Besides Trump Wacko and bambino, who thinks we should cede Ukraine to Putin

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by dilbert firestorm

some people here have forgotten about the berlin airlift.

soviets threatened to shoot down planes flying supplies to berlin.

none were shot down.

perhaps this is a different situation with respect to Ukraine.

I'm all for supplying weapons and food to ukraine, but I'd rule out intervention.

mostly, this is biden's and Europe's fault. this war was unnecessary, but apparently somebody wanted it.

Like Tucker Carlson said "do we really want to go to war with Russia" and he is called a purveyor of Putin propaganda. How dumb does a human being have to be to not consider that question salient? Ah, but the "burn it down and start over with Marxist ideology" crowd can twist any common sense into dystopia.


Are we really witnessing the end of this great experience in democracy, in this Republic? Will we be able to keep it Mr Franklin?

[HedonistForever]

For some reason this just came to me, maybe the Cabernet is kicking in.


Remember when Bill Mahr was on network TV and he made this comment, "so, say what ever you want about the 9/11 hijackers, they weren't cowards"! That got him fired. I know exactly what he meant, he was not on the side of the hijackers but the powers that be at the Ministry of Truth, took a vote of their board and decided "Nope", can't say that, but there is that whole thing about private enterprise and they can due what ever they want with your job but should they, to the extent it is being done today? When did we lose the right to speak our minds and not be cancelled?



Mahr tried to appease them, trying to explain that the wasn't high fiving the hijackers, oh never mind.


Point is, I just heard this report about this base where these MIG-29's, would be retrofitted in Western Ukraine if that decision was ever made. Well, somebody on the Russian side said "where exactly is this airbase they are talking about in Western Ukraine by Polish border"? "Here are the GPS coordinates right here General". "Plug them into a dozen cruise missiles that we will fire from plane in Russian airspace and take that base out". " Right away General".


Guess what, that base is gone! Not quite like world war 2 when they didn't discuss military plans on the phones and on the internet in the middle of a war, huh"?


Now, at least one of you, I won't name names, will see that as "praising Putin". But I can't lose a job I don't have or need, I can't be cancelled for saying anything I damn well please without being cancelled, at least not yet.


Just thought it was an interesting story. Good night.

[andymarksman]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

You could tell by the question that he doesn't understand geo-politics. It is not ours to cede as others have mentioned and I wouldn't say the West was "pushing" Ukraine to join NATO because the West didn't think Ukraine was close to being ready to join NATO, BUT, that isn't how it looked to Putin.


I really don't know if one month ago Ukraine would have signed an agreement to never join NATO, this invasion wouldn't have happened but it sure as hell might have. Sure, we all hate Putin but failing to understand the other's guy's argument on what he thinks his security needs are is a failure on our part and if that sounds like schilling for Putin, that's to damn bad. I can't concern myself with what morons that don't understand geo-polics think. Just imagine what we would do, hell, we don't have to imagine, we lived through it when we went to the brink of nuclear war to tell the Soviet Union we would not stand for Soviet missiles in Cuba. How the hell is Putin saying he will not stand for NATO missiles in a country that borders Russia any different? He was asking for a security agreement that we, the West ignored and now look where we are.

Mmm...your arguments sound so familiar, perhaps the Chicoms aren't such evil beings as some of our ignorant posters in this forum have alleged...




https://nationworldnews.com/chinese-...cherish-peace/

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

It's pretty obvious you have no idea whats going on between Ukraine and Russia and why this conflict is happening.

Can I put you in the Pro Putin camp?

[WTF]

Where is lustylad????

I've exposed all these peacenik Putin lovers.

You say I support Putin because I have invested in OUR oil companies!

Come on lustylad ,call out your Trump loving friends who support Putin.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by WTF

Can I put you in the Pro Putin camp?

I don't care what camp you put me in. For one thing you aren't tactical minded, secondly you have no clue how this conflict started or what the history is behind it. I'll put you in the camp of oblivious know nothings.

[dilbert firestorm]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

I don't care what camp you put me in. For one thing you aren't tactical minded, secondly you have know clue how this conflict started or what the history is behind it. I'll put you in the camp of oblivious know nothings.

of course hes a know nothing. thats why his avatar is a chimp.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

I don't care what camp you put me in. For one thing you aren't tactical minded, secondly you have no clue how this conflict started or what the history is behind it. I'll put you in the camp of oblivious know nothings.

Indifferent camp it seems....

Question: Should we have done anything to help the Jews during the 1940's?

[WTF]

Where is lustylad btw....I'm flushing all these Putin apologist and he is not taking his shots!

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by WTF

Indifferent camp it seems....

Question: Should we have done anything to help the Jews during the 1940's?

What do you think we should do?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

Indifferent camp it seems....

Question: Should we have done anything to help the Jews during the 1940's?

We did, along with the UK we established their own statehood.

[bambino]

Originally Posted by WTF

Indifferent camp it seems....

Question: Should we have done anything to help the Jews during the 1940's?

We did, along with the UK, we established their own statehood.
Professor Poofter.

https://www.archives.gov/education/lessons/us-israel

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

I think both LL's agree with me when I say I'd love to arm Ukraine and watch them kick the shit out of Putin. I'm suprised Lexy is siding against Trump not as suprised lustingfornuts can go against Trump

Some people should sober up before they post.

...... "go against Trump"......

Are the bimbos impressed yet?

[bambino]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Some people should sober up before they post.

...... "go against Trump"......

Are the bimbos impressed yet?

I think WTf appeals to Poofters.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

What do you think we should do?

Yes we liberated them after doing nothing in the 1930s