New Screening Requirements. Guess its time for me to retire!

[RetiredSubmariner]

I recently had to scan my Driver's License, my Military ID card, and my US passport, to comply with demands from a bank.

I really dont mind sending someone proof of who I am.

Since joining ECCIE a couple of the providers have started conversations with me that eventually shifted over to Facebook. I know their Real World names and family members, and they know mine. I even offered one provider a fulltime job working for my company.

The way I see it. If I am going to have a relationship with another person, we need to begin sharing details.

[TailHooked]

I agree your safety is important. Still a real ID isn't foolproof. A sting in the Kansas City metro used a guys drivers license. He was caught by a police decoy. They used his Eccie handle, reviews, references from ladies he had just seen and a photo of his Kansas Drivers License. They picked up quite a few girls. Besides if you delete all these guys info Erika, do they have to submit a ID every time?

[KosherCowboy]

Originally Posted by DNinja69

One of the great things about this 'hobby' we all enjoy (well most of us have fun with it) is the variety of flavors on the menu. If a provider believes that she needs my RW info, I.D., phone number, employment info, she is no longer on my menu.

I respect her choice to do business her way, we just won't be doing any business together. If a guy feels he 'has to' give up this info, no dude you don't. Not at all. You have choices, and in this business we all take on some risk. Do what you are comfortable with, think with your BIG head until its time to let the little head get to work.

well said, if a guy with a good reputation, vouches, a history of no issues etc is asked to provide his shoe size, his grandfather's passport number and his mortgage payoff to get an appointment he should tell the girl ( politely) ' I am moving on to another option, thanks for your time.' I choose those 3 odd items as IMHO they are as stupid as giving up all the other RW info. Simply put they don't need it; in 30 years I haven't needed it yet.

Like you I respect a girls right as some girls have said to screen as they wish for their comfort. Their business, their lives, their bodies, their choice.

As is mine to walk away and find another. As can she. In the end I am happy as I will always find a girl and in all fairness to the girls they will find a guy who screens as they wish...

Win-win

[Randall Creed]

She can also change her mind at the last minute, too...after he has surrendered his info.

I'm not trying to downplay ladies' comfort level with these encounters. It's just that it goes both ways. And in many cases, when guys book, we're not even talking to the lady herself. Third party booking. What info are THEY stashing to the side, unbeknownst to the provider(s) they book for?

[omg_lol]

Unfortunately I’ve seen too many times on Twitter (primarily) and others where ladies have outed or dropped dox on real world information on gentlemen for reasons other than safety. I used to be one of those guys who happily provided RW info until I saw it numerous times where it was used against them for reasons other than safety. For that reason, if my p411 information and numerous okays are not sufficient, I have no choice but to move on for my safety.

Stay safe out there everybody, men and women alike.

[averageguy12367]

To simplify this whole discusion, if you want to see a companion, you will do what she asks or she won't see you. There are always others available who will screen very little or not at all and you have the choice to see any of them as long as you abide by their rules.

[KosherCowboy]

Originally Posted by averageguy12367

To simplify this whole discusion, if you want to see a companion, you will do what she asks or she won't see you.

For the most part yes but when there is a will there is a way. I once wanted to see an Austin girl, emailed her ( we had emailed a good year prior times just did not mesh) but this time she had a booker. I refused to fill out the form or give up the info. The booker told me only way to see her was to go thru her. I told her I don't screen the way she wants and bookers are pimps. Only two people need to know who I see, me and the girl. I told this booker to get lost using a four letter word..

Knowing the doubles partner of the girl I sent her a note, told her the situation and she put me in contact with the girl who was thrilled I wanted to see her and she honored the discount she offered prior. She was also happy not to have the pay the booker for that appt nor the room fee. I can't stand bookers. Any girl with a booker is out, or I will find my own way in....Booker=managed=pimp=out ! In these cases I will search for the girl on her own and if I can find her it is than once again her option to see me or screen how she wants w/o the 3rd party interference.

and in the case above I circumvented nothing but a glorified pimp; the girl agreed on her own to see me and a third girl helped us both circumvent the dirtball in the middle.

and of course the girl who played middle(woman) was rewarded with an appointment too.

[Gabrielle]

If you don't wanna tell me your name...then I don't want your wee willy wanker anywhere near me TBH.

Nobody wanted to stand up AGAINST FOSTA/SESTA because it didn't really matter to clients...but now...wacha think? Maybe you should have spent some of that cash you have to support folks who are standing for policy change? You can still do this BTW.

[Erika Castro]

TailHooked How I say my screening process is more hard, I do not only ask for and ID, if you see my booking form in my website you can see that ask for real info and I verify all info with some tools. Obviously always will exist the risk due the ugly bad people with mental sickness are looking always ways to cheat.

I delete/ destroy all info not only for he clients but for me too, while my computer have a hard password to access i do not want risk, I do not need problems I do not want problems. So when the session end and before the clients leave I ask them if they wish I save their number phone or their email for future meetings, if they prefer I save their email, I will delete the content but keep the email with a star mark it means I met with the client and was safe, polite, clean easy going, generous etc. If the gentleman prefer i saved the number I will delete the content if we previously texted and will saved the number with some personal codes (numbers) that help me to know if the clients was easy going, clean, generous polite, fun, etc. So if they contact me back do not need make a screening process again, just email me or text me, give the appt details and be agree with my decorum and policies.

So the screening process is only one time, ID and work info is only one time, but if the gentleman take more than a year to no contact me, i will required he sent me again the screening form.

