GOP Debunked: Obama did not create $5 trillion in new debt

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

Which, according to the Obamatron, will never happen. Thanks for dutifully supporting and transmitting the message of the Obamatron in Chicago, CBJ7! Beats the hell out of having to think for yourself, doesn't it?

speaking of thinking for yourself, when are you going to get some new material for your standardized Obamatron post?

you say stupid shit, anyone counters your stupidity, and viola, theyre Obamatrons

[CuteOldGuy]

No, the Obamatron is the transmitter of liberal foolishness and Obama worship. It is located in Chicago. You should know that. Obamatons are those who worship and defend Obama whatever he does. Like you, CBJ7. The Obamatron transmits stupid comments for you and other Obamatons to post here, or relate elsewhere, and you dutifully follow your orders.

Try to get that right. I won't call Chicago on you this time, but I can't promise to be so generous in the future.

And if you don't want to be called an Obamaton, stop being one.

Oh, and a "viola" is a musical instrument. Apparently the Obamatron doesn't have context spell check. I think you may have meant "voilà", which is French for "to call attention, to express satisfaction or approval, or to suggest an appearance as if by magic". But you may have meant viola. God knows your comprehension and clarity are substantially below par.

[JD Barleycorn]

Lets not forget the GM bailout. They have still not paid it all back. $23 billion was from the Bush administration but BO counted it twice and said they paid up. They haven't. They still owe over $30 billion.

As for the numbers game; the CBO says that both wars have cost the country a little over 1 trillion dollars together. That is for over ten years. So that comes to a little over $100 billion a year. Or you think of it as ten times one years of Obama's deficits. Don't lie to me or try to fool me with numbers you punk.

[Munchmasterman]

Originally Posted by cptjohnstone

still blaming Bush, when does this stop?

You have never acknowledged his part or stated he had a significant role. Ignoring who started things is standard fare here.

But you knew that.

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by CuteOldGuy

No, the Obamatron is the transmitter of liberal foolishness and Obama worship. It is located in Chicago. You should know that. Obamatons are those who worship and defend Obama whatever he does. Like you, CBJ7. The Obamatron transmits stupid comments for you and other Obamatons to post here, or relate elsewhere, and you dutifully follow your orders.

Try to get that right. I won't call Chicago on you this time, but I can't promise to be so generous in the future.

And if you don't want to be called an Obamaton, stop being one.

Oh, and a "viola" is a musical instrument. Apparently the Obamatron doesn't have context spell check. I think you may have meant "voilà", which is French for "to call attention, to express satisfaction or approval, or to suggest an appearance as if by magic". But you may have meant viola. God knows your comprehension and clarity are substantially below par.

who needs spell check when I have you to follow me around and correct my typos?

if you think youre offending me with the constant obamatron childspeak, guess what? the only thing youre doing is proving youre a total idiot, so by all means call me an obamatron every time I make a post.

[Easyeddie]

Fall in line. Obama is and never will be responsible for anything. He can do no wrong. It's always Bush's fault.

[Randy4Candy]

Now, all of the time each of us spends here in the Sh*tbox may be fun, theraputic or whatnot, but our collective lobbing of hand grenades of humor, hate, scorn, and the occasional insight is merely an exercise in an appropriate place.

However, we seem to be mirroring what our elected federal government has become. How it got here has much to do with 24/7 talikng heads whose only motivation is to gen up, by whatever means, ratings for their "shows" and consequently, their earnings.

Each of the previous postings in this thread contains some degree of truth. Some of what each has written did happen. But, continually arguing for 100% acquiescence by the other side and being unwilling to accept anything but that is an ineffective (and unfunny) joke. What's worse is that all sides want the other to "agree" with their viewpoint before each will even consider anything but the status quo - which is working so well.

What each of us needs to do is quit writing in thie forum and redirect our efforts to our elected officials with one simple thought: Cut the Crap, Get the Fu*k to Work, Ignore Fox and MSNBC and FIX THIS SHIT!!! They need to understand that no one gives a rat's ass whether or not they get "primaried" or that their favorite lobbyist is going to cut off their source of pussy and trips. Each of them can easily get another job if their district turns on them. Some of these folks need to grow a pair, cut through the noise and either lead, follow or get the hell out of the way.

[oktome]

Originally Posted by CJ7

when his actions as president stop having a direct effect on the entire country

That is an inane statement. With that type of logic anyone can blame poor results in life on anything. My mom was an alcoholic, so if weren't for her I wouldn't be such a piece of shit. If it weren't for that rich guy I would be rich. Most people today excuse anything based on emotion not fact.

When a person talks about the worst economic crisis and in the same breath adds a massive new government expenditure in OBamacare that argument falls very flat.

We could blame Clinton for not getting Bin Laden, thus we could then excuse Bush for his miserable failings the last few years of his term. Why ,because if he did not have to focus on the war, he could have paid more attention to eventual collapse and prevented it. This argument gets very weak. Until the actions of Clinton are no longer having a direct effect on the country then we can stop blaming him WTF kind of logic is this?

