Time for Conservatives to beat the Crazy Ass Libs at their own game of cheating and ballot harvesting

[tommy156]

There is definitely NOT enough voter fraud to come close to even start swaying any election results. In fact, the only voter fraud found in PA in 2020 was committed by Republicans. Still, nowhere hear the amount needed to sway anything. Republicans are just sore loser crybabies - just like their cult leader.

[berryberry]

Have to laugh that in America, we have those ill-informed people that still believe there is no voter fraud.

How can someone not live in reality?

There have been numerous documented cases of voter fraud but I guess some people are either so ill-informed or so filled with hate that they can't even recognize basic facts.

I have said it before - it's sad but alas the crazy ass libs rely upon dumb ass voters as their main voter base because they are so stupid they believe anything the Dems tell them. That is what our country is up-against, an ill-informed electorate that willingly participates in the lefts ballot harvesting and voter fraud schemes

Thankfully I have seen many national Conservatives now recognize that they have to beat the crazy ass cheating libs at their own game and play just as dirty as they do

[eyecu2]

Originally Posted by tommy156

There is definitely NOT enough voter fraud to come close to even start swaying any election results. In fact, the only voter fraud found in PA in 2020 was committed by Republicans. Still, nowhere hear the amount needed to sway anything. Republicans are just sore loser crybabies - just like their cult leader.

There are many cult members in this Forum. They believe anything Tuckie, and company will tell them. The easiest people to influence are the ill-informed and the un-educated. The indoctrination of the GOP works like this:

Indoctrination is reprehensible because it makes a person incapable of thinking independently. In extreme cases, indoctrinated individuals are easily manipulated by others to inflict harm on themselves and others; Jan 6, Charlottesville march, photo opportunity for Trump via gas and pepper pellets. Yeah, nice GOP ppl, who condemn violence when they see it, but then see their power leaving and say, it' wasn't what you think it was, it was a peaceful gathering of tourists, who just happen to have guns and breaking in windows and doors. (cause they were invited in by a guy named Ray) literally, you cannot make up this level of stupidity and lemming-isms.

Sounds awfully familiar when I think of how the GOP acts against ppl like Jews, Blacks, and Women; At face value, they say we support them, but if you cannot do anything for them politically, they would prefer you were just not around.

They politicized everything including a bible. But the founding fathers would slap them across the face for it; they believed in the separation of church and state- but today you have some Gophers' saying they are tired of that separation of church and state.

they like their Kool-Aid without dilution. It's funny how FOX news & other right-wing media spouts out things like blessing, or god, or anything related to church, but then immediately go to condemnation of their fellow Americans. Why- Cause they are fucking liars and hypocrites.

Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

[tommy156]

Originally Posted by eyecu2

There are many cult members in this Forum. They believe anything Tuckie, and company will tell them. The easiest people to influence are the ill-informed and the un-educated. The indoctrination of the GOP works like this:

Indoctrination is reprehensible because it makes a person incapable of thinking independently. In extreme cases, indoctrinated individuals are easily manipulated by others to inflict harm on themselves and others; Jan 6, Charlottesville march, photo opportunity for Trump via gas and pepper pellets. Yeah, nice GOP ppl, who condemn violence when they see it, but then see their power leaving and say, it' wasn't what you think it was, it was a peaceful gathering of tourists, who just happen to have guns and breaking in windows and doors. (cause they were invited in by a guy named Ray) literally, you cannot make up this level of stupidity and lemming-isms.

Sounds awfully familiar when I think of how the GOP acts against ppl like Jews, Blacks, and Women; At face value, they say we support them, but if you cannot do anything for them politically, they would prefer you were just not around.

They politicized everything including a bible. But the founding fathers would slap them across the face for it; they believed in the separation of church and state- but today you have some Gophers' saying they are tired of that separation of church and state.

they like their Kool-Aid without dilution. It's funny how FOX news & other right-wing media spouts out things like blessing, or god, or anything related to church, but then immediately go to condemnation of their fellow Americans. Why- Cause they are fucking liars and hypocrites.

Every. Single. One. Of. Them.

Yep. Every single one. Do as I say, not as I do. And their voters keep letting them get away with it. Because it's *their authoritarianism*. Freedom doesn't even enter into it.

