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08-10-2019, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by kehaar
Marxism is fundamentally economics. It is also the basis for Krugman's view of the world. The fact that Krugman, along with Jimmy Carter(who used access to food supplies as a weapon in peacetime), and Obama received Nobel prizes is a stain on that organization.
Capitalist economics is bases on science and rationale bases. The rest of the economic constructs, not so much.
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Europeans have been doing Democracy a little longer than the U.S.
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08-11-2019, 12:06 AM
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But .. look at all of the successful socialist economies ... oh wait
BAHHAHHAHASAAAAAA
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08-11-2019, 12:18 AM
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AKA ULTRA MAGA Gurl
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the answer .. by your own link .. is NONE. but you knew that, right??
Paul Marks
Answered Aug 25, 2018
Originally Answered: What is the most successful socialist country in all of history?
No socialist country, i.e. a country where the state controls all the means of “production, distribution and exchange”, can be “successful” in terms of the standard of life of its people, because socialism does not work (see Ludwig Von Mises “Socialism” and “Human Action” and Henry Hazlitt “Economics In One Lesson”). A country is successful in proportion to how far it moves AWAY from socialism - for example the “People’s Republic of China” claims to be a “socialist” country, but the vast majority of production China is actually private (“capitalist”) and China actually has less government benefits and “public services” than Western countries such as the United States.
Under Mao (when China actually was socialist - rather than a “capitalist” country pretending to be socialist) tens of millions of people starved to death - see the historical works of Frank Dikotter on this (as well as “Mao: The Untold Story” by Jung Chang).
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Great Chinese Famine
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine
thank you valued socialist.
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08-11-2019, 10:37 AM
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Truth and Facts are irrelevant when DPST's compae to their idiotology narrative.
Marxism uber alles!!
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08-12-2019, 07:45 AM
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Yupper ^^^^
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08-19-2019, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by eccieuser9500
Europeans have been doing Democracy a little longer than the U.S.
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I'd debate you on this, as you have forgotten recent history(like WWII). If you are stating fact about the first use of democracy, I am quite sure there were tribes of people that attempted to be fundamentally democratic long long ago. If you are talking about continuous democracies, Iceland doesn't really count as a European country.
That being said, Europeans being democratic have nothing to do with Paul Krugman, and your post is ill formed, stupid, and off topic.
And typical.
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08-19-2019, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by themystic
True capitalists pay their bills and don't hide behind bankruptcy 6 times. Trump is a stain on human decency
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That's ol' Trumpy for ya
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08-19-2019, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by kehaar
I'd debate you on this, as you have forgotten recent history(like WWII). If you are stating fact about the first use of democracy, I am quite sure there were tribes of people that attempted to be fundamentally democratic long long ago. If you are talking about continuous democracies, Iceland doesn't really count as a European country.
That being said, Europeans being democratic have nothing to do with Paul Krugman, and your post is ill formed, stupid, and off topic.
And typical.
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That's not fair to play the history card kehar. Didn't you just have to study to pass your citizenship test?
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08-19-2019, 11:28 PM
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AKA ULTRA MAGA Gurl
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trolls, moles and shitposters. what has ECC become?
BAHHAHHAAHAHAHAAAAAAA
thank you valued troll!
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08-20-2019, 03:51 AM
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throughout the years, the common refrain, from both left and right, departing in tone alone, when in retrospective mood concerning some past wonderment now in the rear view mirror, is and has been,
"why was paul krugman so wrong?"
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08-20-2019, 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
The guy's got a Nobel Prize but appears incapable of independent thinking. All his positions are in lockstep with his party. This is a new low though -- most Republicans are racists and Trump has done more to promote racial violence than anyone since the founder of the Ku Klux Klan.
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This is the new direction the left has pivoted in...since Russia!! Russia!! fell flat...
Secretly recorded staff address from New York Crimes executive editor:
The mainstream media sure know a good idea when they hear one. And they heard an extraordinary one via a secretly recorded staff address from The New York Times’ executive editor Dean Baquet. He told his team that, although their two-year long focus on President Trump’s collusion with the Russians had been an incredible success, it was time for writers, as a group, to shift their attention.
Baquet explained to the newsroom staff:We built our newsroom to cover one story, and we did it truly well. Now we have to regroup and shift resources and emphasis to take on a different story.
That different story is race — and Trump. We’ve got to change. I mean, the vision for coverage for the next two years is what I talked about earlier: How do we cover a guy who makes these kinds of remarks? How do we cover the world’s reaction to him? How do we do that while continuing to cover his policies? How do we cover America, that’s become so divided by Donald Trump?
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08-20-2019, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Munchmasterman
A few things.
As a trumpy, you have yet to criticize any of his policies.
As a trumpy you go into attack mode whenever someone points out what a lying cocksucker trump is.
As a trumpy you exemplify little bb's statement (paraphrased)
"If you condone it you own it."
As usual you attack the person while putting the tiniest of scratches in the content.
Freshly back from a banning, you can't wait to make up for lost time.
Spew forth my frothy friend. Trumpys are starving for your fresh fake content.
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You as a leftwinger have criticized EVERY thing he has done...see how that works.
He has VERY solid ground to base it upon...don't let these FACT get in the way of you bullshit narrative MUNCHY!!
Here's some "fake" content for you.
You say something about a "lying cocksucker"??
From the New York Crimes executive editors own mouth:
The mainstream media sure know a good idea when they hear one. And they heard an extraordinary one via a secretly recorded staff address from The New York Times’ executive editor Dean Baquet. He told his team that, although their two-year long focus on President Trump’s collusion with the Russians had been an incredible success, it was time for writers, as a group, to shift their attention.
Baquet explained to the newsroom staff:We built our newsroom to cover one story, and we did it truly well. Now we have to regroup and shift resources and emphasis to take on a different story.
That different story is race — and Trump. We’ve got to change. I mean, the vision for coverage for the next two years is what I talked about earlier: How do we cover a guy who makes these kinds of remarks? How do we cover the world’s reaction to him? How do we do that while continuing to cover his policies? How do we cover America, that’s become so divided by Donald Trump?
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08-20-2019, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tiny
I've been as critical of Trump on some issues as anyone here. But did you read the column? The thesis is that the Republican Party is systematically enabling right wing terrorism. He doesn't quite say it, but Krugman appears to think Trump and Republicans would go on a genocidal rampage, like the Hutus who hacked the Tutsis to death in Rwanda, given half a chance. The article is over the top.
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For MUNCHY the more absurd the better...it is Trump you know the "TRUTH" be dammed!!
What was it that Uncle Joe said about choosing truth over facts??
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08-20-2019, 07:20 AM
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Given the alternatives offered up by the left,
I'll take ![Trumpet](https://cdn-w.eccie.net/images/smilies/modern/trumpet.gif) any day.
Krugman had his day as a serious economist. He's nothing but a political hack today.
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