Just moved to the Burgh from Texas...hello to the board!

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Woo!

Not to assume all are like this, but what is the story with Pittsburgh providers acting so stuck up?

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Lived here for 2 weeks now, and every attempt is met with attitude.

You are a quick study. It is worse at TOS. As mentioned, your best option is SA or visiting girls. Less attitude, less costly, better experience

[sexymaid_69]

Originally Posted by bambino

I’ve posted in KC Metro the last few days. It’s no different than here. They even have their own GabZini.

Do tell.
I'm sure every area has a lady that sticks out for one reason or another.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

Do tell.
I'm sure every area has a lady that sticks out for one reason or another.

I’m not just talking about the ladies but the guys too. Jinny, I met you years ago, not BCD but socially many times. And with other mongers like Stig. I’ve never witnessed anyone, including me, that didn’t treat you with respect or kindness. The bottomline is, most of the mongers here are far different from the sycophants on Indy’s. They don’t have interest in Indy’s girls. And you of them. You can continue to insult them. I don’t think they care.

[sexymaid_69]

Originally Posted by bambino

I’ve never witnessed anyone, including me, that didn’t treat you with respect or kindness.

You've never read my PMs. Nor do you read well between the lines here.

Originally Posted by bambino

you of them.

I don't understand this comment atall'.

Originally Posted by bambino

You can continue to insult them.

I'm not"insulting" anyone. You have to admit that most of the comments made by the"regular posters" here are not flattering to the ladies in the area.
Telling a new gentleman he'd be better off looking elsewhere because there is no talent?

Lots of hoops but not many hot providers.

We don't home grow hos very well

Yeah, those are real positive notes that make the ladies feel sooo welcome.

Originally Posted by bambino

I don’t think they care.

And yet you think I do? I would have thought by now you would know different, I'm disappointed.

I have plenty of friends who appreciate my brand of reality, and my sass.

[Lane Meyer]

Join SA plenty of hot willing young ladies. Escort sites in Pittsburgh are run by a mafia of large middle aged moo cows ego make TOS their base of operations.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

You've never read my PMs. Nor do you read well between the lines here.

I don't understand this comment atall'.



I'm not"insulting" anyone. You have to admit that most of the comments made by the"regular posters" here are not flattering to the ladies in the area.
Telling a new gentleman he'd be better off looking elsewhere because there is no talent?

Lots of hoops but not many hot providers.

We don't home grow hos very well

Yeah, those are real positive notes that make the ladies feel sooo welcome.



And yet you think I do? I would have thought by now you would know different, I'm disappointed.

I have plenty of friends who appreciate my brand of reality, and my sass.

I respond to all of your PMs. And I understand your sass. I’ve been known to have a little “sass” myself.

[Woo!]

Thanks for all the insight from everyone. I'm finding out I may as well be a rookie to this game again with how things work up here. I'm not mad.

Maybe I'll just become a local food connoisseur as a hobby. Not sure I would have the patience or want to to jump through all these hoops after, comparitvely, the much easier hobbying in TX.

Sexymaid, your attitude, as perceived through the thread, reminds a bit of TX. Thanks for your viewpoints.

Happy hobbying everyone. Good luck.

[Big Stig]

Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

Telling a new gentleman he'd be better off looking elsewhere because there is no talent?

Lots of hoops but not many hot providers.

We don't home grow hos very well

Yeah, those are real positive notes that make the ladies feel sooo welcome.

Would it be better to lie and tell him the provider scene here is fabulous? Because, in all honesty, it's not fabulous or even close to anything that resembles fabulous.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Big Stig

Would it be better to lie and tell him the provider scene here is fabulous? Because, in all honesty, it's not fabulous or even close to anything that resembles fabulous.

