean. Just like men get an erection, us ladies has hidden signals that we are enjoying ourselves if you know what I mean.
Juliette
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Yes, lady's signals are much more subtle than an erection, but pretty obvious when you get to know them.... like when I come up for air, so to speak, and there's that beautiful pink blush on her upper chest and neck...
There are a couple more obvious, but we won't give away all our secrets,will we?
(Wink, wink emoji)
Thanks for your replies! The board is a much better place when we hear from the ladies!
Anon.
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07-25-2019, 03:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 31, 2012
Location: Tulsa and other places
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You want something "free"? How about some fun under clothes. Like you are the guy with the Marvel boxers. Or the guy with Pokemon socks.
Pay attention to what she compliments or comments on about you. THAT is your how to be remembered.
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07-25-2019, 03:14 PM
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Choose Your Gypsy
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If this IS for references later on the down the road, most have a no reference older than xxx policy.
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07-25-2019, 04:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 18, 2017
Location: Texas
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Pay attention to what she compliments or comments on about you. THAT is your how to be remembered.
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Excellent advice.Thank you.
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07-25-2019, 04:19 PM
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be memorable
use ta be a bar in ROC many lady's of the evening hung out
one guy only showed up a few times a year, but liked, hated, ran from, every gal remembered him
not sure if it was the out of state Ambulance he showed up in. Or wanted ta do the deed in back of in a body bag. Whatever, they all remembered him
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