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Old Yesterday, 08:51 AM   #16
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How many billionaires, developers, bankers, economists, Wharton graduates, Republicans and former Presidents were on the jury? Who was the injured party?
Hahahahahahahahsh

You’re suggesting exactly what Trump has been crying about ever since he sold his first state secret.
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Old Yesterday, 09:00 AM   #17
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Yes. . .and progressive liberals want reinstate voting rights for felons.
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Old Yesterday, 10:48 AM   #18
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Yes. . .and progressive liberals want reinstate voting rights for felons.
Change of topic but yes they should. On federal elections for sure. Local elections not so much.
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Old Yesterday, 11:25 AM   #19
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Yes, Trump has been convicted of 34 felony counts. I can't wait to see how many new charges he will be be convicted of.
How ironic that Trump is desperate to win the election to keep his ass out of jail. He'll be in court for the next 2-3 years.
Those were bull shit convictions. He paid off a porn star through Michael Cohen and got prosecuted for campaign law violations. The prosecution, like the rest of the ones in Manhattan, was political. Many people recognize that. And those 34 convictions might just result in Trump getting more votes than if he'd never been charged.

If you limited your post to charges he may be convicted of the future, like the election interference case Jack Smith is trying in Washington, D.C., I might agree with you.
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Thanks for reminding us. His poll numbers always improve when you do. Say goodbye to Minnesota!
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Those were bull shit convictions. He paid off a porn star through Michael Cohen and got prosecuted for campaign law violations. The prosecution, like the rest of the ones in Manhattan, was political. Many people recognize that. And those 34 convictions might just result in Trump getting more votes than if he'd never been charged.

If you limited your post to charges he may be convicted of the future, like the election interference case Jack Smith is trying in Washington, D.C., I might agree with you.
Politically motivated perhaps but completely legal and justified in my opinion.

Maybe he should not do extremely shady things before placing himself in the public eye.

He’s a felon through and through. He needs to change out his orange tanner for an orange jumpsuit.
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Politically motivated perhaps but completely legal and justified in my opinion.

Maybe he should not do extremely shady things before placing himself in the public eye.

He’s a felon through and through. He needs to change out his orange tanner for an orange jumpsuit.

what shady things?

you might find this interesting.


New Report: How Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and Judge Merchan Violated the Constitutional and Legal Rights of President Donald J. Trump

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/pr...rchan-violated


July 9, 2024
Press Release

WASHINGTON, D.C. – Today, the House Judiciary Committee and its Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government released an interim staff report titled, "Lawfare: How the Manhattan District Attorney's Office and a New York State Judge Violated the Constitutional and Legal Rights of President Donald J. Trump." The state or local prosecution of a current or former president by a popularly elected district attorney raises substantial federal interests and raises serious concerns about conflict between state and federal entities.


The report explains the several ways in which New York County District Attorney (DANY) Alvin Bragg's prosecution of President Trump suffers from severe legal and procedural defects, including:
  • Bragg's unconstitutional and unprecedented Russian-nesting-doll theory of criminal liability, in which the jury never had to reach unanimity as to each element of the criminal offenses; and
  • Bragg's usurpation of the federal government's exclusive authority to prosecute alleged violations of federal campaign finance laws and the Biden-Harris Administration's refusal to intercede to protect federal interests.

The report also details Judge Merchan's egregious legal rulings before and during the trial that all cut against President Trump's rights, including:
  • Judge Merchan's failure to recuse himself for manifest political bias against President Trump;
  • The unconstitutional gag order he imposed on President Trump during the trial;
  • Judge Merchan's admission of plainly inadmissible, irrelevant, and unfairly prejudicial testimony against President Trump; and
  • Judge Merchan's refusal to permit former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith to testify as to the meaning and complexities of the Federal Election Campaign Act.


Every person admitted to practice law in New York, including elected district attorneys and appointed judges, must take a "constitutional oath of office," swearing or affirming to "support the constitution of the United States, and the constitution of the State of New York." By taking that oath, District Attorney Alvin Bragg and Judge Juan Merchan were legally "bound to a constitutional course of conduct." In their politicized efforts to indict and convict President Trump, they failed their oaths of office.


Given that President Trump's indictment was conceived in legal and constitutional error and the trial exacerbated and compounded those errors, an honest review of the facts and the law will likely lead appellate courts to vacate the conviction and dismiss the indictment with prejudice. This will go a long way in restoring the American people's trust and confidence in our justice system, although more work is ahead. In the meantime, the Committee and Select Subcommittee will continue our oversight of lawfare and its effect on the rule of law in the United States.


Read the full interim staff report here.
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Trumpfler is a convicted convict with more convictions coming.
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what shady things?

you might find this interesting.


New Report: How Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg and Judge Merchan Violated the Constitutional and Legal Rights of President Donald J. Trump

https://judiciary.house.gov/media/pr...rchan-violated


July 9, 2024
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Your defense of Trump complains of political bias by the judge and prosecutors in NY but you use a report generated by the Republican controlled congress to make your point. Possibly the most biased and untrustworthy institution today.
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Your defense of Trump complains of political bias by the judge and prosecutors in NY but you use a report generated by the Republican controlled congress to make your point. Possibly the most biased and untrustworthy institution today.

are the democrats any different? the statute of limitations had run out on misdemeanor "record keeping" so Bragg a NY State prosecutor used a nonexistent Federal Campaign "violation" to both elevate these to felonies and get around the statute of limitations. the FEC itself investigated and found no violation, as did the DOJ. Bragg's "claim" that this should have been paid by Trump's campaign not personally by Trump is a load of shit.


in fact, if Trump had done what Bragg claims he should have .. it would have been a campaign violation.


care to refute any of the report's details? all of which are true.
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Stop selling it. I can't vote any Harder for Trump than I already have....

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Stop selling it. I can't vote any Harder for Trump than I already have....

Really?

I figured all this talk would have changed your mind.

Also, you vote hard? LOL, this is America, bro! Live like you wanna live. Just keep plenty of distance between you and the people in front of you at the pole-ing place. (Just kidding, I know you don't vote hard...)

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care to refute any of the report's details? all of which are true.

What's to refute. Republican congressmen believe that holding Trump to account is unconstitutional. That's a revelation.


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What's to refute. Republican congressmen believe that holding Trump to account is unconstitutional. That's a revelation.



deflect much?


The report explains the several ways in which New York County District Attorney (DANY) Alvin Bragg's prosecution of President Trump suffers from severe legal and procedural defects, including:
  • Bragg's unconstitutional and unprecedented Russian-nesting-doll theory of criminal liability, in which the jury never had to reach unanimity as to each element of the criminal offenses; and
  • Bragg's usurpation of the federal government's exclusive authority to prosecute alleged violations of federal campaign finance laws and the Biden-Harris Administration's refusal to intercede to protect federal interests.

The report also details Judge Merchan's egregious legal rulings before and during the trial that all cut against President Trump's rights, including:
  • Judge Merchan's failure to recuse himself for manifest political bias against President Trump;
  • The unconstitutional gag order he imposed on President Trump during the trial;
  • Judge Merchan's admission of plainly inadmissible, irrelevant, and unfairly prejudicial testimony against President Trump; and
  • Judge Merchan's refusal to permit former Federal Election Commission Chairman Bradley Smith to testify as to the meaning and complexities of the Federal Election Campaign Act.
can you refute any of this?
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Who is this? Jordan? Comer? Same guys who went after Biden? Same guys who sought to overturn the 2020 election?

Thought so.

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA!
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