P411

[GinaXXX]

Anyone who is (justifiably) concerned about cyber security, should be aware that they need not give P411 any significant real life information if they have two solid P411 provider references. If the sensitive information isn't on our servers, and never has been on our servers, there's much less to be concerned about.

Also, a free six month trial membership is available to new applicants with two references. No credit card needed, no strings attached!


Click HERE For Six Month Free Trial With Two References Application

For those who have no references and need to be verified via employment, we only want to verify they are legitimate hobbyists. We aren't interested in knowing "who" they are in their real lives, and can therefore delete and destroy any real life information that may have been collected during the screening process once the verification is complete.

Always,
Gina

[2short@desky]

P411 has helped a lot. I was fortunate enough and relatively easy to verify with one very good provider, and this lady highly suggested I do it and she would vouch as my first OK. At that time I didn't even know 411 existed, I was that naive. She had given me the entire history of ASPD and 411 and stressed how important it was to the provider to be verifiable on 411. I followed through on her suggestion, adding OKs as I went. These ladies talk and know of each other, and 411 streamlines the entire process for them. If you're the Lewis & Clark type, it may not be of benefit for you, BP, this site, and others may work well, albeit with higher risk I think. For me, an older gent who simply wants NSA GFE hot milfs with a shitload of experience for an hour, it's been very beneficial.

[mag7315]

Simple:

No provider has to contact other providers. Hobbyist doesn't have to give provider RW information whatsoever. P411 often makes it much easier to contact and schedule providers. Finding a provider to see a newbie was plenty easy on P411. OKs are kept on p411, so checking references doesn't have to happen every time you see a provider.

I can say in hindsight, it was a worthwhile purchase.

[rexdutchman]

P411 is in my opinion the only way to go , I only see P411 providers.......

[BossyWillson]

Originally Posted by EastTexasGrown

OP ... IMO, getting p411 as a newbie really has NO ADVANTAGE. However, I have found it much easier to make future dates after I had 5+ OKs on p411 from Playmates who had seen me. I now have 30+ OKs. I cannot remember the last time I actually gave a new Playmate any references. On p411, I have a well written out profile that tells the ladies about me, my likes, and my desires. I make sure that I do not contact a lady who can't meet those desires. For example, I am BBBJ only. So I will not contact a playmate who is CBJ. I also show in my profile that I desire my new Playmate to contact my last 4 OKs to find out more about me as well.

Now? Do they contact them? I honestly haven't a clue! But I can tell you that I haven't actually provided contact information in probably 16 months and I have only been hobbying for 21 months.

+1 ADVANTAGE. it is much easier to make dates after 3+ OKs on p411 from Playmates who had seen me.

[ptherapy]

Likely the way to go is wait for 2 references because I imagine they would count as OK's and would establish the hobbyist.

What constitutes discreet employment verification?

Is the correlation between applicant and employer stored on your systems or is it more of a check box that says yes said applicant is gainfully employed?

I am not married so the Ashley Madison effect only concerns me from a company perspective. Many companies are brand sensitive and outed on an escort site could cause problems so I need to dig a bit deeper into RW info that is stored.

[superman0909]

Originally Posted by micktoz

P411 has been the key to fairly seemless arrangements with excellent ladies all over the US. I travel a lot and have never had a problem with verification.
I don't think I've ever seen a provider that wasn't on it either.
It's a great resource for finding ladies. And for finding which boards they have reviews on,because Eccie is very regional.

To me it is the best resource in the hobby.

+1, Agreed.

[Little Stevie]

I'm coming up on a DOZEN years with Preferred 411 and while I have ventured out for some excellent UTR choices, I would absolutely not hobby without using P411 in a variety of ways to make this playground far safer and easier to navigate.

+ 1 on the "out of town" resources, too!

Even without "knowing" WHO someone really is, the networking P411 provides is an invaluable safety net.

Thanks for all the great years, Gina!!!!

[johnspice]

I have contemplated getting p411 for a long time now but I do not want to put ANY real world information anywhere hobby related. So, is the following a viable scenario?

1. I sign up using the hobby name and info i have on here for the 6 month trial.
2. I ask the providers who I have seen and who have P411 to kindly give me Oks on P411.
3. I get 2 OKs and then considered verified on P411.
4. After the Trial ends, if I chose to keep the membership I pay the fees.

Will you kindly correct or insert anything missing in the 4 steps above.


Thank you so much.

