Bankman-Fried FTX bankruptcy hearing

[WTF]

Question...Are Republican lawmaker against crypto moreso than their counterparts?

[VitaMan]

It's surprising what people will believe or not believe, and who is lying, based on their political affiliation.


What is not surprising is that political donors give donations to politicians of both parties.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by WTF

Why would he not give to both parties?

Both parties could have effected his business.

Use a little common sense.

So it is not a matter of believing Sam...it is a matter of common sense. You'd have done the same thing in his shoes.

The real question should be this dark money option.

Yes Ryan Salame donated $23 million to Republicans and right of center PACs. Salame could lobby the right and Bankman Fried the left. It’s the dark money claim I’d question. I believe you and Vitaman are naive to reflexively believe it. Also collectively Bankman Fried and Salame gave more to Democrats

[WTF]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

It's surprising what people will believe or not believe, and who is lying, based on their political affiliation.


What is not surprising is that political donors give donations to politicians of both parties.

Evidently our friends on the right think crypto was some huge Green energy play!

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

It's surprising what people will believe or not believe, and who is lying, based on their political affiliation.

That’s what you’re doing in this thread.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by WTF

Question...Are Republican lawmaker against crypto moreso than their counterparts?

What’s a moreso?

[VitaMan]

Originally Posted by Tiny

That’s what you’re doing in this thread.

No, I am setting the record straight on who received political contributions from Bankman-Fried.


Previous threads and posters jumped all over the Democrats and Bankman-Fried and crypto.

When they learn Bankman-Fried contributed as much to Republicans, they freak out and call him a liar.



But Republicans don't call Mr. Trump a liar.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Tiny

What’s a moreso?

It is a Reagan apologist

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Yes Ryan Salame donated $23 million to Republicans and right of center PACs. Salame could lobby the right and Bankman Fried the left. It’s the dark money claim I’d question. I believe you and Vitaman are naive to reflexively believe it. Also collectively Bankman Fried and Salame gave more to Democrats

Here is a question....What difference does it make?

Are Republicans anti Crypto?

Is it Democrats fault the FTX collapsed?

Did Sam only steal from Republicans?

What is the point?

Are you trying to imply Crypto was some Democrats way of cheating out greedy Republican investors?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

No, I am setting the record straight on who received political contributions from Bankman-Fried.


Previous threads and posters jumped all over the Democrats and Bankman-Fried and crypto.

When they learn Bankman-Fried contributed as much to Republicans, they freak out and call him a liar.

Bankman-Fried is a huge liar and a huge crook. You and WTF are bright people and you should know that. If you don't, I'd attribute it to either brainwashing by the main stream media or getting carried away with partisanship.

Bankman-Fried was probably lying about the dark money. Again, why would he contribute dark money to pro-Republican organizations? The Republican Congressmen would never know he gave them the money. That's the nature of dark money. That would be a very ineffective way of buying people off, giving them money anonymously.

I didn't take you and WTF to be conspiracy theorists. You certainly don't believe that thousands of Democrats came together in an organized way to cheat Trump out of millions of vote in the 2016 and 2020 elections. Well, believing SBF used dark money (anonymous contributions) to buy off the Republican Party is just as wild.

Originally Posted by VitaMan

But Republicans don't call Mr. Trump a liar.

Donald Trump is a liar.
Donald Trump is a liar.
Donald Trump is a liar.
Donald Trump is a liar.

And I'd repeat it another 10,000X, except I'd crash the thread and get suspended like Strokey McDingDong.

What does Donald Trump have to do with this? Can I start my own threads where I compare Edwin Edwards, Lyndon Baines Johnson, Elizabeth Warren, and a multitude of other famous Democratic liars to Sam Bankman-Fried too?

Originally Posted by WTF

Here is a question....What difference does it make?

What difference does it make? Are you kidding? If you believe that SBF was half assed telling the truth, again, the explanation would be that he put Ryan Salame, co-CEO of FTX, up to contributing money to Republicans. SBF could lobby the Democrats and Salame could lobby the Republicans.

