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05-12-2012, 10:32 PM
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That's great and all, but where are all of the jobs?
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In my little town of 50,000, there are 2 pages of help want ads
but some people will not take a lessor job that they had before
with all that unemployment in CA and they moved back to OK for jobs, that would be a little "Grapes of Wrath" in reverse
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05-14-2012, 05:35 AM
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05-14-2012, 06:18 AM
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Many business use help wanted ads as a means of advertizement.
Most people will not go to work making less than their unemployment benefits pay.
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05-14-2012, 06:28 AM
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LOL
What a plan the Dems have, keep everybody of assistance until the election nears and then kick'em off! What numb nuts would hatch something like that? Better yet what numb nuts would believe that shit!
Alright, I'm off to Cali for some well deserved R&R, you boys hold down the fort.
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you dummie, its a perfect plan...curry favor and then right before the election the MSM can trumpet the falling unemployment rate as all the ppl previously receiving unemployment get a job...
dont you know that people magically find a job when their unemployment benefits lapse? funny how that always seems to work
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05-15-2012, 01:14 PM
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Actually I have my own doctors analogy; a influx of patients occurs at a major hospital (the unemployed), it is an apparent epidemic. The head of the hospital (Obama) says to start them on an IV and make them comfortable. The head of the hospital has never studied medicine he is a management specialist. The junior intern objects (the GOP) and says that making the patients comfortable is good but a cure is needed instead. They go on to say that if you don't find the cure then they will never get better and need more hospitalization. So now you have a room full of patients feeling comfortable but the vast majority are not getting better. After a time the head of the hospital needs the room for others and tells the nurses (the states) to stop the IV drip and prepare to move the patients out. The intern (now a resident) tells the head of the hospital that you can't stop the IV suddenly without causing the predicted pain. The head of the hospital tells the resident and the nurses that is not his problem and goes golfing. As the patients object to leaving and feeling the pain voice mail for the head of the hospital says to blame the resident and the nurses.
People have been promised 99 weeks of unemployment and have come to rely on that money (dependency) for the full 99 weeks. Obama is not cutting them off without notice. The GOP didn't want to do the 99 weeks in the first place thinking the pain would be less as people searched harder for jobs. Now they have invested in that benefit and to pull it back now would cause great pain. The GOP may be put in the position of having to honor what Obama promised even though it was the wrong thing to do originally. Obama and the democrats broke their promise.
What would you say about Mitt Romney if he promised workers four months of pay when they got laid off but stiffed them in the end. I think you would be singing a different partisan tune.
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05-15-2012, 02:09 PM
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I support unemployment benefits so that you don't lose everything with a month or two gap between jobs.
99 weeks.... is insane. 1 year is insane. After the first month, you start get rid of shit and scaling back. After the 2nd month you end anything not essential and get a damn job, any job.
I ABSOLUTELY guarantee that 2 months of not working is held against anyone trying to get a job. And that a few months of being security or a waitress, etc isn't going to blacken your resume. But not being able to answer what you did for 2 months will end your job chances.
It's easier to get a job when you have a job. Someone without a job seems unwanted and unmotivated. Who wants to hire the unwanted and unmotivated? I'd hire a highschool graduate with no experience before I'd hire someone coming off of 99 weeks of unemployment.
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05-15-2012, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
you dummie, its a perfect plan...curry favor and then right before the election the MSM can trumpet the falling unemployment rate as all the ppl previously receiving unemployment get a job...
dont you know that people magically find a job when their unemployment benefits lapse? funny how that always seems to work
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Well I know that you will have to compete with a few other looney posters on here if a job opening pops up for Conspiracy Theorist!
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05-15-2012, 02:52 PM
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I know that someone of you depend on your benefits but some states are now cancelling the 99 week extensions. Guess they forgot to tell the world but they will find out next week. Of course this was passed when the democrats controlled both houses and the White House to come to an end now. More states will lose their extensions in September and once you no longer qualify, you fall off the rolls and unemployment goes down...just in time for the election. Democrats playing with your lives and enjoying your pain because it means votes to them.
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You've got to laugh out loud at the hypocrisy.
