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Old 11-13-2023, 11:17 PM   #16
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Update: Trump used the term "vermin" to describe some less desirable folks yesterday. He specifically referred to "Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and radical left thugs".

Today MSNBC reacted by comparing him to Hitler... over dozen times.

On Oct. 7th Hamas slaughtered 1,400 Jews. They beheaded infants and even melted them in ovens in front of their mothers.

Question: How many times has MSNBC compared Hamas to Hitler, who we all know also exterminated Jews in ovens?

Answer: Zero.

Whatever happened to "Never again"?

Who do you trust for accurate news?

The network with moral clarity during this crisis (FOX)? Or the one too cowardly to call out Hamas as the REAL modern-day Nazis (MSNBC)?
... And THAT surely sayes it all - right there.

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Old 11-14-2023, 10:01 AM   #17
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Update: Trump used the term "vermin" to describe some less desirable folks yesterday. He specifically referred to "Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and radical left thugs".

Today MSNBC reacted by comparing him to Hitler... over dozen times.

The network with moral clarity during this crisis (FOX)? Or the one too cowardly to call out Hamas as the REAL modern-day Nazis (MSNBC)?
Since this is a two part'er, Trump is VERY much similar to demonizing a part of current society as extremely bad, such as anyone who isn't a TRUMPER GOPer. Essentially the same terms Juden that was used by Hitler in COUNTLESS speaches is being used to gaslight an entire sector of politics by one guy.

The fact that you don't see it is alarming. It doesnt' matter if someone is middle of the road politics, or even if they are conservative democrats, the terms used, are UNIVERSALLY applied at a Trump rally. Those terms he's used: "Communists, Marxists, Fascists, and radical left", are inter-changeable in the minds of his rally-goers, and I'd even say, to most of the conservatives here on this board. You're either with us, or youre against us mentality.

There is no middle ground in Trumplandia. You are either a true believer or you are the enemy. Simple as that.

In general most-99% of news sources are saying exactly the same thing, "Of course Israel is entitled to defend themselves" and even more, "Hamas wants to be at war with Israel, and when someone says that, they should be taken at their word".

As I write that last part, I cannot help but to think that in some ways, the Israeli's and the GOP think they are in the same fight. Israel vs. the Hamas, and the GOP vs. DEMs. ....or course that is a bit of a stretch, but sometimes it's really not all that far.

On this board, we've seen a group that is eager to do the big restart. A term to refer to a civil war, waged within the US, because they perceive the other side as the traitors of conservatism, and only can be dealt with by violence. And I'd even go further, where the comparison of "which side has the good guns" is often parallels in many posts.

The result is from so FUCKING much gaslighting that has happened out loud by the Trumper clan, from ppl beyond Dirty Donald, but even the likes of those morons that keep a constant drivel of monologue on FOX news which is on rinse and repeat. All in vain attempts to sell books and be relevant. Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Huckster-aby, and lets not forget even the women of FOX, like Ingraham, Dagan McDowell, and really almost the entire clan. Talk about a raging echo-chamber of koolaid drinkers. Hardly one person there with a voice of reason. They are led down the primrose path of Dems are bad, and Republicans are good; despite the shellacking they got in 2020, 2022 and recently. They only see their boy Trump as the mechanism to get back into power.

So what's wrong with that? Well, besides the completely baseless claims of Donald Trump about really "anything that comes out of his mouth", he's put an entire segment of gaslit population on High. When words lead to actions, or consequences, such as what was on Jan 6th, regardless of what you call it, it's tied to speech.

why is it bad, Well my conservative friends, Had Hillary decided to not call anyone deplorable, she likely would have won the 2016 election. So when you all lose in 2024, you'll have that to reflect on similarly.
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Old 11-14-2023, 11:55 AM   #18
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Trump IS Hitler, if Hitler was a fat pussy.

Period.
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Old 11-14-2023, 10:38 PM   #19
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Trump IS Hitler, if Hitler was a fat pussy.

Period.
... The Jews don't think so.