[AmishGangster]

All you lefties really make me LOL sometimes, you aren’t nearly as funny as Chizzys one liners but you all sure are entertaining as fuck sometimes.

[1pittsburgh]

rege69's post in this thread has been liked by 11 users. That's the most I've seen. Seems like he expressed a truly bipartisan sentiment. You should take note of it, berry. You keep talking about massive voter fraud, but are never able to prove anything but an isolated incident here and there, which happens on both sides of the aisle.


There was one case that was significant enough to cause republican and democrat election officials to vote unanimously to re run the election, but it wasn't democrats who were caught cheating:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47323556

Care to share your opinion on this one, berry?

[rmg_35]

Love how the extreme right-wing nut jobs keep whining and crying about massive voter fraud. It comes from weak minded, misinformed, easily influenced, brain-dead morons that keep sucking up the radical right-wing narrative. They're bitter and angry at the world and the radical-right feeds into their fears and angers. But that what happens to brain-dead misinformed people.

[AmishGangster]

Originally Posted by rmg_35

Love how the extreme right-wing nut jobs keep whining and crying about massive voter fraud. It comes from weak minded, misinformed, easily influenced, brain-dead morons that keep sucking up the radical right-wing narrative. They're bitter and angry at the world and the radical-right feeds into their fears and angers. But that what happens to brain-dead misinformed people.

I love when the left wing idiots want to expand the Supreme Court because they are outnumbered.

[Jacuzzme]

People who believe such things as men can’t have babies, or countries should have borders, are now labeled “right wing radicals” when just a few years ago they were just considered sane. It’s one seriously crazy train we’re riding on lately.

[Jacuzzme]

Can you imagine how many people saw those lines and said F this, I gotta get to work or home. That’s how I vote, in the morning before or the afternoon after work. Either way, I don’t have hours to stand in line because, ya know, I have a life. These are red voters, by a lot. Republicans encouraged their voters to go out on Election Day, rather than mail their ballot or throw it in a box, and magically voting at the polls becomes a complete clusterfuck in overwhelmingly Republican districts.

It’s incredible how bad Arizona fucked up. Same goes for Alaska, they STILL don’t know who won. The push is going to be for online voting and the system will have even less credibility than it has now.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Can you imagine how many people saw those lines and said F this, I gotta get to work or home. That’s how I vote, in the morning before or the afternoon after work. Either way, I don’t have hours to stand in line because, ya know, I have a life. These are red voters, by a lot. Republicans encouraged their voters to go out on Election Day, rather than mail their ballot or throw it in a box, and magically voting at the polls becomes a complete clusterfuck in overwhelmingly Republican districts.

It’s incredible how bad Arizona fucked up. Same goes for Alaska, they STILL don’t know who won. The push is going to be for online voting and the system will have even less credibility than it has now.

Yep - I saw one analysis by a well respected voting / polling expert that said all they needed to steal the election was less than 40 minutes of chaos. Based on all the data, enough people would not stand in line and leave in those 40 minutes that the crazy ass libtard cat lady could steal it. Well the tabulators weren't working for HOURS at nearly half the polling locations in Maricopa County resulting in lines of over 2 hours. Katie Hobbs got what she wanted and needed by making sure the machines she oversaw did not work.

[berryberry]

Thankfully more conservatives have recognized the GOP has to cheat and harvest ballots just like the corrupt crazy ass libs do

A New Age of American Politics
It’s time to hit ballot harvesting hard or die trying.

After sifting through the rubble from election night, and having done some soul searching on my basic knowledge of politics, I’ve come to a few conclusions: American politics has entered a new age. All that has gone before—polls, historical trends, message, issues, candidate quality, traditional get-out-the-vote efforts, candidate debates, voter persuasion—means almost nothing and is extremely insignificant.

The thing—the only thing—that truly matters now is a “ballots out, ballots in” machine.

With that perfected, you could elect a random name in a phone book, or a dead man, or a vegetable. Or both a dead man and a vegetable, as Pennsylvania recently demonstrated.

This epiphany is at once startling and obvious, particularly since we saw a prelude to this moment in the 2020 election cycle. So how was it missed by so many of us until after the midterms? Recent success leading to overconfidence is the answer. The Virginia results, in a blue state that went for Biden by 10 points in 2020, blunted my skepticism and made me over confident. Republicans won everything in Virginia in 2021: governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and the House of Delegates.