My point to Jinny was you can’t pin the attitude of local providers on ECCIE mongers. 99% of the local hookers aren’t members here. They’re on Indy’s where the guys are kept in check and are basically sycophants. There’s no reason for a bad attitude. No better example was GabZini’s threAD on Indy’s. In Tatts fashion she posted a thread “Did you miss me”. 3 pages of guys gushing over her. That’s as shocking as it was predictable. I don’t see wholesale Ho bashing in this forum. I see guys who aren’t afraid to share their experiences in an honest fashion. Jinny’s Been here a longtime, she has dropped her Indy’s account. Her posts are always welcomed and respected. Except for a few nimrods who she handles with ease.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Woo!

Thanks for all the insight from everyone. I'm finding out I may as well be a rookie to this game again with how things work up here. I'm not mad.

Maybe I'll just become a local food connoisseur as a hobby. Not sure I would have the patience or want to to jump through all these hoops after, comparitvely, the much easier hobbying in TX.

Sexymaid, your attitude, as perceived through the thread, reminds a bit of TX. Thanks for your viewpoints.

Happy hobbying everyone. Good luck.

Here’s a pretty comprehensive list of the local restaurants. You’ll find the dining here more enjoyable and less frustrating than trying to get laid.


https://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=2388332

[sexymaid_69]

It could also be that the younger hotties are all too busy to participate in the forums anywhere.

That's been one of my longtime observations anyway.

You guys don't seem to realize how many Pittsburgh ladies do read these forums though.
I'm just saying that the general tone of the conversations here discourage participation.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by sexymaid_69

It could also be that the younger hotties are all too busy to participate in the forums anywhere.

That's been one of my longtime observations anyway.

You guys don't seem to realize how many Pittsburgh ladies do read these forums though.
I'm just saying that the general tone of the conversations here discourage participation.

Jinny

I don't need young hotties to participate in the forums. The forum participation, union "you will get in line or else" mentality, the bullshit reviews, bashing of anyone who does a bad review or criticizes a provider and the cuckholded guys at TOS have helped ruin the hobby in Pittsburgh.

I believe most guys here simply want a no hassle, reasonably priced experience that is easy to book with a provider who doesn't cop an attitude. And guys come here to talk about their experiences and exchange info. they don't need to converse with providers in the forums. That has contributed to TOS being as bad as it is.

You are unique in that you can join a conversation here, add to it, and not turn it into an ad for you. Most providers are not like you (and that is a compliment to you).

I would say 95% of my hobby money over the last 5 years has been spent on non-pro's or providers not on TOS or from out of town. Why.

1. The selection on TOS is not that good locally. I could could count on one hand how many peak my interest.

2. Attitude. Here is a perfect example. I recently PM a provider on TOS who does not have pics posted. Ask her donation amounts and for a pic. She tells me her rates - a bit higher than I like but I still had some interest. She did not send a pic. I ask her again for a pic. She says she does not send them until I book. WTF??? How is this good for business?

3. Rates - too many now have GPS. Since when did a hhr rate become almost the same as an hr used to be on TOS? Used to be 100 to 120 was standard hhr - now most are 160 to 200. I have been able to spend 100 to 150 on non-pro SBs and spend more than an hour with them. Saw one former stripper who was quite hot and quite frankly, better than anyone else I ever saw. We met once a week for 100 to 120 a week for over a year. So that was over $7,000 that did not go to TOS providers that used to.

The provider scene is bad in Pittsburgh, there is no sugar coating it. People here have simply told the truth. A reasonably good provider who is drama free, no attitude with fair rates would clean up. That is why when one visitor on TOS comes to town, UTRKate, she always seems to be booked solid even if she is not the young spinner some guys want. I have seen her twice myself. If others had her attitude and approach to business, this town would be a lot better off. I have also heard good things about a visiting Erie provider but our schedules have not meshed yet. But those are few and far between these days at TOS

[Hematoma]

Originally Posted by bambino

My point to Jinny was you can’t pin the attitude of local providers on ECCIE mongers. 99% of the local hookers aren’t members here. They’re on Indy’s where the guys are kept in check and are basically sycophants. There’s no reason for a bad attitude. No better example was GabZini’s threAD on Indy’s. In Tatts fashion she posted a thread “Did you miss me”. 3 pages of guys gushing over her. That’s as shocking as it was predictable. I don’t see wholesale Ho bashing in this forum. I see guys who aren’t afraid to share their experiences in an honest fashion. Jinny’s Been here a longtime, she has dropped her Indy’s account. Her posts are always welcomed and respected. Except for a few nimrods who she handles with ease.

