Medicaid, old people, obamacare, wtf

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by timpage

The get a good deal less than 25%. Of course, they overcharge you anyway, in full recognition that Medicare isn't going to pay those charges. Neither do private health insurers.

Don't cry too hard for the doctors and pharmacies, they're doing alright.

Ok, you've all bitched and whined about Medicare. We've noted that as a result of Medicare, $114,000 went into the system for this couple. Let's set that aside. How many of you have $100K in a medical savings account today? Or expect to at any point in your life?

Nearly half of Americans have less than $500 in savings. Nearly 80% have less than $100,000. So? Where is the $355,000 gonna come from?

Why would I waste 100K and put it in a medical savings account when I can spend it on hookers?

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by WTF

Only you would be dumb enough to celebrate being old! If I got pissed off if AIDS patients got free medical care would you go get butt fucked by Rock Hudson?

I guess you are assuming a dead guy can get it up? Oh, I forgot who I was talking to, you have sex with dead guys or live guys, doesn't matter - so you would know the answer - so what is it?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

I guess you are assuming a dead guy can get it up? Oh, I forgot who I was talking to, you have sex with dead guys or live guys, doesn't matter - so you would know the answer - so what is it?

OK, go get butt fuc'd by Magic Johnson if you don't want to get butt fuc'd by a dead guy!

[JD Barleycorn]

The system WTF refers to was set up by democrats, not old people. Those old people are the targets of the democrats.

One thing forgotten at the beginning of this is that people who smoke and die from a sudden coronary save the government money.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

Only you would be dumb enough to celebrate being old!

Shall "we" celebrate the young, dumb whiners, who don't have enough sense to come out of the rain, like yourself? All those taxes we paid for your education and this is the best we get in the way of a return for our investment? Are your parents upset also? I'm disgusted. A real waste.

[SpinShooter]

Originally Posted by seedman55

But the freeloaders, welfare, food stamps, housing subsidies, oscumbo phones, they have earned their keep. We, the hard working middle class have to support these deserving people. That is the libtard, and communist way, didn't you folks know that?

So, you don't support welfare, food stamps, or housing subsidies at all? You do know that some people actually need those, and that very few people are actually abusing the system and getting those things when they don't actually qualify for them, right? Also, would you people please get away from the notion that Obama began the phone program?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by SpinShooter

Also, would you people please get away from the notion that Obama began the phone program?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/taxes/cellphone.asp

Ooohhhhh, ooooook, it wasn't the "Obaminable Administration" .. it WAS ...

.. the Federal Government. I'm sooooo sorry, .....

...if I ever accused Obaminable of doing such a thing.

He killed OBL ... but he ain't passin' out free cell phones! Gotcha.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by WTF

OK, go get butt fuc'd by Magic Johnson if you don't want to get butt fuc'd by a dead guy!

Well, unlike you, I do not like faggots sticking their dick in my ass. Perhaps you learned to do that to your subcontractors that you screw over on a regular basis? Do you people take turns with each other?

[WTF]

Originally Posted by LexusLover

Shall "we" celebrate the young, dumb whiners, who don't have enough sense to come out of the rain, like yourself?.

I have enough sense to understand simple math.

Originally Posted by LexusLover

All those taxes we paid for your education and this is the best we get in the way of a return for our investment? Are your parents upset also?.

What? You do not like that I have exposed your greed. You did not put enough into the system, yet you bitch if we try and ask you to give up the last two weeks of your life to help save the system. If you wanted to live those two extra weeks, you should have saved more money and pay for it out of pocket. That is wtf Paul Ryan basically proposed. Except he had to bribe the greedy voting folks over 55 to go to that system. Your generation did not tweek the SS/Medicare system enough to make allowences for people living longer and the rising cost of medical care.

As to school taxes, I'm 53, I paid 50k in school taxes last year, I do not keep a running total but it is above the average I would say, I do not have children btw. So I think I have paid in way more into the school system than I have gotten out compared to most. Most folks have kids and that is somewhat of a wash. So to answer that BS charge. My parents paid school taxes and sent four kids to school. I paid school taxes and have sent not one kid to school. So once again you lose that argument.

It is a simple math problem. You generation is taking out of Medicare more than they have put in. That is a fact. My parents understand because I have shown them the math. Math is a science LL, the best science.

Originally Posted by LexusLover

I'm disgusted. A real waste.

Are you disgusted because you can not understand simple math or are you disgusted because I have exposed your greed? Which is it?

The system needs to be overhauled. Old folks are breaking Medicare with this last two weeks of end of life care. That is a fact. Now what do you propose? I say we let you and others pay that extra 150k if you can afford it but quit asking the younger generation to pay it for you.

[LexusLover]

Originally Posted by WTF

I do not have children.

First of all, that is the most heartening tidbit of information I've ever seen you post ...

.. of the minuscule amount of INFORMATION you post. At least Darwin has a shot!

As for paying school taxes ... whether one has children makes no difference .. we all benefit from the education of the young, except for those like you who really don't benefit from the opportunity .. but I'm glad you are paying in your fair share annually. As a fascist-socialist you ought to be proud of a system in which people put in more than they get out.

I feel your pain, but not from a fascist-socialist point of view. Perhaps you paying in more is God's way of offsetting the burden you have put on our society by not having benefited from the opportunities all those old codgers gave you ... with no benefit back.

Are you trying to save "Medicare" .......

.... or are you trying to hurry up "WTFcare" from your parents?

They must be old too.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The system WTF refers to was set up by democrats, not old people. Those old people are the targets of the democrats.

.

It as not been tweaked since Regan in 86. It needs to be adjusted....what I am saying is that the old fuckers (who by any measure) have not put enough into the system compared to what they want out of the system, cry bloody murder if you ask them to sacrifice one bit to help save the system for all.

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

One thing forgotten at the beginning of this is that people who smoke and die from a sudden coronary save the government money.

Well, true in one sense , Medicare. Which is like looking at one stil picturel in a running movie and trying to figure out the movie. They (Smokers) cost everybody more in the long run with the huge costs of cancer treatment, missed work and productivity. Something you seem to discount. That translates into higher insurance premiums for all which leads to higher prices. So while what you say is true in one sense, if you look at the bigger picture it is not totally as you try to make it out to be.