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Old 01-15-2012, 08:17 AM   #16
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NCNS are inconsiderate they have no appreciation for your time and efforts. They show they don't care about you are their business, most NCNS because they doublebook or float on the assumption that there will always be more guys, unfortunately some are right.
I think it catches up with them!

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Oh trust me! LOL
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:35 AM   #17
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Charles, any chance she read your sig line? We need to color up your sig line Charles! How about.... Hey if you like to FUCK, I'm your guy! I got a better one... I use to be a rock star, now I just want someone to play with my balls! I saved the best for last..... I really appreciate ladies that fuck guys like me! LOL

Come on Charles.... you’re a stud, you need to advertise!
First of all, I'm not a stud. I'm just a really ugly, shy, and tongue-tied guy who has a braver appearance on the board than in person.

Second, the sig line is the direct result of a series of interactions over several months with one lady that eventually wasted a lot of my time.

Third, I think the more accurate reason is my age. Even "more mature" providers don't see themselves fucking guys the age of their grandfathers.
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:44 AM   #18
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Many gentlemen, in a spirit of big-heartedness and forgiveness, seem to be able to redeem a NCNS. I usually can't.

How does it make me feel? Usually sad for the lady that she doesn't understand how seriously these small TCB things affect her business.
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I have a policy of not calling any lady who has a history of any NCNS. It is a deal-killer for me. This is why I really wish ECCIE would put an NCNS forum in every locality so it would be easy to find the NCNS histories, and then place an NCNS tap on the provider's profile just as there is a Review tab. Searching through Coed and the Locker Room is iffy at best.

The system for pigeon-holing the ladies who frequently engage in NCNS needs to be honed. Right now, it is a catch-as-catch-can kind of system.
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Old 01-15-2012, 08:54 AM   #19
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First of all, I'm not a stud. I'm just a really ugly, shy, and tongue-tied guy who has a braver appearance on the board than in person.

Second, the sig line is the direct result of a series of interactions over several months with one lady that eventually wasted a lot of my time.

Third, I think the more accurate reason is my age. Even "more mature" providers don't see themselves fucking guys the age of their grandfathers.
Charles, NSNC is not because of who you are, it’s because of who the provider is! That being said, you need to stop beating yourself up. So let’s address your concerns! You think you’re ugly? You’re in good company! But remember this, guys like what they see, ladies like what they hear. Being funny and a gentleman can make you rise head and shoulders above the rest! You’re Shy? Screw that, let little Charles take over. I bet he's not shy! Tongue tied? Less is more. Always has been. When you meet a lady start telling her everything you like about her. I've never met a lady who dislikes complements! The age thing.... fuck that. Start telling the ladies your 94. I bet your going hear how good you look for your age! See it’s all in how you look at it! Now it’s time to change up that sig line... Charles "Senior Man Whore!" It could change everything! LOL
Welcome to the world of Still Looking!
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I only time I have cancelled on a lady was probably eight years ago. She was on the p, I contacted her, passed her screening. I was traveling extensively so I was doing a lot of advanced bookings. The first two appointments I had to cancel due to work requirements since I would not be within 1500 miles of her incall, both with a couple of days notice.

The third time I cancelled was the day before the appointment, I came down with the flu and did not thinck she needed to be around my cooties. Constant travel drains the traveler, I was feeling weak for a couple of days but that was not that unusual considering my schedule. But when I woke up with a fever I knew the appointment was not going to happen. I never did see her, I just felt after three attempts and three failures it was just not meant to be.
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Old 01-15-2012, 09:16 AM   #21
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I only time I have cancelled on a lady was probably eight years ago. She was on the p, I contacted her, passed her screening. I was traveling extensively so I was doing a lot of advanced bookings. The first two appointments I had to cancel due to work requirements since I would not be within 1500 miles of her incall, both with a couple of days notice.

