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Old 11-11-2023, 02:00 PM   #16
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Anti-Gun activists cannot define what they mean by "Weapons Of War" and "Assault Rifle". We can use these terms loosly in informal conversation, but when it comes to defining them for legal purposes it is simply not possible. Many find this to be terminally frustrating.
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Old 11-11-2023, 04:31 PM   #17
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Anti-Gun activists cannot define what they mean by "Weapons Of War" and "Assault Rifle". We can use these terms loosly in informal conversation, but when it comes to defining them for legal purposes it is simply not possible. Many find this to be terminally frustrating.
They can't define it because they are fucking idiots. Anti Gun Activist don't have a clue about Firearms, Crime or self defense. The idiot in the following clip proves it.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJmFEv6BHM0
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Old 11-11-2023, 05:03 PM   #18
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... I'll even go a step further.
Because the police and military have them.

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Bullshit. There are no regular cops shooting 50 cal BMG. Maybe a SWAT team has one, but not you everyday constable. Hell do a Google search on the damage done by a 50 cal! Blowing bodies in half or arms off isn't too bad unless there are 3 or 4 ppl behind or around the perpetrator. Then you got a lot of problems.

I could say the only time that it would have been appropriate to shoot somebody with one of those, was when those crazy assholes in California robbed a bank and then went on a shooting rampage with their AK-47s and full body armor. That would have been a legitimate use for a 50 cal BMG. But generally speaking they are not used in civilian use
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Well, even the military classifies there .50 Cal rifles as "Anti-Materiel" weapons; but to go on: There is a considerable sub-community of competition shooters who punch out targets at very long ranges with rifles of that size.

In any case, The Constitution does not specify that the right to own and poses a firearm is limited to guns that are intended for shooting people.
Other amendments use language such as," . .congress shall make no law . . .". The Second Amendment is unequivocal in recognizing our gun rights as pre-existing, and that these rights must not be limited.

For the life of me, I simply do not see how a state legislature or city council can override the Second Amendment or any other portion of The Constitution by a voice vote or show of hands.
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A weapon that is used by the military in the war. Certainly not any that are sold to the population, they don’t meet the criteria
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A weapon that is used by the military in the war. Certainly not any that are sold to the population, they don’t meet the criteria

Please re-read the OP.


There you will find that many to most small arms used in war have a definite cross-over with the civilian world. this is true for rifles that were once designed for use by soldiers and are now considered to be acceptable in the civilian side, and it is true for firearms initially designed as civilian rifles and adopted by the military side.
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There you will find that many to most small arms used in war have a definite cross-over with the civilian world. this is true for rifles that were once designed for use by soldiers and are now considered to be acceptable in the civilian side, and it is true for firearms initially designed as civilian rifles and adopted by the military side.
right. certain types of firearms are dual use. meaning they are used by both civilians and military. so theres a fair amount of cross-over between the two sides over the years.
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Example:

The iconic Colt "Peacemaker" revolver of the wild wet, seen in so many quick-draw scenes in cowboy movies is a short barreled version of a gun designed specifically for the US Arny.

The Sharps rifle, well known as a buffalo gun saw its first wide use as a military weapon in the Civil War with General Breden's "Sharp Shooters".

Bolt action rifles designed and made by Mauser were the mainstay of the German Army from the 1870s up through 1945. Today, every bolt action hunting rifle has some lineage to those designs.

During the Viet Nam War, both the Army and Marines used nearly off-the shelf bolt action hunting rifles from Remmington and Winchester as sniper rifles.
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