Bam, well said.

My opinion on the matter (r/t Jinny's and others remarks)...In order to improve the quality, service and attitude of this industry guys need to be honest about their experiences. At ECCIE, they can do that. In fact, most nationwide forums reflect honesty in their posts and that creates a better product for all. TOS is different in that true opinions are rarely verbalized and undeserving providers are put on a pedestal for fear of banishment or lack of receiving a vouch. The hobbyist ends up biting his tongue. The TOS model has "warped" the hobbying mindset in Pittsburgh. It's unfortunate. I'm reading the "Gabby worship" threads on TOS and I'm thinking, "Are you fucking kidding me?". There's a girl who I wouldn't bang on my drunkest night back in my college days. Desperate times I suppose....or simply delusional.

As for the attitude of this board, it's refreshing. I've gathered more good hofo here than I ever did on TOS. Providers cringe and complain at the slightest accusation that their service wasn't "perfect" or that they gained bit of weight. Sorry, but deal with it. I take shit and criticism everyday from customers at my job. I just smile and try to learn from it. It's called being a professional. We are the consumers and if I'm spending 300 for an hour with a girl she had better look like her pics and perform closely as advertised. If she doesn't then I will let mongers know here so that they don't waste their money. Consumers look out for one another and that's no different here. If you can't take the criticism well then find another profession. The provider attitude around here is to immediately transfer blame to the hobbyist because the industry sucks instead of taking blame for oneself and ones peers.

Yes, this forum isn't for everyone. However, I do think there will be a gradual shift from TOS to here. On TOS you can't even post reviews anymore. Granted, they are fluff, but free advertising nonetheless. Guys want to read reviews and get hofo in this hobby. You simply can't get that over there anymore.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by Hematoma

Bam, well said.

My opinion on the matter (r/t Jinny's and others remarks)...In order to improve the quality, service and attitude of this industry guys need to be honest about their experiences. At ECCIE, they can do that. In fact, most nationwide forums reflect honesty in their posts and that creates a better product for all. TOS is different in that true opinions are rarely verbalized and undeserving providers are put on a pedestal for fear of banishment or lack of receiving a vouch. The hobbyist ends up biting his tongue. The TOS model has "warped" the hobbying mindset in Pittsburgh. It's unfortunate. I'm reading the "Gabby worship" threads on TOS and I'm thinking, "Are you fucking kidding me?". There's a girl who I wouldn't bang on my drunkest night back in my college days. Desperate times I suppose....or simply delusional.

As for the attitude of this board, it's refreshing. I've gathered more good hofo here than I ever did on TOS. Providers cringe and complain at the slightest accusation that their service wasn't "perfect" or that they gained bit of weight. Sorry, but deal with it. I take shit and criticism everyday from customers at my job. I just smile and try to learn from it. It's called being a professional. We are the consumers and if I'm spending 300 for an hour with a girl she had better look like her pics and perform closely as advertised. If she doesn't then I will let mongers know here so that they don't waste their money. Consumers look out for one another and that's no different here. If you can't take the criticism well then find another profession. The provider attitude around here is to immediately transfer blame to the hobbyist because the industry sucks instead of taking blame for oneself and ones peers.

Yes, this forum isn't for everyone. However, I do think there will be a gradual shift from TOS to here. On TOS you can't even post reviews anymore. Granted, they are fluff, but free advertising nonetheless. Guys want to read reviews and get hofo in this hobby. You simply can't get that over there anymore.

I think you can post reviews on Indy’s now. They had to keep up.

[Lane Meyer]

Originally Posted by Hematoma

"Are you fucking kidding me?". There's a girl who I wouldn't bang on my drunkest night back in my college days. Desperate times I suppose....or simply delusional.

Well said, most of what’s there I would throw up if I saw them naked not get excited.