The Saddest Part of the Boston Tragedy

[i'va biggen]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Your stupidity knows no bounds a pimple on the ass of Kansas.

[bojulay]

Originally Posted by bigtex

Wow, StupidOldLyingFart's stated belief that the "saddest part of the Boston tragedy" was not the senseless bombing that resulted in a terrible loss of life and limb. Instead he believes that the "saddest part" would be that a "fan favorite" of the Red Sox thought enough of the local residents to give of his time by flying in from California, in order to share with a stadium packed full of people a few words of comfort, through a song.

All I can say is, simply amazing! Unfortunately for us all, there are idiots like him among us!

Yeah, but you conveniently left out the fact that the second song
he sang was ( Forever In Bluejeans.) Have you ever heard that song?

[ElisabethWhispers]

Actually, I think that the OP has a good point. And it's worrisome (not him or his post but what he was writing about!).

When I was watching the news last week, it was almost like watching an old West movie. The posse was in town to get the bad guy and the people were waiting for a hangin'.

I "get" that this was a bad kid and needed to be found but every house being searched (I understand why) and people crying out for MORE public filming made me think of Big Brother and that book that I read decades ago ... I think it was either "Brave New World" or "1984", cannot remember which one.

We are slowly, or rather quickly, giving up our civil rights and I believe that was the main point of this topic.

Also, I found it compelling in a not so positive way, that people were clapping that the teenager was caught. Seemed rather mean spirited. (And I do know that I'll be attacked for that last sentence)

In other words, like my grandma used to say, "Two wrongs don't make a right".

IS this teenager obviously fucked up in some way? Maybe. But perhaps the parents are correct and they were set up. I doubt it. But EVERYONE is so willing to point fingers and much of the evidence hasn't been presented.

Guess what I would like to see ... is more compassion in these times. And compassion from those who don't know crap about what is going on but depend on the news to actually figure out facts.

When speaking of compassion, I mean that as being an overall mindset. It's easy to show compassion when an obvious wrong as happened. It's so difficult for others to show compassion when an unspeakable act is committed.

What caused these two brothers to do such a thing? Do I support terrorists? Of course not. But here in the states, we still have that hang 'em high mentality and that's bothersome.

Combined with the "take care of us" mentality of some, it just isn't going to work in the long run.

I already feel that my privacy is being invaded daily. This event was just one more screw in the proverbial coffin of basic freedoms that we value.

[Jackie S]

I think the big fear that the Police and other people in authority had was this teenager was just the tip of the iceburg, and there were perhaps multitudes of bombs placed all over the City by other operatives.

Afterall, look how easilly, even with all of our sophisticated security, those two were able to stroll right up to the finish line of the Marathon and place their bombs, then just walk away.

In the movie "The Godfather", Michael Corleon is heard saying that if history has taught us anything, it is you can kill anybody if you are willing.

I guess the same can be said for carrying out acts of terror. You just have to be willing.

By the way. One interesting note that has surfaced is the older brother was not shot fatally by police, but was actually run over by his younger brother in the Mercedes in his attempt to get away. I wonder if they can charge the younger brother with the muder of his older brother?

[CJ7]

having cameras on every street corner hasn't had a direct effect on my freedom in the least, nor will it ever .. without these eyes in the sky, chances are the two brothers would still be at large having compassion on other innocent bystanders ... I suppose every tom, dick, and harry running all over the country and the world with cell phones capable of taking pictures of whoever they want, whenever they want takes away freedom too, but theres no concern there because people that complain about a camera on a building own and use one of those phones

[Old Dingus]

CuteOld Guy, I really hope you will let this drop without further comment.

Elizabeth, I do not understand you at all.

Old Dingus

[acp5762]

What I find to be really sad is the vast Law Enforcement presence that day. Besides the Boston Police there was FBI and members of DHS as well. There was even noted in photos of Bomb sniffing Dogs and their handlers from DHS and agents on roof tops. Even an announcement saying their was a drill taking place and not to be concerned. Still this tragic event takes place. There is only three questions that I have now in terms of the security measures, A-They Did It, B- They Let It Happen, C- They Tried To Stop It,But Their Efforts Failed. Proving They Are Unable To Protect The Citizens Of This Country. I am convinced these are the only possibilities. There is nothing else.

[CJ7]

IMO unless theres a cop for every single person in the crowd, watching that person like a hawk watching a rat, anything can happen

[gary5912]

never mind

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by CJ7

IMO unless theres a cop for every single person in the crowd, watching that person like a hawk watching a rat, anything can happen

You don't need a Cop on every square foot of pavement to protect people. Lets face it bad things do happen. Boston P.D is one of the best in the country and they did their job and did it well. But when their is Federal Agents conducting a Training Drill specifically for any terrorist activity. I would say they are in the mode to thwart any and everything that may seem suspicious. That's why I brought up those three questions. If it's number 3, then DHS and the FBI need to go back to the drawing board.

[CJ7]

the feds suck ... I get the meaning of your constant bitch

[acp5762]

Originally Posted by CJ7

the feds suck ... I get the meaning of your constant bitch

I am not bitching. I am just bringing up a few legitimate questions.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by acp5762

I am not bitching. I am just bringing up a few legitimate questions.

how many times have you brought up this same training drill question, along with the other ligit questions ..

there is no liigit answer to any of them

[JCM800]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

And who was hurt by this? You guessed it. The working class. If you receive an hourly rate, or tips, or own a small business, guess what? You lost a day of productivity. Didn't get those hours in, or get those tips, or make those sales, because your government was PROTECTING YOU!

i'm sure some people were more than happy to have a day off work amidst all the chaos.

Originally Posted by ElisabethWhispers

IS this teenager obviously fucked up in some way? Maybe. But perhaps the parents are correct and they were set up. I doubt it. But EVERYONE is so willing to point fingers and much of the evidence hasn't been presented.

i think to shoot out with the cops, the car-jacking, the 7-11 holdup would lead the cops to believe they might be on to the right suspects.

[Old Dingus]

There should be no question that the American public can be much better protected. The question is how much is the public willing to give for the protection.

If L.E. blocked off the public areas with entry only for those who had passed airport level security, and nothing carried in, this could not have happened.

New York does much more for Time Square at New Year's Eve. The protection includes moving mailboxes, welding man holes, etc.

All of this not only has an expense in dollars, but also in time. It is another cost of freedom.

I will never understand how some can suggest this was a set-up or frame job.

Old Dingus