The repukes have been against every single extension of unemployment benefits in recent memory. Shit, if it was up to them, nobody would qualify for or receive those benefits. The idea that you guys give a shit about the unemployed is laughable.
By the way, most of the benefits will probably run out in June in most states. So much for your timed election conspiracy theory. As usual, your info is fucked up. A state's eligibility for the federal matching unemployment insurance funds is determined by a formula. Not by when the next election occurs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...ment-extension
Now, what will be really interesting is when the democrats try to fix this in the next several weeks in order to actually help the unemployed, what do you think the repuke reaction will be? And when the GOP'ers resist those efforts, we'll be waiting for some more teary-eyed compassionate commentary from the new model caring JD about how much he weeps about the unemployed who will no longer be receiving unemployment insurance benefits.
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05-15-2012, 03:26 PM
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Well I know that you will have to compete with a few other looney posters on here if a job opening pops up for Conspiracy Theorist!
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I don't need any help.
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05-15-2012, 03:27 PM
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You've got to laugh out loud at the hypocrisy.
The repukes have been against every single extension of unemployment benefits in recent memory. Shit, if it was up to them, nobody would qualify for or receive those benefits. The idea that you guys give a shit about the unemployed is laughable.
By the way, most of the benefits will probably run out in June in most states. So much for your timed election conspiracy theory. As usual, your info is fucked up. A state's eligibility for the federal matching unemployment insurance funds is determined by a formula. Not by when the next election occurs.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...ment-extension
Now, what will be really interesting is when the democrats try to fix this in the next several weeks in order to actually help the unemployed, what do you think the repuke reaction will be? And when the GOP'ers resist those efforts, we'll be waiting for some more teary-eyed compassionate commentary from the new model caring JD about how much he weeps about the unemployed who will no longer be receiving unemployment insurance benefits.
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So, Timmy. What will Obama want to do for the unemployed, and how will the repukes [sic] thwart his intentions?
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05-15-2012, 04:42 PM
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So, Timmy. What will Obama want to do for the unemployed, and how will the repukes [sic] thwart his intentions?
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Try to extend the benefits? Coggy? And the repukes will tie any agreement from them to such an arrangement to some sort of ridiculously unreasonable budget request. Like getting rid of some funding for Meals-on-Wheels (oh, wait, already did that) or lowering the tax rate on anybody that earns over a million dollars a year (oh...wait).....and so on.
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05-15-2012, 04:46 PM
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I support unemployment benefits so that you don't lose everything with a month or two gap between jobs.
99 weeks.... is insane. 1 year is insane. After the first month, you start get rid of shit and scaling back. After the 2nd month you end anything not essential and get a damn job, any job.
I ABSOLUTELY guarantee that 2 months of not working is held against anyone trying to get a job. And that a few months of being security or a waitress, etc isn't going to blacken your resume. But not being able to answer what you did for 2 months will end your job chances.
It's easier to get a job when you have a job. Someone without a job seems unwanted and unmotivated. Who wants to hire the unwanted and unmotivated? I'd hire a highschool graduate with no experience before I'd hire someone coming off of 99 weeks of unemployment.
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well said
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05-15-2012, 05:06 PM
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Try to extend the benefits? Coggy? And the repukes will tie any agreement from them to such an arrangement to some sort of ridiculously unreasonable budget request. Like getting rid of some funding for Meals-on-Wheels (oh, wait, already did that) or lowering the tax rate on anybody that earns over a million dollars a year (oh...wait).....and so on.
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So you support extending benefits beyond 99 months. Ok. How many months of unemployment is too many? Why not just have lifetime unemployment benefits? I mean, why bother to get a job at all?
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05-15-2012, 05:08 PM
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So you support extending benefits beyond 99 months. Ok. How many months of unemployment is too many? Why not just have lifetime unemployment benefits? I mean, why bother to get a job at all?
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nancy pelosi said it was great for the economy so they might have something there...what a boon for the economic might of america, unlimited unemployment!
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05-15-2012, 05:09 PM
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Yeah! If nobody worked, the economy would BOOM! What a great plan!
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