The third time I cancelled was the day before the appointment, I came down with the flu and did not thinck she needed to be around my cooties. Constant travel drains the traveler, I was feeling weak for a couple of days but that was not that unusual considering my schedule. But when I woke up with a fever I knew the appointment was not going to happen. I never did see her, I just felt after three attempts and three failures it was just not meant to be.
There are countless unforeseen circumstances that could prompt a no show. Very few are legitimate when coupled with the no call. 99% of it is bull shit! We all know that. It’s truly entertaining listening to some of the stories. The one who wanted to reschedule because she just found out she had an STD..... I just loved that one! LOL
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:02 PM   #22
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You send a PM. You send an email. You send a Text. You forward references. You wait patiently with gift in hand. No Show No Call?

You receive references. You complete screening. You talk on the phone. You block out time. You’re dressed and everything is ready. No Show No Call?

How does this make you feel? Share your experiences!

It's simple.

NST

Never See Them
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Old 01-15-2012, 12:15 PM   #23
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It’s truly entertaining listening to some of the stories. The one who wanted to reschedule because she just found out she had an STD..... I just loved that one! LOL
If you would have driven her to Walgreens she probably would have rocked your world.
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Old 01-15-2012, 01:52 PM   #24
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It's simple.

NST

Never See Them
That's pretty much your only option.

But that doesn't seem to get the point across to the provider. If you just never see them, they don't know that you don't see them BECAUSE of the NCNS.

The point needs to be made somehow: You lost out on my money because of your shitty TCB. Your shitty TCB cost you $$$$$$$ (or whatever).
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i have been nc/ns about 6 times since mid december, it really shows you dont care about your clients time, or at least if something came up call and let the client know you cant make it.
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:03 PM   #26
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i have been nc/ns about 6 times since mid december, it really shows you dont care about your clients time, or at least if something came up call and let the client know you cant make it.
Maybe that's just SOP for Iowa????
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Old 01-15-2012, 03:28 PM   #27
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Maybe that's just SOP for Iowa????
I think you are correct, I have been nc/ns so many times since I moved to Iowa its horriable
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Try the Omaha market . . . you are only a hour away.
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NCNS are inconsiderate they have no appreciation for your time and efforts. They show they don't care about you are their business, most NCNS because they doublebook or float on the assumption that there will always be more guys, unfortunately some are right.

To me, this is a business like ANY OTHER BUSINESS. And you know some businesses, like doctors, will charge you if you don't give 24 hours notice. I wish I could do that LOL. Fortunately, the vast majority of men are timely and I have had cancellations, but they were never last minute cancellations. Likewise, if I have to reschedule on the very rare moment that something DID come up, I offer an extra half hour for free to the client for the inconvenience of having to cancel in such a quick way.
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Old 01-15-2012, 05:07 PM   #30
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To me, this is a business like ANY OTHER BUSINESS. And you know some businesses, like doctors, will charge you if you don't give 24 hours notice. I wish I could do that LOL. Fortunately, the vast majority of men are timely and I have had cancellations, but they were never last minute cancellations. Likewise, if I have to reschedule on the very rare moment that something DID come up, I offer an extra half hour for free to the client for the inconvenience of having to cancel in such a quick way.
Wasn't Pay Pal set up because folks didn't trust each other on internet transactions. If I remember (and I'm real rusty on this) the buyer places the money into Pay Pal who confirms the deposit to the seller. Once the buyer has the merchandise, Pay Pal pays the seller.

I'd hate to see this in the hobby, but it seems like an enterprising lady could set up such a system. Make it clear (like hotels do) if you don't cancel by such and such time, the penalty will be 50% of the donation (hotels charge one night's lodging).

Now, I know the main objection to this system is that Pay Pal will not get involved in any way knowingly with the hobby. But that would prevent some other enterprising entrepreneur from doing so with off shore servers and the like. To me, it seems a natural for P411. They'd, of course, get an "escrow" fee. As a bonus, some of the ladies who do not now belong to P411, or primarily list themselves through other sites might be drawn to P411 as a listing site. The result: more money for P411.

However, I think these things occur or are suggested to Gina on a regular basis, and she declines to do them. I guess she figures if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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