Coming out of Virginia, the conclusions—the wrong conclusions—were that we could beat whatever Democrats did in 2020 with a great focus on mid- to low-propensity voters, drive them to the polls, and overcome the rigging and manipulation. Not only did the Virginia success lead to the wrong conclusions for 2022, I’m convinced that Virginia, and even New Jersey for that matter, rang the Left’s alarm bells in a manner sufficient enough to stir them to amp up their efforts. They realized after 2021 it was time to dial in the 2020 mail-in, ballot-harvesting machine and so they did; and in all the right places.

That’s what the 2022 elections were all about. I don’t want to hear anyone crying, “Well maybe it was the abortion issue.” Nope. “Maybe it was candidate quality.” Nope (please see my previous comments on a dead man and a vegetable). “Do people really want lawlessness and inflation?” Nope. “Maybe it was extreme America First candidates turning off moderate Republican and Independent voters.” Wrong again.

It had everything to do with numbers, but not polling numbers or inflation numbers. It was about who got the most ballots sent out and who collected the most. That’s it. That’s the 2022 midterms in a nutshell.

Crass? Crude, impersonal, rife with potential fraud and corruption? 100 percent. And, in many states, perfectly legal. If conservatives and Republicans want to win again, we had better adopt the only-ballots-matter approach at least in the short term or die. I have zero ethical problems with it, none whatsoever. This is now the modern-day political battlefield in America, the rules of the game. One can either howl at the moon about it or beat the Left at it.

So I’m going to figure out how to beat the Left at its own game in 2023 and 2024. It’s either that or we find ourselves on trains to reeducation camps in the near future. While that might sound like hyperbole, is it really when you can envision America as a one-party state? We barely squeaked out the House of Representatives in a highly advantageous midterm. Unless we figure out our ballot-out, ballot-in machine, I don’t see us winning the White House or much of anything else in 2024. And if that happens, expect the Left to come very hard for many of us.

The good news is we already have something of a model in Florida, sans the ballot harvesting and ballot drop boxes. Ask yourself how Republicans kept on winning for decades in a state that had a Democratic voter registration advantage until very recently. The answer is that Florida Republicans perfected the art of early voting, mail-in voting, and absentee ballot chasing before Election Day. While Republicans would never win the early voting and mail-in fight, they largely mitigated the damage and then crushed Democrats on Election Day. It’s what Brian Kemp did in Georgia this year, also, in beating Stacey Abrams.

So it’s time to hit this breach hard, folks. Time to get churches and gun shows to ballot harvest wherever it is legal. Time to send harvesters into rest homes where it is legal. Time to get Republican county clerks to send out mass absentee ballots, whether requested or not and then track them all. Time to create a dialed-in absentee ballot chase program where we are sending people door-to-door to collect them. We can talk about reforms after we gain political power, but we’d better invest significant sums into this now or the GOP will lose in 2024. We have seen our future. Embrace it. It can either be the republic’s death or its success.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/11/21/a...ican-politics/

[AmishGangster]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

Can you imagine how many people saw those lines and said F this, I gotta get to work or home. That’s how I vote, in the morning before or the afternoon after work. Either way, I don’t have hours to stand in line because, ya know, I have a life. These are red voters, by a lot. Republicans encouraged their voters to go out on Election Day, rather than mail their ballot or throw it in a box, and magically voting at the polls becomes a complete clusterfuck in overwhelmingly Republican districts.

It’s incredible how bad Arizona fucked up. Same goes for Alaska, they STILL don’t know who won. The push is going to be for online voting and the system will have even less credibility than it has now.

I mail in vote now since Covid, I live in a very red area so I don’t have any worries about my vote being counted properly.

Its chilling to think we could get a voting system with even less credibility than the one we currently use.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by AmishGangster

I mail in vote now since Covid, I live in a very red area so I don’t have any worries about my vote being counted properly.

Its chilling to think we could get a voting system with even less credibility than the one we currently use.

When you don’t have a border, you don’t have a country.

When you don’t have fair elections, you don’t have a nation.