Originally Posted by GinaXXX

Anyone who is (justifiably) concerned about cyber security, should be aware that they need not give P411 any significant real life information if they have two solid P411 provider references. If the sensitive information isn't on our servers, and never has been on our servers, there's much less to be concerned about.

Also, a free six month trial membership is available to new applicants with two references. No credit card needed, no strings attached!


Click HERE For Six Month Free Trial With Two References Application

For those who have no references and need to be verified via employment, we only want to verify they are legitimate hobbyists. We aren't interested in knowing "who" they are in their real lives, and can therefore delete and destroy any real life information that may have been collected during the screening process once the verification is complete.

Always,
Gina

[Jules Jaguar]

P411 is gold especially since providers hardly ever return reference requests anymore... if they do answer it's days later

[nekisa]

Originally Posted by EastTexasGrown

OP ... IMO, getting p411 as a newbie really has NO ADVANTAGE. However, I have found it much easier to make future dates after I had 5+ OKs on p411 from Playmates who had seen me. I now have 30+ OKs. I cannot remember the last time I actually gave a new Playmate any references. On p411, I have a well written out profile that tells the ladies about me, my likes, and my desires. I make sure that I do not contact a lady who can't meet those desires. For example, I am BBBJ only. So I will not contact a playmate who is CBJ. I also show in my profile that I desire my new Playmate to contact my last 4 OKs to find out more about me as well.

Now? Do they contact them? I honestly haven't a clue! But I can tell you that I haven't actually provided contact information in probably 16 months and I have only been hobbying for 21 months.

Exactly! great advice. And if I saw your profile after that description, it tells me you are legit, most ladies wouldn't hesitate...and it cuts out all that time spent trying to get a reference.

[billw1032]

Originally Posted by johnspice

I have contemplated getting p411 for a long time now but I do not want to put ANY real world information anywhere hobby related. So, is the following a viable scenario?

1. I sign up using the hobby name and info i have on here for the 6 month trial.
2. I ask the providers who I have seen and who have P411 to kindly give me Oks on P411.
3. I get 2 OKs and then considered verified on P411.
4. After the Trial ends, if I chose to keep the membership I pay the fees.

Will you kindly correct or insert anything missing in the 4 steps above.


Thank you so much.

Unless something has changed that I don't know about, your hobby name means nothing to P411. You need to create an ID there, and the first part of that is your first name. Hopefully your real first name is John or Jim or Robert or something equally unidentifiable. Now you could lie and use a different name, but in theory at least a provider has the right to ask to see your ID to confirm that you are the person who booked the appointment through P411. You can mask all of the other RW info, but the first name and photo need to show. I have no idea how many providers actually ask for this, probably not many, but it is in the P411 rules for their protection (or at least it used to be). You can certainly use your hobby email to sign up.

[johnspice]

Thank you Bill. I Appreciate the detailed response.

Originally Posted by billw1032

Unless something has changed that I don't know about, your hobby name means nothing to P411. You need to create an ID there, and the first part of that is your first name. Hopefully your real first name is John or Jim or Robert or something equally unidentifiable. Now you could lie and use a different name, but in theory at least a provider has the right to ask to see your ID to confirm that you are the person who booked the appointment through P411. You can mask all of the other RW info, but the first name and photo need to show. I have no idea how many providers actually ask for this, probably not many, but it is in the P411 rules for their protection (or at least it used to be). You can certainly use your hobby email to sign up.

[rexdutchman]

Providers check profile for oks , and the profile you can indicate your likes etc .

[GinaXXX]

1. I sign up using the hobby name and info i have on here for the 6 month trial.
2. I ask the providers who I have seen and who have P411 to kindly give me Oks on P411.
3. I get 2 OKs and then considered verified on P411.
4. After the Trial ends, if I chose to keep the membership I pay the fees.

Yes, except....

A client ID consists of :

(1) First or middle name, as it appears on drivers license
(2) DAY of the month you were born (ie 1-31)
(3) A letter (we suggest first letter of the city you were born, but it can be any letter)
(4) LAST four digits on a form of ID you carry with you

The client id is created so that providers can confirm, upon meeting, that you are the true owner of the client id being used. However, the amount of "real life" info contained in the client id is insignificant enough that no single person could be pinpointed from it.

Also, please be aware that client profiles cannot be browsed. The only people who can view your P411 profile are providers who have your client id. You can keep an eye on who's looked at your profile, under Tracking.

Always,
Gina