Randy said it well, however what I see Randy is a complete willingness for most democrats to look at anything other than what they believe. You will rarely see a concession from them. Many republicans admit Bush's failings as well as the liberal spending habits of a republican congress. I will make a challenge to any liberal to even admit one thing Obama has not done right? Anything?

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by Randy4Candy

What each of us needs to do is quit writing in thie forum and redirect our efforts to our elected officials with one simple thought: Cut the Crap, Get the Fu*k to Work, Ignore Fox and MSNBC and FIX THIS SHIT!!.

Well put.

But you know, it really IS Bush's fault!

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by oktome

That is an inane statement. With that type of logic anyone can blame poor results in life on anything. My mom was an alcoholic, so if weren't for her I wouldn't be such a piece of shit. If it weren't for that rich guy I would be rich. Most people today excuse anything based on emotion not fact.

When a person talks about the worst economic crisis and in the same breath adds a massive new government expenditure in OBamacare that argument falls very flat.

We could blame Clinton for not getting Bin Laden, thus we could then excuse Bush for his miserable failings the last few years of his term. Why ,because if he did not have to focus on the war, he could have paid more attention to eventual collapse and prevented it. This argument gets very weak. Until the actions of Clinton are no longer having a direct effect on the country then we can stop blaming him WTF kind of logic is this?

Randy said it well, however what I see Randy is a complete willingness for most democrats to look at anything other than what they believe. You will rarely see a concession from them. Many republicans admit Bush's failings as well as the liberal spending habits of a republican congress. I will make a challenge to any liberal to even admit one thing Obama has not done right? Anything?

ramble much?

inane is pretending the costs of Bush policy stopped when he left office ... unless you have a magic wand that erases every cent he spent, he is, and will be having a direct effect on this country ... every president leaves a measure of debt in his wake, and that debt has an effect on the next president one way or another ... Bush was a lucky boy, he had a Clinton cushion stuffed with $$ to spend before he added another $5 Trillion bucks in the red column

deal with it

[CuteOldGuy]

Originally Posted by oktome

Randy said it well, however what I see Randy is a complete willingness for most democrats to look at anything other than what they believe. You will rarely see a concession from them. Many republicans admit Bush's failings as well as the liberal spending habits of a republican congress. I will make a challenge to any liberal to even admit one thing Obama has not done right? Anything?

It will never happen, Oktome. They are too Obatamized. Their Lord and Savior, Barack Obama, the Merciful, has never done anything wrong. In fact, they will not even admit the possibility that Barack Obama, may His Name be Praised, has ever even had a bowel movement.

He is the All-Knowing, All-Seeing (with help from the CIA and NSA), benevolent Father of us all. May Obama be gracious unto you, may Obama turn His face toward you, may Obama lift up His countenance on you, and give you His peace. Amen.

[oktome]

Originally Posted by CJ7

ramble much?

inane is pretending the costs of Bush policy stopped when he left office ... unless you have a magic wand that erases every cent he spent, he is, and will be having a direct effect on this country ... every president leaves a measure of debt in his wake, and that debt has an effect on the next president one way or another ... Bush was a lucky boy, he had a Clinton cushion stuffed with $$ to spend before he added another $5 Trillion bucks in the red column

deal with it

Again, hyperbole, ad hominem and other silly tactics to deflect truth. Deal with it!

Kneel to Washington and Obama like Muslims to Mecca. lol If you need any help with the graphs I have a MS in Finance you can ask me.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-clintons-balanced-budget-destroyed-the-economy-2012-9

[CJ7]

Originally Posted by oktome

Again, hyperbole, ad hominem and other silly tactics to deflect truth. Deal with it!

Kneel to Washington and Obama like Muslims to Mecca. lol If you need any help with the graphs I have a MS in Finance you can ask me.

http://www.businessinsider.com/how-bill-clintons-balanced-budget-destroyed-the-economy-2012-9

wow, Im impressed ... yes indeed I do need help with the charts. In your infinite wisdom and with your vast financial background, please point out on your charts where this country isnt feeling the DIRECT effects/costs of 2 Bush wars, Part D and the tax cuts ...

[oktome]

Originally Posted by CJ7

wow, Im impressed ... yes indeed I do need help with the charts. In your infinite wisdom and with your vast financial background, please point out on your charts where this country isnt feeling the DIRECT effects/costs of 2 Bush wars, Part D and the tax cuts ...

These charts don't point that out, what they do point out is that simply people oversimplify in an attempt to prove a point (ie Bush's fault). Once the veils of simplicity have been removed then a real discussion can begin, but that assumes someone wants a real discussion. We know most people either don't want to or are not capable of the thought processes needed to have an intelligent discussion.

[Yssup Rider]

Well that's a fine way to deflect a debate.

You fuckers are hilarious. You decry throw out the opinions of others as facts and then insult anybody who challenges them. I submit that the wingnuts on this board are so deep in the Republican/Fox/TeaParty bubble they are unable to discuss anything without hostility, sarcasm and aggression.

I remember eight years of Clinton bashing while Bush blundered and spent our world into ruin. it was all Clinton's fault. The fall of Western Civilization! At least he was born in America... But we weren't sure if he was a Muslim. Sheeeyit, he had to be!

LMAO @ Ideologically challenged dipshits!