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Old 08-30-2012, 11:05 AM   #16
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You are late in reading your response faxes from the Obama campgain; the plant closing was in 2009...The WAPO, and your buddies at MSNBC had the story wrong......


And Ryan's other memorable (and very true) zinger:

Listen to the way we’re spoken to already, as if everyone is stuck in some class or station in life, victims of circumstances beyond our control, with government there to help us cope with our fate.
WW and that really impresses you huh? A man who voted with Bush on well over 50% of the time- Ryan voted for the Bailouts- even supported George Bush stimulus plan-lol.

Look at this video starting at 0.58 Where Ryan admits that Government stimulus creates Jobs- what a fucking flip flopper he is-this video is from 2002. Paul Ryan clearly admits during a Recession that stimulus is needed to create jobs- which was Obama's platform. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv1yWrAsCAc
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:08 AM   #17
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And by the way dumbass, have you looked at what some of those tenured professors are making? And by the way dumbass, have you looked at how much some of these colleges have in their own banks? Don't give me shit for not wanting to pay for your kids college dumbass due to your failure to plan for their future.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:09 AM   #18
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You are late in reading your response faxes from the Obama campgain; the plant closing was in 2009...The WAPO, and your buddies at MSNBC had the story wrong......


And Ryan's other memorable (and very true) zinger:

Listen to the way we’re spoken to already, as if everyone is stuck in some class or station in life, victims of circumstances beyond our control, with government there to help us cope with our fate.


It’s true that the plant didn’t last another year, as Ryan said. In fact, the Business Journal in Milwaukee wrote that the assembly plant shut down on Dec. 23, 2008, at the tail end of the Bush administration, a victim of the financial crisis and dwindling demand for the SUVs produced at the plant. That’s nearly one month before Obama was sworn into office.
About 100 workers were kept on in 2009 to finish a truck order and help shut down the plant, according to the Associated Press.
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Old 08-30-2012, 11:12 AM   #19
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WE; it is easy for Ryan to walk back a statement made a decade ago; but alot harder for President Obama to walk back his 2009 pledge to cut our deficit in-half during his 1st term, to use Obama's words "to take responsibity right now!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaQUU2ZL6D8

Or Obama's 2008 condemnation of President Bush running up debt as "Unpatriotic", then Obama triples the Bush debt !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmr...eature=related

NOW THAT IS HYPOCRISY IN TRIPLE SPADES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:00 PM   #20
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WE; it is easy for Ryan to walk back a statement made a decade ago; but alot harder for President Obama to walk back his 2009 pledge to cut our deficit in-half during his 1st term, to use Obama's words "to take responsibity right now!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SaQUU2ZL6D8

Or Obama's 2008 condemnation of President Bush running up debt as "Unpatriotic", then Obama triples the Bush debt !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyLmr...eature=related