... Trump surely has a proven track record SUPPORTING Isreal.

Go back and look at all Trump did for them when He
was on as President.

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Old 12-25-2023, 06:12 AM   #20
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I can see how concerned y'all are about this. No comments for over a month.

You gotta' love creative editing. This guy changed the quote, which was made by the fox news hosts. It was reported by the NYT, not endorsed by them.

In its modified form, it doesn't show that the quote was made by fox to justify their attacks on anyone who points out the what some call the Israeli over reaction response. Over 20000 Palestinians have been killed along with 1400+ Israelis.
With 70% being women and children. The IDF needs to be more careful when going after Hamas.
Also, changing the quote to conceal who said it or to try to give legitimacy that it lacks just pointless. Why not tell the truth? Both sides have committed excesses (and yes, Hamas struck first). Israel needs to establish its goals and be careful when attacking.
And posters should keep from lying about the situation.
It's bad enough as it is. Lying is lying. If you can't win a discussion without lying, it shows the character the person lacks. Below is the quote. The portion that is in Bold is the portion that was removed. Notice that no mention was made of the edit. Funny he used the term "fake news" after he added fake news to his post.
"Fox anchors, especially those who offer the most steadfast defense of Israel on their shows, insist that they are shining a light on reports of antisemitism that other media overlook and are dnisplaying support for an American ally that is being wrongly vilified."
Stating what has happened is not vilifying. It's just telling the truth.


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This is according to the New York Times:

"Fox anchors... are shining a light on reports of anti-semitism that other media overlook and are displaying support for an American ally that is being wrongly vilified."

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/03/b...ws-israel.html


And while anti-Semitic violence is spiking all around us, the tone-deaf Biden administration warns us to be on guard against "Islamophobia".

You can't make this shit up!
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Old 12-25-2023, 08:52 AM   #21
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... The Jews don't think so.

... Trump surely has a proven track record SUPPORTING Isreal.

Go back and look at

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Who are “The Jews” who don’t think so? MmNot me. Certainly no more than 10% of “The Jews” at my Temple or at the Austin JCC. Even now while war rages in the Middle East. And btw, it’s Israel, not the way you pronounce it.

What about all “The Jews” you know? Maybe all the Jewish people in West Virginia, eh Salty?

No, “The Jews” do not support Trump or watch Fox News. You’re quoting a single story by Fox spun by the OP, which you accept as fact. Unless you think “The Jews” are single issue voters or don’t see themselves as Americans … a common mistake made by folks with low information and lower knowledge.

Please list or even summarize “all Trump did for them when He
was on as President.” Please use a second sheet of paper if you need it.

What are you doing to ease the rise in antisemitism? Watching Fox isn’t it.

“The Jews” disagree with you.

Tsk tsk
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Old 12-25-2023, 04:49 PM   #22
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You gotta' love creative editing. This guy changed the quote, which was made by the fox news hosts. It was reported by the NYT, not endorsed by them. ...
He ain't the only one that does that. Especially here. When it ain't right to their believes, the lets-make-it-look-right rightie rights pull out the whiteout.
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Old 12-26-2023, 08:19 PM   #23
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Who do you trust for accurate news?

The network with moral clarity during this crisis (FOX)? Or the one too cowardly to call out Hamas as the REAL modern-day Nazis (MSNBC)?
I've gotta say I nearly got caught reading the "ho board" in public when I busted out laughing at this one!!

Do I trust FOX news about anything??

FUCK NO. They are on 24/7/365 gas-lighting for Trump.

No interview or conversation doesn't mention him in a positive light, or that he's the savior either figuratively or literally. They drank so much of their own Kool-Aid they are complete group of fools.

And while I don't have a problem with religion being brought up, they have taken a pro religion stance on every topic to the point where they're not looking for a Republic democracy, they're looking for a theological democracy.

They can go straight to fucking hell since they believe in that shit.

And as far as morals go, good God, just look at the lawsuits! If I was looking for morality I don't think I would turn on TV station unless it was the 700 club and probably that would be a mistake too
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