[Jacuzzme]

Originally Posted by berryberry

Thankfully more conservatives have recognized the GOP has to cheat and harvest ballots just like the corrupt crazy ass libs do

A New Age of American Politics
It’s time to hit ballot harvesting hard or die trying.

After sifting through the rubble from election night, and having done some soul searching on my basic knowledge of politics, I’ve come to a few conclusions: American politics has entered a new age. All that has gone before—polls, historical trends, message, issues, candidate quality, traditional get-out-the-vote efforts, candidate debates, voter persuasion—means almost nothing and is extremely insignificant.

The thing—the only thing—that truly matters now is a “ballots out, ballots in” machine.

With that perfected, you could elect a random name in a phone book, or a dead man, or a vegetable. Or both a dead man and a vegetable, as Pennsylvania recently demonstrated.

This epiphany is at once startling and obvious, particularly since we saw a prelude to this moment in the 2020 election cycle. So how was it missed by so many of us until after the midterms? Recent success leading to overconfidence is the answer. The Virginia results, in a blue state that went for Biden by 10 points in 2020, blunted my skepticism and made me over confident. Republicans won everything in Virginia in 2021: governor, lieutenant governor, attorney general, and the House of Delegates.

Coming out of Virginia, the conclusions—the wrong conclusions—were that we could beat whatever Democrats did in 2020 with a great focus on mid- to low-propensity voters, drive them to the polls, and overcome the rigging and manipulation. Not only did the Virginia success lead to the wrong conclusions for 2022, I’m convinced that Virginia, and even New Jersey for that matter, rang the Left’s alarm bells in a manner sufficient enough to stir them to amp up their efforts. They realized after 2021 it was time to dial in the 2020 mail-in, ballot-harvesting machine and so they did; and in all the right places.

That’s what the 2022 elections were all about. I don’t want to hear anyone crying, “Well maybe it was the abortion issue.” Nope. “Maybe it was candidate quality.” Nope (please see my previous comments on a dead man and a vegetable). “Do people really want lawlessness and inflation?” Nope. “Maybe it was extreme America First candidates turning off moderate Republican and Independent voters.” Wrong again.

It had everything to do with numbers, but not polling numbers or inflation numbers. It was about who got the most ballots sent out and who collected the most. That’s it. That’s the 2022 midterms in a nutshell.

Crass? Crude, impersonal, rife with potential fraud and corruption? 100 percent. And, in many states, perfectly legal. If conservatives and Republicans want to win again, we had better adopt the only-ballots-matter approach at least in the short term or die. I have zero ethical problems with it, none whatsoever. This is now the modern-day political battlefield in America, the rules of the game. One can either howl at the moon about it or beat the Left at it.

So I’m going to figure out how to beat the Left at its own game in 2023 and 2024. It’s either that or we find ourselves on trains to reeducation camps in the near future. While that might sound like hyperbole, is it really when you can envision America as a one-party state? We barely squeaked out the House of Representatives in a highly advantageous midterm. Unless we figure out our ballot-out, ballot-in machine, I don’t see us winning the White House or much of anything else in 2024. And if that happens, expect the Left to come very hard for many of us.

The good news is we already have something of a model in Florida, sans the ballot harvesting and ballot drop boxes. Ask yourself how Republicans kept on winning for decades in a state that had a Democratic voter registration advantage until very recently. The answer is that Florida Republicans perfected the art of early voting, mail-in voting, and absentee ballot chasing before Election Day. While Republicans would never win the early voting and mail-in fight, they largely mitigated the damage and then crushed Democrats on Election Day. It’s what Brian Kemp did in Georgia this year, also, in beating Stacey Abrams.

So it’s time to hit this breach hard, folks. Time to get churches and gun shows to ballot harvest wherever it is legal. Time to send harvesters into rest homes where it is legal. Time to get Republican county clerks to send out mass absentee ballots, whether requested or not and then track them all. Time to create a dialed-in absentee ballot chase program where we are sending people door-to-door to collect them. We can talk about reforms after we gain political power, but we’d better invest significant sums into this now or the GOP will lose in 2024. We have seen our future. Embrace it. It can either be the republic’s death or its success.

https://amgreatness.com/2022/11/21/a...ican-politics/

This is exactly what I meant. I like the gun show idea, although you can bet 99% will still be skeptical and go to the polls on election day.