Are you serious????

[LunarFae]

I would say give me her p411 name so I can get those sweet sweet p411points, but it'd be nicer to tell her so she has a chance to fix it before getting in trouble（●´∧｀●）

[oldbutstillgoing]

Originally Posted by LunarFae

From P411 notices:
07.08.2013 - Rate Discrepancies

Some of you are charging more on P411 than you are charging on other sites, which is against P411 policy and could result in the loss of your account.

Please always ensure that P411 clients are getting the best rate you offer, otherwise you will be considered to be charging P411 clients a premium, which is not permitted. Your P411 account is free and charging P411 clients more than clients who find you via other avenues is not an option. This is stated in the Terms & Conditions that you agreed to when signing up.

If you are charging more on P411 than elsewhere, please update your rates immediately.

If you are a provider who would like to earn some extra points, please direct us to providers who are charging P411 clients more than their other clients!

Thank you. I am getting old and memory is the second thing to go so good to know I remembered things correctly ;-)

[LunarFae]

Very relevant username.

Originally Posted by oldbutstillgoing

Thank you. I am getting old and memory is the second thing to go so good to know I remembered things correctly ;-)

[GinaXXX]

Originally Posted by LunarFae

From P411 notices:
07.08.2013 - Rate Discrepancies

Some of you are charging more on P411 than you are charging on other sites, which is against P411 policy and could result in the loss of your account.

Please always ensure that P411 clients are getting the best rate you offer, otherwise you will be considered to be charging P411 clients a premium, which is not permitted. Your P411 account is free and charging P411 clients more than clients who find you via other avenues is not an option. This is stated in the Terms & Conditions that you agreed to when signing up.

If you are charging more on P411 than elsewhere, please update your rates immediately.

If you are a provider who would like to earn some extra points, please direct us to providers who are charging P411 clients more than their other clients!

Exactly. Thanks for finding that info!

Always,
Gina

[Copierguy0]

Originally Posted by GingerKatt

However I have run across some clients who use different handles on Eccie and P411, so they can write mean, disrespectful reviews on Eccie I think, but a P411 provider doesn't do any screening under a handle that he doesn't make available to her. That's just as shady too. And if it's against the rules for a provider to have different rates on different websites, is it against the rules for a P411 client to not disclose his Eccie handle; or even have a separate handle on P411?

P411 handle is different than an ECCIE handle for these reasons:
A P411 Client Id consists of Your First Name, the Day you were Born, the First Letter of your Birth City and the last four digits of any ID. It is very important that you use your real information when creating your P411 Client ID, as it will be verified against identification carried in your wallet when you meet with a provider.

This is why it is safer for providers to see P411 clients
and provide the BEST rate possible on ANY site,
CG

[corona]

Which means the man's p411 ID contains identifiable real world info.

Is it considered outing if revealing a man's p411 id?

[angiesfan]

You should call it Trivaho.com

[oldbutstillgoing]

Originally Posted by corona

Which means the man's p411 ID contains identifiable real world info.

Is it considered outing if revealing a man's p411 id?

Well, P411 says to never give out your IP to anyone. Always use the message system in P411. I can see of no legit reasons for a provider to ever reveal a client's P411 ID. They can also use the message system in P411 to ask about your OK's etc.

While there is info about a client in his handle, it is not useable in any way to find his real identity. If someone can find you in RL using just the info in a P411 handle, they should go to work for the NSA. All the leaks would be over in a week.

As to GingerKat's question:
How would you enforce it or even know he has a non-P411 handle that does not match unless he tells you? There are many sites beside ECCIE out there.
What about someone who cannot use their non-p411 handle there because someone else already used it?
What about someone who was outted on ECCIE (like me) and does not want their old, existing P411 handle tied to their new ECCIE handle for security purposes?

What about providers who do not use the same handle on all the sites they advertise on?

Don't forget, its free for you to be on P411 but guys pay. We enjoy the safety of P411, the far easier screening, and assurance we are getting the best rate there.

Some guys do keep different handles for many reasons. And yes, sometimes they even leave reviews on ECCIE they do not want linked back to P411. Maybe its a legit bad review. Some provides will not see a client if he has any bad reviews. Or, I know of providers who will not see a client one he has seen someone they do not like. Lots of reasons

As long as you are screening carefully, following the rules, and give the best service you can, you rally don't have much to worry about do you?

[pmdelites]

why did you tell her you were on p411 to begin with?????

if you're gonna do so, do it during the screening process. but i dont know of any guideline or "rule" that says clients have to disclose their usernames on provider's directories or reviewing websites.



if this happened to me, i'd send a simple message to the provider and include the p411 text about pricing.
i'd wait a week or so and maybe inform gina & the p411 team about her.

[JLanister]

What? I thought the whole reason for joining p411 was so you didn't have to reveal RW information during screening. If the below is true, then wouldn't you have to show the provider your driver's license or some ID with RW info to verify your p411 member number?

"It is very important that you use your real information when creating your P411 Client ID, as it will be verified against identification carried in your wallet when you meet with a provider."

[GinaXXX]

As far as P411 is concerned, the provider would only need to match the first name and DAY of birth to the driver's licence. The last four digits can appear on anything carried in the wallet, library card, whatever.

All other identifying info can be covered for this purpose, the only intention is to show that the person in front of them is the true owner of the P411 account.

Always,
Gina

[Itrain]

Session was good she agree to keep the rate at the amount agreed. However she dod mention next time i would have to pay the p411 rate not the backpage/eccie... I thought for a provider was easier safer and overall better to,see someone from p411 with a good history and plenty oks

[corona]

Originally Posted by Itrain

Session was good she agree to keep the rate at the amount agreed. However she dod mention next time i would have to pay the p411 rate not the backpage/eccie... I thought for a provider was easier safer and overall better to,see someone from p411 with a good history and plenty oks

Time to report her to Gina. She was pretty clear that is a violation of P411 terms.

[L.A.]

Originally Posted by Itrain

Session was good she agree to keep the rate at the amount agreed. However she dod mention next time i would have to pay the p411 rate not the backpage/eccie... I thought for a provider was easier safer and overall better to,see someone from p411 with a good history and plenty oks

This is just bizarre behavior from her IMO. So next time you have to pay more because you have P411. WTF sense in any way, shape, or form does that make? NONE
That's just stupid AF.

L.A. is getting angry! "Serenity now, serenity now"

[JLanister]

S.O. - Hey honey why is there black tape over your name, address, and number on your driver's license.

Me - Gulp! Ummmm...