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Old 09-21-2012, 01:56 PM   #16
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It's funny you bring up Osama, because wasn't he born out of the same type of thing you are talking about? Remember the Russians in Afghanistan? We backed Osama and his "jihadists" against the communists and it came back to bite us in the ass.

So if you are criticizing this type of strategy....you can't just blame Obama, you gotta bring Reagan and a whole lot of other presidents in it too.
That kind of strategy never works. Just look what happened when we allied with the Soviets against the Nazis.... Oh wait....nevermind.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:01 PM   #17
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That kind of strategy never works. Just look what happened when we allied with the Soviets against the Nazis.... Oh wait....nevermind.
Yea, we beat the Nazi's and got the Cold War. Gee that was fun.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:19 PM   #18
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the people in east berlin and russia were starving to death, and revolted against the government .. in 89 the gates were opened to stop a government revolution, and the people started tearing down the wall as a sign of victory

when Ronnie saw that he immediately made his "Tear down that wall" speech and gave himself credit for "winning the cold war"

he didnt win jack shit
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:27 PM   #19
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the people in east berlin and russia were starving to death, and revolted against the government .. in 89 the gates were opened to stop a government revolution, and the people started tearing down the wall as a sign of victory

when Ronnie saw that he immediately made his "Tear down that wall" speech and gave himself credit for "winning the cold war"

he didnt win jack shit
Check your chronology, dumbass, Ronnie wasn't president in '89 -- so his speech kinda predated the felling of the Berlin Wall. CBJ7, you don't know jack-shit!.
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Old 09-21-2012, 02:59 PM   #20
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got me

yeah, Runnin Ronnie made his photo op speech 2 years before the gates were opened and the people started wrecking the wall ..

which is even a more inane reason for handing him credit for winning a cold war ...

Reagan the Soothsayer, reader of tea leaves, predicting the future ... hero of morons.

that better sport?



speaking of timelines, yeah Ronnie was the official president in 89 ... untiln Jan 20th to be exact.

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Old 09-21-2012, 03:10 PM   #21
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CBJ7, your problem is that you just don't know when to STFU.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:00 PM   #22
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You are just surprised and I think a bit jealous that I know what Teapot Dome was.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:03 PM   #23
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Yea, we beat the Nazi's and got the Cold War. Gee that was fun.
Yea, but then Reagan beat the Ruskies, so it's all good.
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Old 09-21-2012, 11:07 PM   #24
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Check your chronology, dumbass, Ronnie wasn't president in '89 -- so his speech kinda predated the felling of the Berlin Wall. CBJ7, you don't know jack-shit!.
CJ never checks anything. He just makes this stuff up. He posts whatever pops into his head.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zc0BI7T1LA
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:17 AM   #25
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Yea, but then Reagan beat the Ruskies, so it's all good.
Really, Russia is beaten. Better tell Mitt, he said they are our biggest enemy.
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... you gotta bring Reagan and a whole lot of other presidents in it too.
....

Jimmy Carter set up the training camps by the CIA ... the ones that Clinton was unable to locate when he started lobbing tommies and killing goat herders.
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Old 09-22-2012, 06:38 AM   #27
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the people in east berlin and russia were starving to death, and revolted against the government .. in 89 the gates were opened to stop a government revolution, and the people started tearing down the wall as a sign of victory

when Ronnie saw that he immediately made his "Tear down that wall" speech and gave himself credit for "winning the cold war"

he didnt win jack shit
Does he make this crap up or did he actually attend a "school" that teaches it?
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Old 09-22-2012, 10:16 AM   #28
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Does he make this crap up or did he actually attend a "school" that teaches it?
It's Kool Aid intoxication: it destroys brain cells.
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Does he make this crap up or did he actually attend a "school" that teaches it?


1985 — Gorbachev comes to power.

1987 — Reagan and Gorbachev sign the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces Treaty (INF) in Washington. It removes more than 2,600 medium-range nuclear missiles from Europe.

March 1989 — Hungary decides to allow free elections and take down the fence between Hungary and Austria. Gorbachev says he will not stop the moves.

June 1989 — Poland holds its first free elections. The Solidarity (labor) Party beats the Communists.

July 1989 — Thousands of East Germans "vacation" in Hungary and then flee to the Austria and the West.

October 1989 — East German leaders celebrate the 40th anniversary of the founding of the Communist GDR. Two days later 70,000 protesters demand an end to the regime. Russian troops stay in their barracks and GDR soldiers and police back down. Communist leader Honecker is voted out of office by the Politburo.

November 1989 — Soldiers in East Berlin open some of the gates in the Berlin Wall. Crowds respond by tearing the wall down.

November 1989 — Bugaria's communist party leader resigns. Free elections held in June, 1990.

December 1989 — Protesters in Czechoslovakia jangle keys in front of the government saying, "Your time is up." The government gives up without violence, and elections are held.

December 1989 — Romanian communist forces kill 73 in riots. Crowds storm the government and later capture the leader Ceausescu. He and his wife are tried and executed. Elections are held.

June 1991 — In Yugoslavia, the provinces of Croatia and Slovenia declare their independence igniting a decade of fighting and genocide. Eventually, the country splits into Serbia, Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Herzegovina, and the region of Kosovo.

August 1991 — Russian military leaders put Gorbachev under house arrest and take over governing in order to save the Soviet Union. Boris Yeltsin, leader of the Russian Republic, occupies the Parliament building, defying the coup. The Army backs down.

December 1991 — The republics of Russia, Belarus and Ukraine act to dissolve the Soviet Union, finally freeing Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Belarus, Ukraine, Georgia, Moldova, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Kyrgyzstan, and Kazakhstan. You can see a map of the former Soviet Republics here



In the late 1980s, the Cold War came to a dramatic end. The economies of nations behind the Iron Curtain were in trouble. People in East Germany, for instance, could see the prosperity and wealth of their West German neighbors. In Russia, there were long lines of people waiting to buy food. They had to have coupons from the government just to buy socks. Some historians believe that the trillions of dollars that both the U.S. and the U.S.S.R. spent on nuclear arms and conventional armies had caused the problems in Russia. There was also a lot of pent up demand for freedom in the citizens living behind the Iron Curtain
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Old 09-22-2012, 04:28 PM   #30
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Accuracy people. The SOVIET UNION collapsed two decades ago. Romney was talking about the Russians which are not the same people. Don't you feel stupid now, you should.
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