NOW THAT IS HYPOCRISY IN TRIPLE SPADES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's even harder for Romney to talk about Obamcare that was crafted from Romneycare- had there been no Romneycare we wouldn't have Obamacare as we have it now.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:11 PM   #21
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The government did not pay for my college education, I did and I'm far from rich. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink. If my kids wanted to attend college, and one did, it was paid by me not the government. If they show a tendency or drive they will find a way. We already pay for their basic education, which by the way is very basic nowadays. Now if you want to up those standards back to where they used to be I'm all for that.
Yeah sure you did- your children must have went to a technical or community college in Kansas. Here's a website with average tuition in your state: http://affordability.ku.edu/cs/index.shtml
Remember, you admitted that you were far from rich, but yet you are this great guy that can afford 33k a year tuition without govt assistance- and for any student who s on pell grant or whose parents have to take out loans for a 33k a year tuition must be welfare recipients???
However you are a good American that doesn't need a dime from the government but yet you have sent your child or children to college all by your lonesome???? I wonder if your childen know they have you have at least paid 4 times to see a hooker??? Wow couldn't that money you spent on hookers could have went to your children's textbooks- you know they are pretty expensive these days.
I really laugh at you guys who try to come off as so patriotic and don't need govt and have these great moral standards- yet from your profile you have frequented 4 hookers- did you report that on your tax returns???? Get the fuck out of here and stop trying to be something you are obviously not!!!!
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:19 PM   #22
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You are a total fucking idiot, how I spend MY money is my business. Just because your a loser and can't figure out your own life doesn't mean nobody else can either.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:34 PM   #23
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You are a total fucking idiot, how I spend MY money is my business. Just because your a loser and can't figure out your own life doesn't mean nobody else can either.
Wow got under your skin- but listen to what you said: How you spend your money is your business?"
Yes many woman say what they do with their body is their business right and not the govt's business, but yet the republicans want to tell a woman what she can do with her body- can't have it both ways- and you are such a liar- can you tell me what school your children or child attended????
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:42 PM   #24
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WSU, engineering if you really need to know. I'm not a Republican, not a Dem either. I have never ever told a woman what to do with their body.....unless its pressed up to mine. Like I said, just cause your a loser and can't figure out your own life doesn't mean nobody else can either.
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Old 08-30-2012, 12:46 PM   #25
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I don't think hooker donations are deductible, so they really don't need to be reported to the IRS.

Ryan also said that something to the effect that "We believe our rights devolve from nature and God, and not the government." (I'm not sure that's an exact quote.) Does he really believe that? Then how can he support the NDAA and Patriot Act, and numerous other laws that have attacked our freedom in the last 20 years? He's a big, all-powerful government guy, just like the rest of them.
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You guys keep pulling from all left leaning sources. Do you ever listen to the other side? I did Alex Bennett this morning. The guy actually said, If you need to get your point across then take stuff out of context. Really? That's lying. I'm listening to Left as well as Patriot and if I were brand new to American politics, I'd go with patriot. Bennitt even said G D. I usually sorta like Bennett. He's smart and fair to a point, but he loses me when he talks about openly lying and cursing others like he did. It just sounded wrong.

Can any of you post links to sources that are not personal news outlets for Obama? I'm much more likely to listen to you if you post something besides huffington post, etc. Ariana huffington, is about as socialist as they come. She was smart to not dismiss a certain commentator. If her peers had listened to her, they may have been able to shut him down... too late now, thank God.
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Alex Bennett, is an American talk radio host, known for his mix of left-wing politics and humor. He currently hosts a weekday radio show on Sirius Satellite Radio channel "SIRIUS Left 127" and XM Radio's "America Left" Channel 167
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WSU, engineering if you really need to know. I'm not a Republican, not a Dem either. I have never ever told a woman what to do with their body.....unless its pressed up to mine. Like I said, just cause your a loser and can't figure out your own life doesn't mean nobody else can either.
ok based on this website- I did the bare minimum- this is not even including books and I am just going to assume that they stay off campus- tuition would at the very least be 10,000 a year: http://webapps.wichita.edu/netprice/
So you are telling me that avg family has 10,000 minimum just sitting in their bank accounts right?
Also, if you were far from Rich than your child would be eligible for Pell grants which do not have to be re-payed. Yet you are such a great guy that you will turn down any govt help- what a lying loser you are my friend.
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Old 08-30-2012, 01:35 PM   #29
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If you can't figure out how to save money don't blame me. I didnt try to keep up with the Jones's. I didn't live beyond my means. I worked out a budget. Man you just don't get it, there are some of us that are capable of using our head. We don't need the government to take us by the hand and spoon feed us. The more government takes away from you, the less you have. Don't you get it...I guess not.
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Alex Bennett, is an American talk radio host, known for his mix of left-wing politics and humor. He currently hosts a weekday radio show on Sirius Satellite Radio channel "SIRIUS Left 127" and XM Radio's "America Left" Channel 167
I stay on Sirius 114, 125, 126; 127 is evil.
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