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laserface · 02-13-2014, 12:37 AM

I agree that it's a good strategy to have a baseline for what has to happen in a session in order for a review to get PA credit. But following on to the point Devo made about "ripoff reviews", and Pistolero's follow-up:

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A bad provider or rip off do receive credit, if activities took place and all other conditions met. Does not have to be a positive review.

I think part of Devo's point is that rip off reviews should maybe be considered for credit even if no "activities" took place, particularly in an instance where there was some kind of representation (if perhaps oblique or indirect) that some "activities" would be made available, but none actually were.

It's hard to draw a solid line with these (and I understand that presents a problem for evaluating review approvals). But there is a certain type of "ripoff pseudo-provider" (or, usually, agency) that kind of makes it's fortune on leading potential clients to believe that certain types of services will be available, knowing full well they don't intend to do so. Like (to create a strawman example, that's actually similar to a service that is currently operating in the Pittsburgh area....), if there is a hypothetical service that charges clients $200 to have a lady visit them, and prior to the appointment won't discuss anything about the actual services other than something like, "Trust me, you'll be happy in the end..." - then the client makes the appointment, pays the money, and finds it only includes a no-touch striptease and nothing else.... Personally, I think that someone who TOFTT's and honestly reports the experience, potentially saving other members time, money, and disappointment, should be rewarded with PA credit for that.

In other words, I would advocate for a guideline that evaluates not only whether any activities took place, but whether (based on all the information available at the time) the hobbyist went into the session having been led to believe that activities would occur, or with a reasonable expectation that certain activities would be offered. (So, like, nobody should go into a legitimate spa or something, post a review that says "I paid my money, didn't get HR, and didn't even get to touch the girl! This is a ripoff!", and expect PA credit for that - because no reasonable person would expect that at a legit spa). I know it's not necessarily that simple, and a certain amount of discretion would need to be applied. But I think it's something that's worth revisiting at some point, and maybe thinking about whether to existing rules should change to account for this. Because without the possibility of PA credit, there's really no incentive for anyone to expose services that are truly 100%, "no activities available" ripoffs, other than just out of the goodness of their hearts.

Pistolero · 02-13-2014, 09:50 AM

Very good points, laserface. And, I agree with a large part of it.

Couple of things come to mind on this. As I have said, our rules and guidelines are site wide, to insure you know what to expect wherever you might be. I looked, and there are 2 moderators who have each processed over 200 reviews in the last 7 days. I do not do that many, but they take up a lot of time. Once there are variables introduced, time extends. Fact of life.

Think of this also. " Because without the possibility of PA credit, there's really no incentive for anyone to expose services that are truly 100%, "no activities available" ripoffs, other than just out of the goodness of their hearts." The incentive is there, altho it may not be easy to see. If the guy before you had written a review on his visit, would you even have been there to get a bad experience? It is not a self-serving process, but a community service to write reviews like that. If you get ripped off and do not post about it, then you are setting the next guy up to get ripped off. And the rip-off artists continue to prey on people not in the know.

But, a review is not necessary. If danger was involved, do an alert. If just a ripoff with no BCD activities, post in coed. There is no problem with a coed post saying I was told this and then this happened. So, put them on blast. Of course, they may never agree to see you after that, but who gives a shit. We have had some 10 page discussions after a coed post on bad service in Houston.

You may have noticed, we do not close many threads or edit much. Do a sorta respectful post and let people know.

mreven70 · 02-13-2014, 12:07 PM

Would a person gain PA status receiving BCD from a craigslist add ? granted if the person agreed to advertisement?

Pistolero · 02-13-2014, 03:08 PM

It does not matter if the provider is a member here or not. Have a qualifying appt and write the review. Someone who is not a member here can not have a no review policy here. If a provider advertises anywhere, they can not have a no review policy on Eccie.

If a provider has a no review policy, they can not have a showcase here either.

Big Stig · 02-13-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistolero

It does not matter if the provider is a member here or not. Have a qualifying appt and write the review. Someone who is not a member here can not have a no review policy here. If a provider advertises anywhere, they can not have a no review policy on Eccie.

If a provider has a no review policy, they can not have a showcase here either.

AmishGangster · 02-13-2014, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Pistolero

It does not matter if the provider is a member here or not. Have a qualifying appt and write the review. Someone who is not a member here can not have a no review policy here. If a provider advertises anywhere, they can not have a no review policy on Eccie.

If a provider has a no review policy, they can not have a showcase here either.

Nice. Sorry BSer, no showcase for your husky ass!!!!!!!!

bambino · 02-13-2014, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by amishgangster

Nice. Sorry BSer, no showcase for your husky ass!!!!!!!!

Fat ass. FIFY

Pistolero · 02-13-2014, 08:27 PM

Remember the rules for this thread.

eaglehorse · 02-13-2014, 08:28 PM

BSErs is not fat, He is Tall, Tan, and Handsome.......

Mickeymo · 02-13-2014, 08:44 PM

Sorry but I don't write reviews anymore because not everything you ask can be done. I wrote two good reviews and got no credit because of "contact info missing" that was given in the back page ad. The contact info "was" given in the ad. I can't help it if you don't go to the link, which I did give, and read the contact info in the ad. Sometimes providers don't give, or want given, the info you require. I won't waste time any more. No hard feelings Pisto, you are doing your job, but the reviews are getting mighty slim here in Pa. It is almost like reading tuesdays paper on friday. No more reviews for me. Just my opinion.

OMGitsHuge · 02-13-2014, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mickeymo

Sorry but I don't write reviews anymore because not everything you ask can be done. I wrote two good reviews and got no credit because of "contact info missing" that was given in the back page ad. The contact info "was" given in the ad. I can't help it if you don't go to the link, which I did give, and read the contact info in the ad. Sometimes providers don't give, or want given, the info you require. I won't waste time any more. No hard feelings Pisto, you are doing your job, but the reviews are getting mighty slim here in Pa. It is almost like reading tuesdays paper on friday. No more reviews for me. Just my opinion.

I save the mods from having to answer this one. A BP ad is not contact info. BP ads come and go. I see a lot of them just disappear into thin air. Once the BP ad goes down us fellow hobbiest have no way of contacting the provider. You contacted the girl somehow so just post the phone number, email, or web address you used. Even a link to an INDYS or a P11 profile is an acceptable contact. Why is that such a hard concept to understand?????

Mickeymo · 02-13-2014, 10:27 PM

I know what you are saying is what is what is required. Won't argue with you on that. I am just saying, if the provider uses an email contact only, that is what I will give, never a phone number. Here is a question. Have you ever seen a phone number for Lovely Lauryn? no. Why? I would like one so I could contact her, but respect her wishes if that is how she wants it. I could give three good reviews, but won't do it any more. Why should I if it will only be rejected. Just my opinion.

OMGitsHuge · 02-13-2014, 10:46 PM

http://www.indys.com/forum/memberlis...rofile&u=25320

There.......... I just posted the lovely Lauryn's contact info. I hear she is highly recommended,

sexymaid_69 · 02-14-2014, 12:00 AM

Some ladies prefer to maintain a level of control over who does or does not have their numbers and do not appreciate having their phone numbers posted in reviews or bcd comments.

We do however appreciate the gentlemen who respect this.

AmishGangster · 02-14-2014, 07:06 AM

Mickey, you sure have had a lot of trouble in less than 90 days of membership here...