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Originally Posted by acp5762
Yeah right dumb ass Armed Robbers always run into people's houses in an effort to evade the police. Happens all the time doesn't it. I suppose you also believe it's common for the Police to go door to door looking for Felony suspects, and have the right to gain entry without consent or probable cause. You are such a fucking dupe, it's pathetic.
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A problem with these types of discussions, they tend to drift away from the facts.
"Reasonableness" is based on the information known and reported at the time ...
... as opposed to "Monday morning" ... in this case what the media was passing out.
What we don't know is what LE knew at the time.
These two guys were suspects in terrorist bombings that indiscriminately killed innocent bystanders and by the time a search was on cop killers, car jackers, and kidnappers, who had just engaged in a running gun battle with LE ... in which they were apparently tossing bombs ("grenades") along with way ... and also apparently had another pressure cooker bomb in their possession.
.. one of them was on foot and "losse" in residential neighborhoods ..
Now you can "modify" that information all you want to make your point about how this country is going into the "police state" shitter, but your modified facts are irrelevant to the reality faced with LE .... and some of you have already started whining about they should have prevented the event in the first place ....
.. what would you be saying if this guy had taken out another family or two on the loose?
I suppose (although they way some of you post I'm not so sure) that had you lived in the neighborhood, and this turd was in your home holding your family hostage and the police came to the door, you would want them to come in (as many as they could cram inside your house) with OVERWHELMING force to neutralize the situation and render your family safe from this turd ... as opposed to taking your word at the door that "everything" is "ok" while the turd had a pistol pointed at your kids head!
If you lied and said "everything is ok" and LE didnt' come in, how would you feel when you saw your kid's brains on the wall after the police left, then your wife (SO), or perhaps you would be first so you would be spared of that horror.
What do you think?
The guy that ultimately called 911 about the blood on his boat ... was close ... and apparently he was inviting them to come over and investigate. He's a hero as far as I am concerned ... more interested in the community good of securing the community than worrying about this country becoming a "police state" or using this horrendous event to "make a point" in furtherance of a "social-political" agenda on a Sex Biz Board.
COG you're the kinda guy who screams first and loudest when the cops don't show!
Gnad ... the "mayor" has little to nothing to do with the daily police operations and techniques and shouldn't ... that injects poltics into the decision making, and few mayors have sufficient LE comprehension to even have a clue. There are lots of "mayors" posting on this board. The "old Mayor Daley" did, and LBJ used the FBI.
Of all places in the United States the people in the Houston metro area ought to understand ... "sheltering" in place .... lately with repeated school violence .. we have schools "locking down" when violent events occur nearby to assure that the alleged "actor" does not get inside the school and use that venue in a standoff. It's common.
The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly exempted compliance with the literal language of the 4th amendment to provide for emergency situations, police saftey, and PUBLIC SAFETY.
To use this scenario (Boston BOMBINGS) to whine about a coming "police state" is to say the least IGNORANT, and reminds me of the childhoold "chicken little" story!
I'll repeat again: You folks who want to fight terrorism "at home" .... you got it! And the rest of you who whine about "pre-emptive strikes" .... you are now going to learn something about why the old "hue and cry" policies of LE changed.