Salame donated about $20 to $23 million to politicians, mostly Republicans, compared to $40 million for SBF, who donated mostly to Democrats. Anyway you slice it or dice it, FTX executives and owners gave about 2X more to Democrats than Republicans.

The problem with this theory though is that Salame was a straight arrow, compared to SBF. He was an accountant for Ernst & Young before he went to work for FTX. And he turned SBF and FTX into Bahamanian authorities, which along with other developments forced FTX into bankruptcy. So maybe he just liked Republicans. Maybe he and SBF weren't engaged in a plot to buy off the two parties.

Sam Bankman Fried invested a lot of money and time in showing support for the Democratic Party. He's a Democrat at his core. Perhaps his parting gift to his party was the "Dark Money" lie, tempered by his confession that if he publicly gave money to Republicans he'd be fucked over big time by the media.

The fact that SBF is a crook however, doesn't mean all Democrats are crooks. Yeah, maybe the Democratic politicians are crooks, but most of the Democratic voters are good people. Misguided, but good. And salvageable.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Tiny

What difference does it make?...


....The fact that SBF is a crook however, doesn't mean all Democrats are crooks. Yeah, maybe the Democratic politicians are crooks, but most of the Democratic voters are good people. Misguided, but good. And salvageable.

Salvageable...lol

Riddle me this.

If all Democrat Politicians are crooks. What are all the Republican politicians( especially those that took FTX contributions) ?

If it means they too are crooks...I ask again, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

So they gave 40 million to Democrats and 20 million to Republicans? Do you think Republicans would NOT have taken 40 million?

So again...WDDIM?

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by WTF

Salvageable...lol

Riddle me this.

If all Democrat Politicians are crooks. What are all the Republican politicians( especially those that took FTX contributions) ?

If it means they too are crooks...I ask again, WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?

So they gave 40 million to Democrats and 20 million to Republicans? Do you think Republicans would NOT have taken 40 million?

So again...WDDIM?

I'm making your point for you, and you come back with "what difference does it make." Without Salame, you're left with an out and out lie, that SBF channeled as much dark money to Republicans as he gave legitimately to Democrats. To be clear, that's SBF's lie, not Vitaman's. Vitaman is just gullible.

With Salame in the picture, if you believe SBF directed him to make the contributions, it's still a lie. But you could argue that SBF doesn't know WTF dark money is, and he's prone to exaggeration.

I do think you're salvageable WTF. You have regressed. You're no longer a three-quarters Libertarian, you're more like 75% Democrat and 25% Libertarian. But you are salvageable.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by Tiny

I'm making your point for you, and you come back with "what difference does it make." Without Salame, you're left with an out and out lie, that SBF channeled as much dark money to Republicans as he gave legitimately to Democrats. To be clear, that's SBF's lie, not Vitaman's. Vitaman is just gullible.

With Salame in the picture, if you believe SBF directed him to make the contributions, it's still a lie. But you could argue that SBF doesn't know WTF dark money is, and he's prone to exaggeration.

I do think you're salvageable WTF. You have regressed. You're no longer a three-quarters Libertarian, you're more like 75% Democrat and 25% Libertarian. But you are salvageable.

You're missing the point...both Republicans AND Democrats recieved money and BOTH would have gladly taken more.

So again, what is your point.

Are you and Waco trying to say Republicans lawmakers did not take money or would not have taken political donations from FTX? If , so then please explain why you believe this.

If not, again again and again...What is your point?

Politicians take donations....that 8s the nature of the beast. We're Republicans not overwhelming for dark money , maybe there would be no such thing. But as you know that was a battle Democrats and John McCain lost long ago.!

[VitaMan]

They can't be that naive.


They just are unable to admit it or believe it......exactly like Mr. Trump.


Using political donations to bash Democrats too. You can find other things to use to bash Democrats. Unfortunately they tried to use this as a lay up.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

They can't be that naive.

Don't sell them short!

They still think Reagan balanced the budget!

Their new hero is DJT aka...Baghdad Bob. Remember that guy? That's who Trump reminds me of!