A lot of bad humans being tries to cheat me with fake info and it made me be scared, exactly for bad experiences so, i prefer be very low volume model companion but with clients of quality humans being.


I apologize for me English I use Google translate


Regards,

[Gabrielle]

Originally Posted by omg_lol

if my p411 information and numerous okays are not sufficient, I have no choice but to move on for my safety.

Stay safe out there everybody, men and women alike.

Unfortunately, p411 was sold...along with all your info. P411 guys need screened just as much as anyone from any other sites.

P411 no longer means you get a pass from screening.

[royamcr]

Originally Posted by RetiredSubmariner

I recently had to scan my Driver's License, my Military ID card, and my US passport, to comply with demands from a bank.

I really dont mind sending someone proof of who I am.

Since joining ECCIE a couple of the providers have started conversations with me that eventually shifted over to Facebook. I know their Real World names and family members, and they know mine. I even offered one provider a fulltime job working for my company.

The way I see it. If I am going to have a relationship with another person, we need to begin sharing details.

Was the bank giving you a BJ?

[slickrick281]

+1
I agree with you OP

[Gfe Juliette]

DITTO!

Originally Posted by Erika Castro

I do not want meet with a stranger that hurts me, hit me, rapped me, stole, stalker, harassing, threaten, kill me, LE etc.
Why trusting our life, our body, our intimacy to a stranger that not give real information. Not any money will make my family happy if the stranger kill me.

I am in Washington DC, where my regular clients are very important people very polite generous and respectful gentlemen, all pass my screening process, I delete the info after the screening and never a problem with them and still visiting me. While they are important people in the society they do not have nothing criminal to hide, just show me that are mental healthy and safe for meet and have fun.

Men who do not want screening can go to the next model companion who do not ask them nothing. But not try to violate our rules and not come to us with excuses and feeling that their life is more important that us. I do not going to give my time and body to a criminal, i need to be sure that the future client is a gentleman in all ways, a normal mental healthy person.

I care about my family, my clients and my self, my screening process is required for all.

A lot of men do not want be screening because are blacklisted or because have bad intentions, because want to cheat the ladies or because like to stalker, harass or threaten the ladies in several ways this s why they do not want screening because want to be anonymous for hurt the companions without be recognize for nobody.


Saying that i do not give information because I am married or i am important person is just a excuse, I do not need the real info for call the wife and make them divorce, I want the real info for be sure that i going to meet with a good human being, I do not take the info for blackmail, harass or all those ugly things, just for be safe, for feel comfortable. How feel safe and conformable with someone that you do not know neither his real name?





I pass for all those creatures. I do not enjoy the misogyny narcissist men. No all money is good money.



The ladies have much more to lost, unfortunately after mad experiences the ladies need to be safe. It will be low volume provider, but ...



The good thing about this screening is that we meet with high class gentlemen and everything is plenitude with those gentlemen, I love them.

[DNinja69]

Originally Posted by Erika Castro

I do not going to give my time and body to a criminal, i need to be sure that the future client is a gentleman in all ways, a normal mental healthy person.

Saying that i do not give information because I am married or i am important person is just a excuse, I do not need the real info for call the wife and make them divorce, I want the real info for be sure that i going to meet with a good human being, I do not take the info for blackmail, harass or all those ugly things, just for be safe, for feel comfortable. How feel safe and conformable with someone that you do not know neither his real name?

I know what you meant, but the concept of not wanting to hang with criminals made me laugh out loud. Maybe this 'hobby' is more legal in DC than I remember.

Originally Posted by Gabrielle

If you don't wanna tell me your name...then I don't want your wee willy wanker anywhere near me TBH.

Nobody wanted to stand up AGAINST FOSTA/SESTA because it didn't really matter to clients...but now...wacha think? Maybe you should have spent some of that cash you have to support folks who are standing for policy change? You can still do this BTW.

Now Gabrielle (if that is your 'real' name) would not the flow of cash to oppose Fosta/Sesta staart with providers? Ultimately this affects supply and last I checked you are in the business, not your clients. Just saying

The real issue of providing RW info is one of risk vs reward. Some markets are different, and deep screening more important im some areas than others. But the notion that our info is safe in the hands of a sweet lady who just wants to please us is nonsense. Whether the info is gathered by subpoena/warrant or by a nosy client or other provider that finds your laptop open and on while you run to the bathroom for a quick rinse off. Of the possible issues that could come up from personal info getting into the wrong hands, which of those are you fellas willing to risk?

As for the screening process, are you tapped into a national database? Something that includes info from the 90's or before? Even then this only tells you what someone has been charged with.

I support screening in whatever ways a provider wishes. I don't partake of all the methods, but I understand the reasons why girls use them. But telling me its safe to give providers RW info is just a hopeful guess at best.

[Old-T]

Originally Posted by Gabrielle

If you don't wanna tell me your name...then I don't want your wee willy wanker anywhere near me TBH.

Nobody wanted to stand up AGAINST FOSTA/SESTA because it didn't really matter to clients...but now...wacha think? Maybe you should have spent some of that cash you have to support folks who are standing for policy change? You can still do this BTW.

I have no problem with you setting your screaning criteria. That's your call and do what keeps you safe.

But please cut out the "Nobody wanted to stand up AGAINST FOSTA/SESTA because it didn't really matter to clients..." BS. I suspect you don't have any idea what I or others did as far as "standing up".

This is much less about the ladies vs the clients, much more about both of us vs the Thumpers and the Progressive Feminists who hate everything about each other--OTHER THAN THIS ONE ISSUE.